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Post by BradM on Oct 20, 2018 11:16:42 GMT -6
Hi all, We've been working on some fun new 500 series stuff and wanted to share it all with you all. I'm proud to announce MISTER FOCUS. MISTER FOCUS is a collection of affordable 500 series processors that can be customized using modular analog plugins (Colour modules) to create console-like channels aimed at no-fuss analog results during tracking and mixing. It’s available as a console channel (STAGE II), compressor (COMP), equalizer (EQ), and an a la carte version that can be user-configured (RGB) to create your dream channel for your unique needs. STAGE II – A colorful console channel to pair with your existing mic preamps to add organic analog mojo. Available in three different tonal flavors: British (powered by Royal Blue module), American (powered by Mass Drivr module), and Tube (powered by Pentode) amplifier stages. Our single-knob FOCUS EQ can be placed before or after this stage for effortless tone shaping pre or post saturation. The signal lastly passes through a versatile FILTER and multi-stage saturation section, powered by the Super Filter module, which can be toggled on or off. COMP – A two-knob compressor with character. The compression is classic 1176 FET limiting powered by our Implode module. Our single-knob FOCUS EQ can be placed before or after this stage for effortless tone shaping pre or post compression. The signal lastly passes through the MEGA stage powered by the Mass Drivr module. This features a discrete 2520 style op amp driving a beefy sounding output transformer, which can be toggled on or off. EQ – An EQ you won’t overthink. Available in two different functional variants: passive Pultec-style high shelf boost (powered by Rogue-Tec Air), or FET saturating EQ (powered by FET Filter). Our single-knob FOCUS EQ can be placed before or after this stage for effortless tone shaping pre or post saturation. The final signal passes through the SHEEN stage powered by the Royal Blue module. This features classic British transistor amplifiers driving a rich sounding output transformer. An optional treble presence boost can be enabled via jumper, and the entire SHEEN stage can be toggled on or off. RGB – a customizable platform for building your dream channel using analog plugins (Colour modules). The first slot has separate controls for Colour drive and wet/dry mix. Configure vintage-flavored line amps, compressors, EQs, or saturators. At the end of the signal chain a second analog plugin slot, TWO-TONE, allows you to add another shade of coloration for a layered analog patina. Add filters, HF boosts, or transformer-coupled output stages, all at the press of a button. MISTER FOCUS FEATURES AT A GLANCE
- Line level
- Two Analog Plugin slots
- Slot 1 Drive: -6 to +18 dB with constant gain
- Slot 1 Mix: blends dry and processed signal
- Slot 2: on/off
- Focus EQ
- Single knob EQ to balance bass and treble – Chop Shop heritage
- Internal jumpers to shift pivot frequency
- PRE switch moves Focus pre-Slot 1
- All circuit components were chosen by ear for maximum MOJO
MISTER FOCUS IN DETAIL
Mister Focus features three blocks of high-end analog processing. All four versions in the collection feature the same basic architecture and layout. STAGE II, COMP, and EQ are pre-configured with our favorite combinations of analog plugins. With RGB you configure the COLOUR and TWO-TONE blocks to build a custom signal path for your unique needs. The third block is our powerful single knob FOCUS EQ. CONFIGURE WITH ANALOG PLUGIN MODULES
While STAGE II, COMP, and EQ are set up with our favorite configurations, MISTER FOCUS – RGB is offered specifically as a blank canvas that allows you to configure its functionality and customize its sonic signature by installing analog plugins called Colour modules. A wide variety of fully assembled analog plugins affordably priced from $79 - $129 are available and are easily installed in the two Colour Module slots on MISTER FOCUS’s printed circuit board – no tools required. Just insert your favorite Colour Module into the slots, adjust the drive (C-DRV), and blend (C-MIX) the processing with the dry signal to taste. With EQ modules installed in MISTER FOCUS, the C-MIX knob varies the amount of boost and cut depending on the module. FOCUS EQ
The intuitive single-knob FOCUS EQ from the Chop Shop effortlessly balances the bass and treble energy of the sound. Apparent loudness is maintained constant for meaningful A/B comparisons. Internal SHIFT jumpers decrease turnover frequency for a different midrange response. The PRE switch allows FOCUS to be placed before or after the primary Colour slot for the most sonic flexibility. Louder Than Liftoff offers the following analog plugins for MISTER FOCUS: • Pentode - a subminiature tube saturator • Implode - the world’s smallest 1176 compressor • Pulse - a textured tape echo/delay • Rogue Tec Air - a Pultec HF shelving EQ • FET Filter - a FET buffered tone-shaper with low shelf, high pass, and mid EQ • Mass Drivr - a classic American channel inspired by a transformer/DOA Line Amplifier • Royal Blue - a vintage British channel with discrete transistor and transformer circuitry • Super Filter (NEW) – high and low pass filters with multi-stage saturation • Many other third party modules are also available from the DIY Recording Equipment store Other exciting new analog plugin modules from Louder Than Liftoff are also in development and will be announced in the future. APPLICATIONS: • Line amp with EQ • Saturation with tone shaping • Customizable tracking channel • Simple one-knob EQ • Mic preamp expander • Mix / 2-Bus mojo • Stem / Bus processing • Colour module host – add compression EQ, distortion, saturation, delay, etc. INTRODUCTORY PRICING:Mister Focus – RGB: $279 Mister Focus – STAGE II: starting at $419 Mister Focus – COMP: $449 Mister Focus – EQ: starting at $439 Starts shipping 10/22/18.
There is an additional introductory special on fully loaded RGB bundles through October 31st, and even greater savings for Void Corp members. Visit the MISTER FOCUS product pages for further info, documentation downloads and sound clips. Mister Focus - Louder Than Liftoff
Thanks for reading. Let me know if you have any questions. cheers, Brad Attachments:
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Post by M57 on Oct 20, 2018 13:53:51 GMT -6
Congrats! Beautiful looking units and lots of options.. Can you describe what the one knob EQ sounds like? What's the difference between one extreme and the other? How does one control how subtly the EQ is being applied? I see there's the ability to adjust the pivot frequency so perhaps there are only two curves - one to the left and other other to the right? ..and the knob controls the amount of EQ? Is it detented in the center?
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Post by BradM on Oct 20, 2018 14:11:51 GMT -6
Thank you. The Focus EQ is the same EQ I designed for the Chop Shop. I think the best way to describe what it does is to let it speak for itself. drbill helped me create some sound clips to demonstrate what it can do: store.louderthanliftoff.com/pages/mister-focus-sound-clipsCheck out the "Focus Only" tab. The drum and Rhodes examples are especially good at illustrating the tilting nature of its EQ curve. At one extreme the bass is dipped and the treble is lifted. At the other extreme, the bass is boosted, and the treble is attenuated. So you basically turn the FOCUS knob left or right. If you go to any of the product pages there is a section called "Focus EQ" that shows the curve in action as turn the knob (it's an animated GIF): store.louderthanliftoff.com/products/mister-focus-rgbThe knob is a 41 detent knob so every position has a detent. The Focus EQ has its own bypass switch so you can use it independently of the other features. One cool thing I didn't really touch on in my announcement is that one could use Mister Focus - RGB for the Focus EQ alone, regardless of if any analog plugins are installed or not. I hope that helps. Brad
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Post by mulmany on Oct 20, 2018 14:11:59 GMT -6
Congrats! Beautiful looking units and lots of options.. Can you describe what the one knob EQ sounds like? What's the difference between one extreme and the other? How does one control how subtly the EQ is being applied? I see there's the ability to adjust the pivot frequency so perhaps there are only two curves - one to the left and other other to the right? ..and the knob controls the amount of EQ? Is it detented in the center? If it is like the Chop Shop then it's a tilt EQ. Clock wise is more hi's/less bass, and counter clockwise it's more bass/less hi's. It's really fast and great for tracking and not causing issues that you will fight later at mix time.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 20, 2018 16:44:37 GMT -6
Will there be a power supply frame/sidecar for 500 series console in development? Did you come to any conclusions as to which 500 series powersupplies were the best to own?
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Post by jeromemason on Oct 20, 2018 18:46:24 GMT -6
Very cool Brad!
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Post by ericn on Oct 20, 2018 18:48:33 GMT -6
Brad great to see more kit that is anything but me too! You always impress my friend!
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 20, 2018 20:43:00 GMT -6
Very cool!
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Post by drbill on Oct 20, 2018 21:09:51 GMT -6
After being involved with Brad on this for a long while (been DYING to say something, but upon threat of death, I've held my thoughts....), and now having had them in my hands for a couple weeks now....
1. The "FOCUS" (tilt) feature is something I cannot live without when tracking. The unloaded RGB is a killer price for a rack full of these. The Focus is identical to the Chop Shop version of Focus which I love. I WILL have them on all my tracking inputs. But, I will almost certainly have them in :
2. Stage II. This is a game changer. At least for me. There are precious few mic pre's with the "second stage" of a console. (You know the suspects). And that second stage is what takes a sound that's 70-80% there right up to the edge. For everything else in my setup that's not dual stage, there will be a Stage II following those pre's in my rigs. The choice of 3 classic console second stages - API, Neve, Tube, along with a versatile HPF/LPF with a resonant HPF (!!!!!!!!!)_ hellz yeah!! k i l l e r !!!!, the vintage filter from the SB, and a sweet saturation circuit. Along with the Focus EQ. This thing is off the hook.
3. The ability to "blend" in all the FX with C-Mix circuit. The options are just astounding when you consider all the DIYRE analog plugins for this thing.
4. The EQ and Comp versions are quite nice, but I've found myself paradoxically consumed with the RGB version - popping all kinds of transformers and tubes and saturators into the circuitry.
5. On E.Bass, I'll be rocking an 1176 version into the API mass drivr (always loved API on bass) as standard fare here. Sweet, and you can put as much hair on it as you like.
There's tons of clips up on the LTL site. What else is there to say. Happy to comment on my uses if anyone has any questions.
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 20, 2018 23:09:38 GMT -6
Not to belittle Brads great work, but what is the difference other that the built in tilt eq and just a regular DIYRE Color?? I mean, you can blend stuff a bit different but still. Seems like just a color module with tilt EQ? Or am I missing something?
Please help me find the reason to buy these!
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Post by iamasound on Oct 21, 2018 0:25:44 GMT -6
I don't know if it was mentioned anywhere else, but Voting is now Open for the 2019 annual SOS Awards and drBill's Stereo Tone-Amp Silver Bullet is vying for an award. Why don't you visit the site and vote early and often (you only get one vote...just sayin'). You do need to be on the mailing list to participate, and I having a sneaking suspicion that MLK might have had something like this in mind when he said, "Every step toward the goal requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals. Martin Luther King, Jr...well, maybe not.
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Post by BradM on Oct 22, 2018 12:13:10 GMT -6
Not to belittle Brads great work, but what is the difference other that the built in tilt eq and just a regular DIYRE Color?? I mean, you can blend stuff a bit different but still. Seems like just a color module with tilt EQ? Or am I missing something? Please help me find the reason to buy these! Hi, These are excellent questions. I'm glad you asked them. While Mister Focus (and Chroma) does use the Colour format to allow expansion and customization via the analog plugin slots, these are high end implementations with both audio quality and workflow driving the design. The Drive and Mix circuits were carefully designed from the ground up to offer not only top-notch sonics, but also to yield a user experience that feels good and keeps the user focused on the music. I'll elaborate on that a little bit if you don't mind me going into some technical details. The Drive knob in the DIYRE Palette simultaneously increases input gain and attenuates output. However, it does it symmetrically meaning that when you push level into something that saturates or compresses you actually experience a decrease in level. The Drive circuit in Mister Focus (and Chroma) is asymmetric. Its response feels more natural and doesn't require contant trimming. The RMS level increases slightly, even though the peaks are shaved, clipped, or compressed. For compressors there is an internal mode that defeats the post-Colour attentuation so that you aren't compressing and then attenuating further. This allows for a very intuitve one-knob compressor experience. If that "Boost" mode is enabled for non-compressor modules then you get some gain-staging flexibility which can be really useful. Mister Focus offers a Mix control which blends the wet and dry signal without a change in signal level (many mix controls don't do this well). The Colour Palette does not offer this feature. Everyone understands a wet/dry mix control when you think of parallel compression. But the beauty of this feature is that it allows EQ modules to effectively function like a variable EQ gain knob on an equalizer. Turn up the knob and you get more boost/cut. The Focus EQ is taken from the Chop Shop and is so easy to use. It's stupidly powerful for just one knob. If EQ during tracking scares you, Focus will give you confidence. It's almost impossible to make it sound bad. I've included a switch that allows the user to move the Focus EQ ahead of the first plugin slot...in the same way that an SSL console allows you to swap the order of the EQ and channel compressor. Sometimes this has a subtle effect on the result and other times it's really obvious. EQ'ing into saturation, distortion, or compression can emphasize the parts of the signal you are trying to affect in a creative way. For instance, by tilting the frequency response to be brighter before hitting a compressor, you can make the compression more sensitive to the high frequencies, and less sensitive to the lower frequencies. This has a completely different sound than turning up the treble after you compress a signal. So that one switch gives you a ton a flexibility. The whole Mister Focus family was designed for results. It's designed to be used quickly without agonizing over frequencies, Q's, ratios, attacks, etc. These are boxes that give you great tone without you needing a degree in "tone-ologoy". If you had a lunchbox full of them plugged into a DAW, I'd wager it would sound way cooler and be more flexible (on both the front and back end) than most consoles at that same price, or any summing box on the market. A Mister Focus user just sent this un-scientific audio comparison to me the other day. He used a STAGE II (Mass Drivr + Super Filter) on electric guitar bus and compared that to the best results he was able to get using the same modules in the Palette Mk2. The settings were: DIYRE - Mass Driver = 11 o’clock, Super Filter = 9 o’clock Mister Focus STAGE II - Mass Driver -> DRV = 1 o’clock, MIX - 50% The Focus EQ was not used and the PRE-STAGE II switch was out by the way. I was assured the processed guitars were RMS-level matched before they went back in the mix. I think it's obvious that Mister Focus gives a different result. Mister Focus -> drive.google.com/file/d/1dFtXpmYlBp36Ytx9097YMoWcLMiYgK_E/view?usp=sharingDIYRE Mk2 Color Pallete -> drive.google.com/file/d/1yrkwMtMZJDPQ98s52ABEGsl7VTGYflBc/view?usp=sharingI hope that helps. thanks, Brad
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 22, 2018 17:06:48 GMT -6
Not to belittle Brads great work, but what is the difference other that the built in tilt eq and just a regular DIYRE Color?? I mean, you can blend stuff a bit different but still. Seems like just a color module with tilt EQ? Or am I missing something? Please help me find the reason to buy these! Hi, These are excellent questions. I'm glad you asked them. While Mister Focus (and Chroma) does use the Colour format to allow expansion and customization via the analog plugin slots, these are high end implementations with both audio quality and workflow driving the design. The Drive and Mix circuits were carefully designed from the ground up to offer not only top-notch sonics, but also to yield a user experience that feels good and keeps the user focused on the music. I'll elaborate on that a little bit if you don't mind me going into some technical details. The Drive knob in the DIYRE Palette simultaneously increases input gain and attenuates output. However, it does it symmetrically meaning that when you push level into something that saturates or compresses you actually experience a decrease in level. The Drive circuit in Mister Focus (and Chroma) is asymmetric. Its response feels more natural and doesn't require contant trimming. The RMS level increases slightly, even though the peaks are shaved, clipped, or compressed. For compressors there is an internal mode that defeats the post-Colour attentuation so that you aren't compressing and then attenuating further. This allows for a very intuitve one-knob compressor experience. If that "Boost" mode is enabled for non-compressor modules then you get some gain-staging flexibility which can be really useful. Mister Focus offers a Mix control which blends the wet and dry signal without a change in signal level (many mix controls don't do this well). The Colour Palette does not offer this feature. Everyone understands a wet/dry mix control when you think of parallel compression. But the beauty of this feature is that it allows EQ modules to effectively function like a variable EQ gain knob on an equalizer. Turn up the knob and you get more boost/cut. The Focus EQ is taken from the Chop Shop and is so easy to use. It's stupidly powerful for just one knob. If EQ during tracking scares you, Focus will give you confidence. It's almost impossible to make it sound bad. I've included a switch that allows the user to move the Focus EQ ahead of the first plugin slot...in the same way that an SSL console allows you to swap the order of the EQ and channel compressor. Sometimes this has a subtle effect on the result and other times it's really obvious. EQ'ing into saturation, distortion, or compression can emphasize the parts of the signal you are trying to affect in a creative way. For instance, by tilting the frequency response to be brighter before hitting a compressor, you can make the compression more sensitive to the high frequencies, and less sensitive to the lower frequencies. This has a completely different sound than turning up the treble after you compress a signal. So that one switch gives you a ton a flexibility. The whole Mister Focus family was designed for results. It's designed to be used quickly without agonizing over frequencies, Q's, ratios, attacks, etc. These are boxes that give you great tone without you needing a degree in "tone-ologoy". If you had a lunchbox full of them plugged into a DAW, I'd wager it would sound way cooler and be more flexible (on both the front and back end) than most consoles at that same price, or any summing box on the market. A Mister Focus user just sent this un-scientific audio comparison to me the other day. He used a STAGE II (Mass Drivr + Super Filter) on electric guitar bus and compared that to the best results he was able to get using the same modules in the Palette Mk2. The settings were: DIYRE - Mass Driver = 11 o’clock, Super Filter = 9 o’clock Mister Focus STAGE II - Mass Driver -> DRV = 1 o’clock, MIX - 50% The Focus EQ was not used and the PRE-STAGE II switch was out by the way. I was assured the processed guitars were RMS-level matched before they went back in the mix. I think it's obvious that Mister Focus gives a different result. Mister Focus -> drive.google.com/file/d/1dFtXpmYlBp36Ytx9097YMoWcLMiYgK_E/view?usp=sharingDIYRE Mk2 Color Pallete -> drive.google.com/file/d/1yrkwMtMZJDPQ98s52ABEGsl7VTGYflBc/view?usp=sharingI hope that helps. thanks, Brad Great reply! Thanks Brad. I love your ChopShops so I knew there had to be something speacial about these things to merit and full lineup by you vs the Color Palette. Just wasn't super obvious to me. Sounds very cool to me. More things to buy from you! Currently saving for a SilverBullet first though..
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Post by BradM on Oct 22, 2018 17:24:53 GMT -6
Great reply! Thanks Brad. I love your ChopShops so I knew there had to be something speacial about these things to merit and full lineup by you vs the Color Palette. Just wasn't super obvious to me. Sounds very cool to me. More things to buy from you! Currently saving for a SilverBullet first though.. Hi, Glad I could help clarify. If there's anything you think I'm missing on the website that would help others, let me know and I'll try to add it. I definitely want it to be obvious for folks. Thanks for being a Chop Shop fan! I only have 2 Silver Bullets left right now... new run is in the works! Will there be a power supply frame/sidecar for 500 series console in development? Did you come to any conclusions as to which 500 series powersupplies were the best to own? I apologize for missing this question earlier. Another good one. I can't comment on what's currently in development, but I would like to offer a 500 series rack at some point that delivers excellent sonics at a good price...along with some features nobody else seems to be offering. I always have exciting things brewing though. And of course want everyone to check out Mister Focus! 500 series rack short list: BAE Heritage Audio Purple Audio API 8-sp Lunchbox thanks, Brad
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 22, 2018 17:52:06 GMT -6
Great reply! Thanks Brad. I love your ChopShops so I knew there had to be something speacial about these things to merit and full lineup by you vs the Color Palette. Just wasn't super obvious to me. Sounds very cool to me. More things to buy from you! Currently saving for a SilverBullet first though.. Hi, Glad I could help clarify. If there's anything you think I'm missing on the website that would help others, let me know and I'll try to add it. I definitely want it to be obvious for folks. Thanks for being a Chop Shop fan! I only have 2 Silver Bullets left right now... new run is in the works! Will there be a power supply frame/sidecar for 500 series console in development? Did you come to any conclusions as to which 500 series powersupplies were the best to own? I apologize for missing this question earlier. Another good one. I can't comment on what's currently in development, but I would like to offer a 500 series rack at some point that delivers excellent sonics at a good price...along with some features nobody else seems to be offering. I always have exciting things brewing though. And of course want everyone to check out Mister Focus! 500 series rack short list: BAE Heritage Audio Purple Audio API 8-sp Lunchbox thanks, Brad Did you forget to mention Rupert Neve Designs R10, or did that not make the list because you didn’t get around to checking it out? Thanks Brad
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Post by BradM on Oct 22, 2018 18:02:23 GMT -6
Did you forget to mention Rupert Neve Designs R10, or did that not make the list because you didn’t get around to checking it out? Thanks Brad Nope, I didn't forget to mention it. I recommend the other racks. Brad
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 22, 2018 18:22:07 GMT -6
Great reply! Thanks Brad. I love your ChopShops so I knew there had to be something speacial about these things to merit and full lineup by you vs the Color Palette. Just wasn't super obvious to me. Sounds very cool to me. More things to buy from you! Currently saving for a SilverBullet first though.. Hi, Glad I could help clarify. If there's anything you think I'm missing on the website that would help others, let me know and I'll try to add it. I definitely want it to be obvious for folks. Thanks for being a Chop Shop fan! I only have 2 Silver Bullets left right now... new run is in the works! GAAAHHH! Terrible timing. I just found the converters I want for a steal of a deal. Unless the deal falls though..then Ill snap up maybe the last one! Super fan of the Chops. Need a couple more..
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Post by BradM on Oct 22, 2018 18:23:40 GMT -6
Don't forget to register for a store account if you haven't already done so. Then you can redeem points from the SB purchase to score a discount on more Chop Shops or Mister Focus. I have more units on the way so even if the timing doesn't work out there will be more soon.
Brad
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 22, 2018 18:42:48 GMT -6
Don't forget to register for a store account if you haven't already done so. Then you can redeem points from the SB purchase to score a discount on more Chop Shops or Mister Focus. I have more units on the way so even if the timing doesn't work out there will be more soon. Brad I think i am. I had a Voidcorp card too but it didn't seem to work when I signed up. Never have gotten an email anyways. But I will register if Im not! I know I have a review up on there for the Chops too. Store credit is always nice though!
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Post by BradM on Oct 26, 2018 11:53:23 GMT -6
Hey John, What do you think? Should we give RGO members a special limited time "discovery" discount? Everyone - I'm thinking of doing a Mister Focus Gear With Friends where we pass along the gear like we did with the Chop Shop so that people can check out the unit. Would folks be interested in that? That Chop Shop unit disappeared so we might have to change the rules a bit, but I still like the concept of a "gear chain letter". Thoughts? Brad
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 26, 2018 12:35:06 GMT -6
Hey John, What do you think? Should we give RGO members a special limited time "discovery" discount? Everyone - I'm thinking of doing a Mister Focus Gear With Friends where we pass along the gear like we did with the Chop Shop so that people can check out the unit. Would folks be interested in that? That Chop Shop unit disappeared so we might have to change the rules a bit, but I still like the concept of a "gear chain letter". Thoughts? Brad Always thought that the chop shop idea was cool. I didn't participate but thought it was sweet. Sorry to hear it disappeared though. Thats a bummer.
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Post by pope on Oct 26, 2018 12:40:37 GMT -6
"That Chop Shop unit disappeared so we might have to change the rules a bit"
Don't tell me that it was that musictoolbox (or something like that) guy again?
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Post by BradM on Oct 26, 2018 14:21:15 GMT -6
"That Chop Shop unit disappeared so we might have to change the rules a bit"Don't tell me that it was that musictoolbox (or something like that) guy again? I'm not sure who last had it at this point, but I'm offering full amnesty to anyone that returns it. Perhaps this go around Johnkenn can ban anyone that makes off with the gear? Anyway, I'm open to trying it again. Brad
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Post by drbill on Oct 26, 2018 14:21:26 GMT -6
I think allowing people to experience the Focus EQ in Mr Focus (and chop shop) is a great idea. Lots of love for that killer one knob EQ here. And getting a handle on the musicality of the analog plugins is hard to grasp without having them in your possession. You can get more complex EQ's for the price, but I don't think you can touch the mojo and the musicality of these offerings for anywhere near the $$$.
Maybe instead of a "chain" Brad, you should make it a "star". The units come back to you every time. That would make things a lot more up and up and keeping track of who's got what, and how long it's been out would be much easier. More of a hassle for you (Brad) though.
PS - I'm loving the "Pre-C" routing switch so much. Putting the Focus EQ in front of the colour plugins really changes things up. You can get things more colored with it up front I think, or retain definition and clarity keeping it in the stock position. Really makes the unit much more versatile in terms of "how much" is enough and "how much" is too much. Quite nice.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 26, 2018 17:16:04 GMT -6
Holy crap, was it someone from here that did that? Absolutely, full ban. We need to have more open communication as to who has it and for how long.
Yes, Brad! That would be awesome!
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