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Post by Quint on Oct 2, 2018 22:00:18 GMT -6
The LA 500 is more than usable. It's not the same wooly type comp as the la2a. It's faster and perhaps cleaner. I've got both and I love my la 500 on any source. Great on vocals. I guess the question I would have is which is more useable/versatile in more tracking situations? LA500a versus 1176 + La2a. Ever done an 1176 + La500a? Just curious. Is the 1176 redundant in a vocal tracking situation with the La500a (is the La500a already quick enough to take care of 1176 duties?)?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 3, 2018 5:21:16 GMT -6
The LA 500 is more than usable. It's not the same wooly type comp as the la2a. It's faster and perhaps cleaner. I've got both and I love my la 500 on any source. Great on vocals. I guess the question I would have is which is more useable/versatile in more tracking situations? LA500a versus 1176 + La2a. Ever done an 1176 + La500a? Just curious. Is the 1176 redundant in a vocal tracking situation with the La500a (is the La500a already quick enough to take care of 1176 duties?)? I think it is as fast. Similar sound. Perhaps a little cleaner when pushed. I use both the 500 and an opto comp in series regularly with a great result. It's also good for tracking just shaving peaks. Hardly know it's there.
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Post by drbill on Oct 3, 2018 9:52:01 GMT -6
Quint - to each his own, but I'd never use an 1176, and LA2a together during tracking. Too much room for error IMO. During mix, sure. Absolutely. I agree with Cowboy in his assessment of the LA500a being "cleaner".
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Post by Quint on Oct 3, 2018 11:41:08 GMT -6
Quint - to each his own, but I'd never use an 1176, and LA2a together during tracking. Too much room for error IMO. During mix, sure. Absolutely. I agree with Cowboy in his assessment of the LA500a being "cleaner". Honestly, I've never tried the 1176 la2a combo during tracking either and have been a little on the fence about the added opportunity to screw things up during tracking. Still, I was kicking around giving it a shot. We're I to go that route, I would want a comp(s) that I could park on vocals and leave there. The descriptions you guys are providing on the La500a sound like exactly what I'm looking for, to be perfectly honest. Cleaner is fine and likely preferable. It's the action I care about more than tone. I didn't realize that the La500a could go as fast as an 1176. That changes things a bit and definitely makes me lean towards just picking up a La500a.
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Post by drbill on Oct 3, 2018 12:26:37 GMT -6
I don't think the LA500a is as fast as an 1176, but I could be wrong.
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Post by Quint on Oct 3, 2018 12:50:26 GMT -6
I don't think the LA500a is as fast as an 1176, but I could be wrong. I thought I understood Cowboy to say that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
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Post by wiz on Oct 3, 2018 15:48:36 GMT -6
I wouldn’t think the la500 is as fast as my 76s....
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 3, 2018 16:18:07 GMT -6
Quint - to each his own, but I'd never use an 1176, and LA2a together during tracking. Too much room for error IMO. During mix, sure. Absolutely. I agree with Cowboy in his assessment of the LA500a being "cleaner". This is a good point to the thread here and I agree. Shaving is the key to a tracking comp. I'd never try to get the dynamics right on the way in. Series compression isbest suited for mixing IMO because we can always make adjustments to each part of the chain which affects the rest. Can't do that in the print stage.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 3, 2018 16:22:30 GMT -6
Well boys, I've not put the clock on them and you may be right lol. (A little humor there). But I honestly find them similar in their action, sound not so much. And I could be wrong on that.
On a side note, It's a relatively easy build. I'm no soldering iron expert by a long shot but I built my comps pretty easy and without issue.
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Post by Quint on Oct 3, 2018 18:14:16 GMT -6
From the following thread: www.jlmaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=262&start=120Joe Malone said the following: "HI Udo Sorry had missed this. It is to hard to explain the constantly moving attack and release times. And the slow attack also varies with ratio and opto moving times. Other than to say they work better than any normal preset attack and release ever." So that's a bit inconclusive. It still would be nice to know just how fast you can make it go at its fastest settings, whatever that may be. It's certainly fast enough that people were requesting what eventually became the slow attack mod and then finally the 500"a". More importantly, I guess it still sounds like it's fast enough to catch those sudden screams, even if it may or may not be quite as fast as an 1176?
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