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UAD X
Sept 2, 2018 20:37:53 GMT -6
Post by Mister Chase on Sept 2, 2018 20:37:53 GMT -6
I read up on FPGA once as it is in the new Lynx Aurora (n) converters. Interesting stuff.
I have seen no UAD X teaser. So this thread is a teaser-teaser.
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Post by yotonic on Sept 2, 2018 20:41:28 GMT -6
So, FPGA better for big jobs, DSP better for small. UAD's tasks are getting bigger, so change to FPGA is probable. Now someone tell me what the heck FPGA stands for. Field-programmable gate array A field-programmable gate array is an integrated circuit designed to be configured by a customer or a designer after manufacturing – hence "field-programmable". So your gear really can be future proofed as vs marketing BS. Updates and new firmware installed as the marketplace responds to new tech.
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UAD X
Sept 2, 2018 20:47:55 GMT -6
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Post by christopher on Sept 2, 2018 20:47:55 GMT -6
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UAD X
Sept 2, 2018 20:49:59 GMT -6
Post by wiz on Sept 2, 2018 20:49:59 GMT -6
Field programmable Gate array
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 1:06:24 GMT -6
Post by the other mark williams on Sept 3, 2018 1:06:24 GMT -6
The Antelope boxes use FPGA over DSP. And so does the new Metric Halo 3D update. So it does seem to be becoming a thing.
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Post by Quint on Sept 3, 2018 10:39:12 GMT -6
Exactly. There are quite a few boxes using it these days, so I don't think it's far fetched at all to think that UAD may go that route as well if there are legitimate advantages of current FPGAs over DSPs like the Sharc. I'm not saying there are or aren't advantages to be had by going FPGA. I honestly have no idea.
The biggest hurdle would probably be to recode everything to work on FPGAs, which also would potentially create some additional headaches, as backward compatibility would still need to be maintained for all the Sharc based boxes already out there. Other companies like Avid code for more than one type of plugin architecture (DSP and native) though, so it's not like it's unachievable.
Either way, it's time for UAD to up their game on processing power, so I'm curious to see what they eventually come out with. Hopefully X will be IT.
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Post by spindrift on Sept 3, 2018 11:04:20 GMT -6
Maybe you’ll get to buy a whole new FPGA plug package!
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Post by bigbone on Sept 3, 2018 11:49:09 GMT -6
Monthly subscription..... 100$ a month to be part of the UA cult follower ..... .
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Sept 3, 2018 12:15:03 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 3, 2018 12:15:03 GMT -6
UA asked about a subscription plan in its annual survey about 2-3 years ago. I think it got an earful as I don’t think it asked again, but who knows?
The formal X announcement is supposed to be soon: will be interesting to know what it really entails .
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 12:27:38 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 3, 2018 12:27:38 GMT -6
This is gonna go one way or the other. Not much middle ground.
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 13:10:49 GMT -6
Post by spindrift on Sept 3, 2018 13:10:49 GMT -6
I’m betting subscription....it’s inevitable. Look at Slate. I’ve held off on UAD for 3-4 years because I always felt something new was right around the corner, I mean their latest UAD2 hardware is what, over a decade old?!
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Post by veggieryan on Sept 3, 2018 15:02:10 GMT -6
AXE-FX III dropped sharcs in favor of "Two 1.0 GHz, floating-point “Keystone” Digital Signal Processors (DSPs)" .... just look at the performance difference. 6-7x the power. I sold my Apollos a while ago in total frustration not being able to run any reasonable number of plugins at 96khz. UAD better get their act together. Not many would want to rent plugins on a platform incapable of actually running them. Seems like a no brainer to me. Sell a platform with more DSP power and you will sell far more plugins. from: www.fractalaudio.com/iii/
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 15:22:35 GMT -6
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Post by guitfiddler on Sept 3, 2018 15:22:35 GMT -6
The next UA interface w/ integrated controller(possibly)needs to be competitively priced if they want to take more of the market share. And I agree that it will go one way or the other expensive way. I received another email with a voucher for $200 off their UAD 6 all plugins deal at $1299. Sorry UA, but I just might need to keep that money to see which way you are going to go. It would be a very good move to give all their plugs if buying the new interface, that would be a very good incentive. Look at Antelope for ex. They develop plugs that you don’t have to pay for just for buying an Antelope interface. If UA can still sell plugs then I’m sure they aren’t going to move on their cash cow, however even with Waves and their $29 dollar deals, and it seems endless weekly deals of 20-30% off if you buy more than 1-2 plugins additional. These are tough deals to compete with. It will be interesting to see what UA does.
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 15:34:42 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Sept 3, 2018 15:34:42 GMT -6
Don’t they typically announce new hardware at NAMM?
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Sept 3, 2018 15:56:18 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 3, 2018 15:56:18 GMT -6
Yes.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 3, 2018 16:08:01 GMT -6
They should Ditch the need for the hardware all together and just have a dongle. I do a lot of remote mixing and am not interested in carrying a satellite. I bet there are a million producers out there with the same view.
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Sept 3, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 3, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -6
Maybe they’ll go cloud but going native would be a huge change ?
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Post by ragan on Sept 3, 2018 16:15:28 GMT -6
I agree that it seems UA is at a turning point. I'll be interested to see what they've got cooking. Seems to me like there's a huge group of people who would go UAD if not for one or two things, the external DSP being chief among them.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 3, 2018 16:18:46 GMT -6
They should Ditch the need for the hardware all together and just have a dongle. I do a lot of remote mixing and am not interested in carrying a satellite. I bet there are a million producers out there with the same view. Absolutely
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UAD X
Sept 3, 2018 19:48:43 GMT -6
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 3, 2018 19:48:43 GMT -6
I'm betting they do new hardware. They've had to have made a ton on the uad 2. As many nay-sayers are out there, plenty still buy. With their measly little 25 dollar coupons they try to dangle in front of me for $300 dollar plugins... I have come to realize how they do things. That's fine.
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Sept 4, 2018 1:34:01 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 4, 2018 1:34:01 GMT -6
Ah, no offence, but referencing $300 plug ins, low value coupons and expensive satalite is somewhat misleading as over the last few years UA has aggressively discounted all these things, gave away satalite for free, had all kinds of sales and regularly given away all kinds of coupons, repeatedly.
It has also significantly discounted its Ultimate package: all UA plug ins and at the same time discounted satalite.
Only the impatient pays full pop and that’s a choice they make: you have options.
So, the UA culture and business model has been evolving. It will be interesting to see what this next step is and how major a change it is.
As I think you all know, I sold all my UA stuff wanting to free up my investment out of concerns for the negative impact of the possible introduction of a subscription model, the inability to sell individual plug ins, wanting a more native system and a better interface.
All that being said, there are still things I like about UA, the plug in quality and I am curious what apollo mkiii and X will feature.
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Sept 4, 2018 1:38:45 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 4, 2018 1:38:45 GMT -6
Here’s an interesting take from UA forum:
“Originally Posted by Matt Hepworth View Post How about we keep posting on what we hope it IS, rather than what we hope it ISN'T. OK, I'll try.....
UAD-X is the new UAD hardware and software architecture, version X (ten). UAD-X will include a new range of dual-core Sharc DSP chips which allow each input to X(cross) multiple cores and chips. So an input is no longer constrained by a single core or chip. UAD-X firmware and software will make old UAD 2 devices compatible with the new UAD-X architecture, allowing you to pile plug-ins onto a single channel, across multiple chips. (This will work well on Apollo Twin MKii Quads in particular). New UAD-X hardware will include the Apollo 8X which has 8 mic pres and 8 dual-core Sharc DSPs allowing almost unlimited plug-ins on each channel. UAD-X will include re-writes of some of the old favourite UAD plugins - (1176 Mk3 bundle, LA2A Mk3 bundle) as well as "insert the emulation you've been asking for, for the last 5 years" and other great new plug-ins. All 9.x UAD plug-ins will be backwardly compatible with UAD-X (except "insert random 3rd party plug-in, which was coded strangely and won't work) and (a couple more that turn out not to work in the real world). UAD-X will include a complete re-imagining of the 'Nigel' plug-in, re-coded to take advantage of (i.e. use up loads of) the new DSP dual-core power. UAD-X will include Console-X with real strip re-naming. UAD-X will be on the streets from X/X (10th October). Speak with your UAD dealer now, and they will not know anything more about it.
Dominic“
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Sept 4, 2018 5:00:31 GMT -6
Post by kcatthedog on Sept 4, 2018 5:00:31 GMT -6
According to a FB exchange with Drew, subscriptions are not in the X deal.
A wise move I would say.
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Sept 4, 2018 6:03:45 GMT -6
Post by kcatthedog on Sept 4, 2018 6:03:45 GMT -6
From Drew at UA Forum:
"I’ll say three things.
It’s the letter X No subs Days."
So,I guess the announcement will be this week: maybe Friday so CS doesn't get killed with info requests
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Post by guitfiddler on Sept 4, 2018 6:06:34 GMT -6
Universal Audio is bringing to the market, drum roll please...A UAD monitoring system, 3-way 10" woofers that work X-clusively with the Apollo monitoring interface for ruler flat, laser precision monitoring, and a voucher for a plugin that can make your system sound beautiful in any room!!!! X-marks-the-spot feature that tells you where to point your speakers for optimal room driver energy and functionality. The X-sub is currently being developed. TaaDaaa!
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