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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2019 23:50:07 GMT -6
I had to return the first 16A I bought.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 2, 2019 7:11:54 GMT -6
How old is the triplite and furman? I’d have them checked.
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 2, 2019 8:18:16 GMT -6
How old is the triplite and furman? I’d have them checked. How would I go about checking these. I'm not sure I've ever checked a power conditioner.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 2, 2019 9:45:46 GMT -6
How old is the triplite and furman? I’d have them checked. How would I go about checking these. I'm not sure I've ever checked a power conditioner. Measure the voltage coming out of it with nothing plugged into it, and also with your normal load. If you have the ability to measure power line distortion or look at it's waveform (oscilloscope, Audio Precision test set, etc), that could tell if something is odd and straining your equipment.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 2, 2019 10:41:12 GMT -6
How old is the triplite and furman? I’d have them checked. How would I go about checking these. I'm not sure I've ever checked a power conditioner. That’s what I was going to suggest. Have you tried plugging the Motu into a regular wall outlet? Seems silly, but maybe your Motu is fine but your Furman is not? Optimistic thinking.
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 2, 2019 10:47:30 GMT -6
How would I go about checking these. I'm not sure I've ever checked a power conditioner. That’s what I was going to suggest. Have you tried plugging the Motu into a regular wall outlet? Seems silly, but maybe your Motu is fine but your Furman is not? Optimistic thinking. I will try this. (K.I.S.S.) what perplexes me is that I have had failure on separate units plugged into separate Furman’s. One thing I will say is MOTU has provided outstanding service and tech support through this process.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 2, 2019 11:36:41 GMT -6
I had to return the first 16A I bought. Well you're in town and I know you, so you're the first lol.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2019 12:11:36 GMT -6
I had to return the first 16A I bought. Well you're in town and I know you, so you're the first lol. So do I qualify for a “player in the game?”
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 2, 2019 12:31:47 GMT -6
Well you're in town and I know you, so you're the first lol. So do I qualify for a “player in the game?” Lol well, I would say only if you're on Allmusic.com....... But we sure know it certainly doesn't reflect what you're doing! Of course you are, c'mon man, Leann Rimes and Faith freaking Hill are singing your lyrics, you know you're a player, playa!
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Post by svart on Jan 2, 2019 12:33:55 GMT -6
That’s what I was going to suggest. Have you tried plugging the Motu into a regular wall outlet? Seems silly, but maybe your Motu is fine but your Furman is not? Optimistic thinking. I will try this. (K.I.S.S.) what perplexes me is that I have had failure on separate units plugged into separate Furman’s. One thing I will say is MOTU has provided outstanding service and tech support through this process. Do they provide a root-cause for the failure when they send the unit back? I'm sure they just swap out the whole power supplies without actually troubleshooting to component level, but maybe they could tell you something more.. Do you power down the whole rack at one time, like on a single switch? I wonder if you're getting some kind of inductive kickback from all the supplies collapsing at one time and it's killing the MOTU stuff. I'm sure MOTU probably uses the same supply for all their gear, so it's not unlikely that all their gear would fail in the same way in your system. I'm going to be honest here, I think power conditioners are snakeoil. The cheap ones are usually nothing more than filters and protection that you find in ordinary power strips anyway.
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Post by bigbone on Jan 2, 2019 12:50:36 GMT -6
Svart
Can you recommend a reliable Power Conditioners ?
Thank you.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2019 14:02:04 GMT -6
So do I qualify for a “player in the game?” Lol well, I would say only if you're on Allmusic.com....... But we sure know it certainly doesn't reflect what you're doing! Of course you are, c'mon man, Leann Rimes and Faith freaking Hill are singing your lyrics, you know you're a player, playa! I have one listing on all music. Sent in a discography probably 3 times and get nowhere. No idea how and why some sows up and some doesn’t.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2019 14:04:14 GMT -6
I will try this. (K.I.S.S.) what perplexes me is that I have had failure on separate units plugged into separate Furman’s. One thing I will say is MOTU has provided outstanding service and tech support through this process. Do they provide a root-cause for the failure when they send the unit back? I'm sure they just swap out the whole power supplies without actually troubleshooting to component level, but maybe they could tell you something more.. Do you power down the whole rack at one time, like on a single switch? I wonder if you're getting some kind of inductive kickback from all the supplies collapsing at one time and it's killing the MOTU stuff. I'm sure MOTU probably uses the same supply for all their gear, so it's not unlikely that all their gear would fail in the same way in your system. I'm going to be honest here, I think power conditioners are snakeoil. The cheap ones are usually nothing more than filters and protection that you find in ordinary power strips anyway. I basically just use them because they have a bunch of different plugs
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 2, 2019 14:05:44 GMT -6
Lol well, I would say only if you're on Allmusic.com....... But we sure know it certainly doesn't reflect what you're doing! Of course you are, c'mon man, Leann Rimes and Faith freaking Hill are singing your lyrics, you know you're a player, playa! I have one listing on all music. Sent in a discography probably 3 times and get nowhere. No idea how and why some sows up and some doesn’t. Me too!!! What the hell is wrong with these people man. You work your ass off for them and tell them "hey, can you make sure to get the credits in" annndddd I even give them the Tivo website and phone number etc. to send all that in and they never do it. And all the record labels now (besides 30 Tigers, which kicks ass!) only put the freaking performer/artist! Derek Wells was telling me a while back that he was really digging into getting us all credited and making it like a law, but I don't know where that's got since then.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2019 14:12:43 GMT -6
I have a friend that said he had contact info for someone high up and they would get it straight...but I haven’t even bothered. My credits (up until llike early 2017) are on my site so if people are interested enough, they can see it there.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 2, 2019 14:14:52 GMT -6
Yeah, but I know when I hear something I like I go to Allmusic.com and try to find who worked on it, so it could potentially be getting us a lot more work. And most of the time, like I said, I can never find who mixed something, it's retarded.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 2, 2019 14:53:52 GMT -6
I've sent a few emails to Apple suggesting they upgrade their music player to show more artist information, like the artist's NAME, a line or two about the artist, producer, songwriter, engineer, studio, photos, liner notes, bio, etc. Never got an answer. Look at iTunes, the artist's name at the top has the smallest letters and is very pale. They obviously don't get the connection between people finding artist info and creating fans who buy more music.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 2, 2019 15:00:51 GMT -6
My credits are all tangled up with the other Doug Williams, it's hopeless. Not that many of them up there either.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 2, 2019 15:13:00 GMT -6
The streamers want music to be wallpaper. With music typically being online now, the opportunity is there to create the same kind of interest an LP cover had. A photo that made you think about the artists, liner notes, song lyrics, etc.
I wonder if there's a streaming radio station that's like the early days of FM radio, where the DJ chooses the playlist and always had some interesting anecdotes.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2019 16:05:52 GMT -6
My credits are all tangled up with the other Doug Williams, it's hopeless. Not that many of them up there either. There's another John Kennedy that they mix up with me all the time...apparently there are about 17 million John Kennedy's
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 2, 2019 18:09:35 GMT -6
I've sent a few emails to Apple suggesting they upgrade their music player to show more artist information, like the artist's NAME, a line or two about the artist, producer, songwriter, engineer, studio, photos, liner notes, bio, etc. Never got an answer. Look at iTunes, the artist's name at the top has the smallest letters and is very pale. They obviously don't get the connection between people finding artist info and creating fans who buy more music. I switched to Tidal a long time ago. On any song there is a big "I" with a circle around it and if you hit that it rolls out all the credits for that particular song, not just the album. Tidal clearly has the creators' backs. And the consumer, the quality is refreshing and being able to download whatever playlist or album I want before I head out the door is nice too.
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 2, 2019 21:30:42 GMT -6
I will try this. (K.I.S.S.) what perplexes me is that I have had failure on separate units plugged into separate Furman’s. One thing I will say is MOTU has provided outstanding service and tech support through this process. Do they provide a root-cause for the failure when they send the unit back? I'm sure they just swap out the whole power supplies without actually troubleshooting to component level, but maybe they could tell you something more.. Do you power down the whole rack at one time, like on a single switch? I wonder if you're getting some kind of inductive kickback from all the supplies collapsing at one time and it's killing the MOTU stuff. I'm sure MOTU probably uses the same supply for all their gear, so it's not unlikely that all their gear would fail in the same way in your system. I'm going to be honest here, I think power conditioners are snakeoil. The cheap ones are usually nothing more than filters and protection that you find in ordinary power strips anyway. I do not power down my power strips for this very reason It feels like they are working awful hard when I do turn them on. If you don't use power conditioners what do you use to power your gear? I'm not trying to be cheeky here but I am curious how people handle powering up their outboard. Don't comment if you are running a macbook and an mbox,(if they make those anymore.)
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Post by svart on Jan 2, 2019 21:44:26 GMT -6
Do they provide a root-cause for the failure when they send the unit back? I'm sure they just swap out the whole power supplies without actually troubleshooting to component level, but maybe they could tell you something more.. Do you power down the whole rack at one time, like on a single switch? I wonder if you're getting some kind of inductive kickback from all the supplies collapsing at one time and it's killing the MOTU stuff. I'm sure MOTU probably uses the same supply for all their gear, so it's not unlikely that all their gear would fail in the same way in your system. I'm going to be honest here, I think power conditioners are snakeoil. The cheap ones are usually nothing more than filters and protection that you find in ordinary power strips anyway. I do not power down my power strips for this very reason It feels like they are working awful hard when I do turn them on. If you don't use power conditioners what do you use to power your gear? I'm not trying to be cheeky here but I am curious how people handle powering up their outboard. Don't comment if you are running a macbook and an mbox,(if they make those anymore.) I use two power strips like these in parallel: Parts Express 12 Outlet Strip 6 ft. Cord Circuit Breaker/Switch UL www.amazon.com/dp/B0091TKE7U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_EpylCbG75602PAnd they're wired directly into a junction box. The mixer and visual/audio monitors are on the same circuit, as are the guitar heads. All of it is wired with 12ga Romex and fed from a 20A circuit. All cable junctions are soldered instead of using the standard wire nuts. I run the lighting on a separate circuit. I also hard switch everything in the racks via the breaker and have been for like 8 years now without a single failure. However, I do turn everything off during thunderstorms and when I'm not using it of course.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 2, 2019 22:02:29 GMT -6
I have a friend that said he had contact info for someone high up and they would get it straight...but I haven’t even bothered. My credits (up until llike early 2017) are on my site so if people are interested enough, they can see it there. If you send them a hard copy (seriously), they usually get it up there. There are so many things I’ve missed credits on from allmusic. Then did something for Warner and my page blew up like crazy with a million credits for the same thing. The site can be useful but for the most part is a complete shit show.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 10, 2019 15:32:38 GMT -6
So... here's a funny story that I'm not laughing at. I re-routed my rig to go into my old school 2408MKII through adat into a separate computer for monitoring until I get my Monitor 8 back. Everything was working fine. I went home for new years and turned off the remaining 3 AVB units. I come back into the studio tonight and turn them all on and now the 24Ai is dead. Not kidding. I'm not sure if it's a power issue because they are all going to a separate Furman that is being fed from a Tripp Lite power conditioner. Everything else is fine and I have been running this setup for over 3 years. I am perplexed. Can I really have that bad of luck? Maybe this isn't the right thread for me to be commenting on this. If so, sorry, I will stop. Struck me I should look at your pic again. Looks like no empty space above and below those units (which they recommend in the manuals), and they run hot as hell. They may have cooked themselves if that's true. I know I took 16A and Monitor 8 on a live show remote once with no space between and they were insanely hot by the end of the gig.
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