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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 16, 2019 23:34:11 GMT -6
I’m still hoping things get shipped next week, but not certain how long they will take to get here ? 1073MPA only took 4 days till I received it in the states from ship date. I’m in the first 100 for the ADG and was told April. Either way going to be super great when it gets here. Uh...April 2019? Seriously?
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Post by seawell on Feb 17, 2019 0:49:37 GMT -6
good to know, I think there is some 20 unit limit per day so there’s a week right there? So serious question, if that 20 units per day limit is in place by the government or whatever, how is this logjam realistically ever going to end? I don’t mean to beat a dead horse as I no longer have any orders with Stam(they were all refunded 👍🏻). I thought the new direction was retail but the last time I posed that question it was ignored so I assume that is no longer the plan. I just don’t see how this ends well. Anyway....wishing everyone the best, (Stam included) and hoping you all get your gear soon but this shipping limit seems like an impossible hurdle.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 2:13:56 GMT -6
That 20 number was I think suggested as the total that he could ship daily, as if it was a limitation set by his staff or the shipping company, but it was never clear and I don’t think confirmed but I think was referenced by Josh ?
I hoped it was internal to his business and due to his previous numbers of staff and that it is higher now.
He last indicated that the first 100 adg were shipping I thought by yesterday, so let’s see what transpires over the next 5 business days ?
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Post by ragan on Feb 17, 2019 2:15:39 GMT -6
good to know, I think there is some 20 unit limit per day so there’s a week right there? So serious question, if that 20 units per day limit is in place by the government or whatever, how is this logjam realistically ever going to end? I don’t mean to beat a dead horse as I no longer have any orders with Stam(they were all refunded 👍🏻). I thought the new direction was retail but the last time I posed that question it was ignored so I assume that is no longer the plan. I just don’t see how this ends well. Anyway....wishing everyone the best, (Stam included) and hoping you all get your gear soon but this shipping limit seems like an impossible hurdle. It's gotta be some loophole thing, right? I don't think Falabella is limited to 20 units per day... I've just assumed it's Josh operating under the business license radar to keep costs low. There's no way Chile's economy could survive if legitimate full-scale businesses were given a daily shipping limit. Right???
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Post by ragan on Feb 17, 2019 2:17:14 GMT -6
I hit the "order" button almost immediately after the ADG was announced. I'd be shocked if I saw mine anytime soon. I'm just hoping for this year.
I'd love to be proven wrong of course but I didn't see my 1073MPA for months even after I paid in full and had been promised several 'for sure' shipping dates.
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Post by jtc111 on Feb 17, 2019 8:12:02 GMT -6
I don't think he'd share the information truthfully, and I don't blame him given the amount of backlog there is, but it might be helpful to everyone waiting and every potential buyer to know just how many outstanding orders there are. Then again, if he's not shipping 20 units of something every single day, the information would be misleading.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 17, 2019 10:02:51 GMT -6
At this point, I just don’t know what to say. At some point very soon, I’m going to be forced to make a decision as to whether I can in good conscience support this company on this site. I am NOT talking out of both sides of my mouth. I am being transparent. This isn’t about me receiving anything - this is about this company delivering what they’re advertising. Continuing to blow through date after date and then announcing new products is honestly insulting. I’ve heard two of his products. They were both excellent. That is exactly the reason any of us are still bothering with any of this. The only thing that can be done to turn this thing around is to deliver the goods at this point. At least some success stories for someone here in this thread so there can be a light at the end of this tunnel.
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 17, 2019 10:54:58 GMT -6
good to know, I think there is some 20 unit limit per day so there’s a week right there? So serious question, if that 20 units per day limit is in place by the government or whatever, how is this logjam realistically ever going to end? I don’t mean to beat a dead horse as I no longer have any orders with Stam(they were all refunded 👍🏻). I thought the new direction was retail but the last time I posed that question it was ignored so I assume that is no longer the plan. I just don’t see how this ends well. Anyway....wishing everyone the best, (Stam included) and hoping you all get your gear soon but this shipping limit seems like an impossible hurdle. I posed the same question in a similar thread and talked about my reluctance to buy anything from him due to his I inconsistencies. Stam replied that they are only going retail in certain markets (and already have) but will continue the preorder/direct sales model with North America and always will. He also stated that there have been no inconsistencies, only him adapting to the market place...so make of that what you will.
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Post by seawell on Feb 17, 2019 13:55:25 GMT -6
So serious question, if that 20 units per day limit is in place by the government or whatever, how is this logjam realistically ever going to end? I don’t mean to beat a dead horse as I no longer have any orders with Stam(they were all refunded 👍🏻). I thought the new direction was retail but the last time I posed that question it was ignored so I assume that is no longer the plan. I just don’t see how this ends well. Anyway....wishing everyone the best, (Stam included) and hoping you all get your gear soon but this shipping limit seems like an impossible hurdle. I posed the same question in a similar thread and talked about my reluctance to buy anything from him due to his I inconsistencies. Stam replied that they are only going retail in certain markets (and already have) but will continue the preorder/direct sales model with North America and always will. He also stated that there have been no inconsistencies, only him adapting to the market place...so make of that what you will. Oh ok, thanks for the info. That's weird, I don't remember anything being mentioned about it being region specific when it was announced they were going that direction. I was looking forward to it going retail even if prices would go up because me and the pre-order model did not get along too well haha.
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 17, 2019 14:02:34 GMT -6
Yeah well you’re right, when it was announced it was a blanket statement that was clearly addressed to all of us North Americans (as well as our neighbors across the pond). But that’s just par for the coarse
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 15:09:18 GMT -6
Apparently, according to Josh, now he has decided to supply NA using his original model, so frustrations aside apparently that still provides people with the opportunity to buy with pre-order pricing.
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Post by drbill on Feb 17, 2019 15:12:00 GMT -6
Where can you order from a dealer? Curious.
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Post by jtc111 on Feb 17, 2019 15:34:48 GMT -6
The amount of patience many of you have shown Josh is amazing considering the constant stream of obfuscations and delays. I consider myself a pretty patient person but you folks have me topped by a long stretch.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 15:56:32 GMT -6
Where can you order from a dealer? Curious. Well, implicitly, according to Josh outside North America, but I don’t have any specifics?
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 17, 2019 16:27:54 GMT -6
good to know, I think there is some 20 unit limit per day so there’s a week right there? You think he’s building 20 units a day? By hand? I don’t.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 16:33:36 GMT -6
No, that was a reference to a daily shipping limitation that had been referenced in the past.
Last week, Josh said 100 would be done, burned in and start shipping on Friday, but then, he said he was checking them over this weekend to make sure they are ready, so I guess this week starting tomorrow, will tell the tail ?
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Post by 000 on Feb 17, 2019 16:40:15 GMT -6
No, that was a reference to a daily shipping limitation that had been referenced in the past. Last week, Josh said 100 would be done, burned in and start shipping on Friday, but then, he said he was checking them over this weekend to make sure they are ready, so I guess this week starting tomorrow, will tell the tail ? Where did you see this? I’m under the impression he was working on a small run (20) so that reviews could be made. I’m under the impression that these are “probably April”.
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Post by Chad on Feb 17, 2019 16:48:09 GMT -6
Where can you order from a dealer? Curious. Well, implicitly, according to Josh outside North America, but I don’t have any specifics? Hi, Gentlemen, Trying to help... I was curious about that as well, so I Googled "Stam Audio €". Here's what came up: masteringmansion.com/pro-audio/marca/stam-audio/
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 16:54:25 GMT -6
No, that was a reference to a daily shipping limitation that had been referenced in the past. Last week, Josh said 100 would be done, burned in and start shipping on Friday, but then, he said he was checking them over this weekend to make sure they are ready, so I guess this week starting tomorrow, will tell the tail ? Where did you see this? I’m under the impression he was working on a small run (20) so that reviews could be made. I’m under the impression that these are “probably April”. Josh said it here on one of the threads a few days ago.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2019 17:04:49 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Feb 17, 2019 17:22:27 GMT -6
Well, implicitly, according to Josh outside North America, but I don’t have any specifics? Hi, Gentlemen, Trying to help... I was curious about that as well, so I Googled "Stam Audio €". Here's what came up: masteringmansion.com/pro-audio/marca/stam-audio/I don’t believe that place has all those items in stock. If they do, there are a ton of folks waiting on their gear who should be upset.
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Post by jtc111 on Feb 17, 2019 17:33:41 GMT -6
Well, implicitly, according to Josh outside North America, but I don’t have any specifics? Hi, Gentlemen, Trying to help... I was curious about that as well, so I Googled "Stam Audio €". Here's what came up: masteringmansion.com/pro-audio/marca/stam-audio/If it's true that those items are in stock, that's a big F-U to every person who's been waiting on gear.
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Post by oliviadolphinjohn on Feb 17, 2019 17:49:45 GMT -6
It seems to me he's a lot like an ex-friend of mine who was always late, but had 'reasons'. I'm imagining he never predicted he might want to change that quirk.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 17, 2019 17:57:45 GMT -6
It seems to me he's a lot like an ex-friend of mine who was always late, but had 'reasons'. I'm imagining he never predicted he might want to change that quirk. Nice username
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Post by oliviadolphinjohn on Feb 17, 2019 18:18:27 GMT -6
It seems to me he's a lot like an ex-friend of mine who was always late, but had 'reasons'. I'm imagining he never predicted he might want to change that quirk. Nice username cheers man, just having a couple bourbons and seven and waiting patiently for the stamchild.
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