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Post by swurveman on Mar 21, 2018 12:48:59 GMT -6
I got some bass tracks from a band and the bass sounds clacky as hell. It is the most predominant thing of the performance. I've tried to EQ out the clack, but am having trouble taming it. Anybody have any suggestions?
I haven't done a lot of multi band compression. If that's the best solution, if anybody has any tips I'd appreciate it.
Honestly, I'd have the guy come in and re-record his bass, but I've met him and he's a mess of discontent and arrogance. So, I'd prefer just making lemons out of lemonade.
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Post by matt on Mar 21, 2018 12:55:18 GMT -6
I got some bass tracks from a band and the bass sounds clacky as hell. I've used a de-esser like Fab Pro-DS to good effect. The only thing about that plug is it won't go below 2K (as I remember). But I bet any de-esser will help to some degree.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 21, 2018 12:58:43 GMT -6
de-esser or high frequency limiter is probably your best friend here. dbx 902 is good at this, and goes pretty low in freq.
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Post by svart on Mar 21, 2018 13:00:49 GMT -6
If it's not a terribly large number of clanks, you can just edit down the volume of those clanks. That's worked for me before if the tone was good and the issue is just a percussive string hit. I don't find that compressors or EQ work terribly well on these types of issues.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 21, 2018 13:29:44 GMT -6
iZotope RX6 maybe?
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Post by matt@IAA on Mar 21, 2018 13:41:33 GMT -6
Just put it low in the mix. No one listens to bass anyway.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 21, 2018 14:16:22 GMT -6
yep, izotope RX# should do well with this. I haven't had need since I've had it.
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Post by hasbeen on Mar 21, 2018 14:26:17 GMT -6
Got any amp sims? Send the track to a variety of amplifiers and also try a touch of distortion pedal either directly or on a buss.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 21, 2018 15:34:17 GMT -6
Just put it low in the mix. No one listens to bass anyway. I laffed
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 21, 2018 15:35:52 GMT -6
Yeah - use an EQ to sweep and find the freq that's clacking...then use a multiband to tame that freq. Fabfilter Pro MB is so super simple - so demo that one if you don't have it.
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 21, 2018 15:41:31 GMT -6
I suppose the clacking is too extreme, but I’ve had great success with my Weight Tank compressor on a slightly clacky double bass. It’s almost like the attack and release allow you to sculpt the clack. But again, it was already usable to begin with.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 21, 2018 15:44:03 GMT -6
You didn't say if this was DI or mic.
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Post by Blackdawg on Mar 21, 2018 16:25:50 GMT -6
Id RX it. Use spectral repair and just do the everything above 1k with the DeClicker. Then use a Deesser or MB compressor if its still too bad.
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Post by svart on Mar 22, 2018 6:13:21 GMT -6
Also, if you don't want to edit a lot and the clanky sound IS centered around a specific frequency, you can send that to an EQ, and cut everything else but that frequency, and then send that to a sidechain of a compressor on the bass channel. That way you can duck only that frequency without seriously messing with anything else.
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Post by adamjbrass on Mar 22, 2018 6:29:12 GMT -6
fast attack on an 1176 might lose the clackity
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Post by swurveman on Mar 22, 2018 7:23:20 GMT -6
Thanks for your replies guys. It was a DI. I have tried a deesser, but didn't have a lot of luck. There are so many clacks that I'd spend a long time manually getting rid of them. They're not paying me enough for that. I do have an 1176 so I'll try that and I'll look into the Fabfilter MB, amp sims, etc. .
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Post by christopher on Mar 22, 2018 7:48:14 GMT -6
First, DI.. run it hard through something analog, push into clipping. Next, mult it to a couple of tracks. Low pass one heavy well under 1k. This will be your main track. Bring up some mids, a bump in 600-900 and another 1-3k. The other track high pass with EQ bump up in the 4/7k region. This is your attack. Compress the hell out of it, get a nice controlled "snap", blend that really really low and soft into first track. This is where I start with tracks like this, then keep going as needed.Good luck.
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Post by drsax on Mar 22, 2018 9:42:04 GMT -6
UAD or Sonnox Dynamix EQ will help you. I’ve used de-Essers as well. Multiband comps work but I think the dynamic eq’s Give me the best results with this type of problem
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Post by mcirish on Mar 22, 2018 10:26:53 GMT -6
I had an upright bass track that was impossible to use with the clack and groans and squeaks. Izotope RX and an hour made it completely usable. I never tried the deesser idea. I'm going to give that a shot next time as a possible simpler fix if it's not too bad.
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Post by bram on Mar 22, 2018 10:46:01 GMT -6
All good suggestions in this thread. Izotope RX’s Declick is helpful in this regard, as well as manual attenuation of the problem clank frequencies. You can select the offending frequencies on a spectrograph by drawing around them (think Photoshop Lasso tool) and attenuate only those areas.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 22, 2018 11:49:42 GMT -6
I had an upright bass track that was impossible to use with the clack and groans and squeaks. Izotope RX and an hour made it completely usable. I never tried the deesser idea. I'm going to give that a shot next time as a possible simpler fix if it's not too bad. I racked a bar-room string band once in rural Oregon....clacky dog-house player! I spent a few hours editing those tracks in RADAR. This is before I jumped onto the PT train for editing/mixing.
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Post by Ward on Mar 23, 2018 4:44:46 GMT -6
Remember the old X-noise and Z-noise plug-ins? They work sometimes.
I must be a bit crazy, though, because whenever I have encountered this, I have HAD to go in and manually take each clack down in volume - else I'd go insane.
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Post by allbuttonmode on Mar 23, 2018 6:25:46 GMT -6
This has been mentioned before in this thread, but: re-amping or amp plugin. I've had success with both UA and IK's Ampeg sim. Just make sure you go for the B15 sim
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Post by schmalzy on Mar 26, 2018 16:10:27 GMT -6
Depending on the clack sound - transient designers, limiters, 1176, clippers. That's all in my back pocket for dealing with clacky bass.
I like to mult that bass out. Below that clack/the clack area and above. At least then whatever mangling I have to do to the area where the clack is doesn't mess too much with my bottom end.
Transient designer or 1176 followed by limiter followed by clipper is generally how I end up getting the most useable sound.
Sum 'em back together, amp simulator (or maybe not), and dynamic EQ to get it the rest of the way. It's never perfect but it's been useable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 2:51:33 GMT -6
Brainworx dynEQ, Waves Trans X multi and Izotope DeClicker works for me.
Manual clip gain works great but it's not an option if they are not paying you enough.
Sorry to play devil's advocate here but I'd be very p***ed if I'm bassist and engineer didn't notice issues when recording. We all know arrogant and insecure musicians but it always worked for me to send them a sample showing an issue and evaluate situation looking for solutions.
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