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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 24, 2018 9:49:15 GMT -6
Anyone tried the DIYRACKED one? Built in features of that one looks sweet plus built in parallel mixing.
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Post by mike on Jul 25, 2018 6:09:47 GMT -6
I was leaning on getting a AudioScape SSL since I like my AS opto very much, but I'm tempted by the upgrades Stam is offering on his new MK2 SSL Comp that includes a Neve or API mod choice at > link Aside from the often delayed shipping dates that is a non starter for some,.. what do you folks with more experience than I think of the potential of this box vs the Audio-scape ? Mike Before buying any SSL clone I would have a talk with our own Jerome Mason about building a copy of his Frankenstein SSL bus comp! I don’t know what he would want for one but it’s what I would want.
The description sounds fantastic, but I think I read earlier on this thread he wanted to keep it a one of a kind
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 10, 2019 14:31:07 GMT -6
Now that some of you have lived with the AS buss compressor for a while, do you feel this is still a solid 2-buss option to mix through?
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Post by mikec on Mar 10, 2019 14:37:56 GMT -6
Now that some of you have lived with the AS buss compressor for a while, do you feel this is still a solid 2-buss option to mix through? Mine stays in the insert of my Silver Bullet and is on full time on my mix bus.
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Post by 000 on Mar 10, 2019 16:00:12 GMT -6
It’s a good sounding box that does the SSL thing. Mine is honestly in need of some slight repairs as it’s kind of falling apart (vu meter is erratic/light is going out and the switches are cheap and often need to be tightened down). I do however like the way it sounds - was just a little disappointed by the build quality. Very curious to compare vs the new stam version.
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 10, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -6
Now that some of you have lived with the AS buss compressor for a while, do you feel this is still a solid 2-buss option to mix through? Mine stays in the insert of my Silver Bullet and is on full time on my mix bus. 100% ditto.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 10, 2019 18:41:57 GMT -6
Mine hasn’t moved off my 2 buss. Seems rock solid and a quality build. Definitely recommend !
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -6
It’s a good sounding box that does the SSL thing. Mine is honestly in need of some slight repairs as it’s kind of falling apart (vu meter is erratic/light is going out and the switches are cheap and often need to be tightened down). I do however like the way it sounds - was just a little disappointed by the build quality. Very curious to compare vs the new stam version. Do you have any endorsements or association with Stam?
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Post by 000 on Mar 10, 2019 19:36:47 GMT -6
It’s a good sounding box that does the SSL thing. Mine is honestly in need of some slight repairs as it’s kind of falling apart (vu meter is erratic/light is going out and the switches are cheap and often need to be tightened down). I do however like the way it sounds - was just a little disappointed by the build quality. Very curious to compare vs the new stam version. Do you have any endorsements or association with Stam? Cause I stick up for him in the other threads? I have bought products from both companies - and think it’s completely fair to compare them directly as they are made for similar markets. I wish my Audioscape SSL was built better - Chris’ customer service is top notch.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2019 19:54:24 GMT -6
It just seems weird and not my experience with AudioScape. And you always seem to have something positive to say about Stam in AS threads and negative about AS. Hey - maybe that’s really your experience, but I’m not the only one that has wondered this.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 10, 2019 20:07:42 GMT -6
Chris is awesome to deal with and his customer service wipes the floor with Stam’s. Chris has always went above and beyond every time I’ve dealt with him.
That being said, I’ve had the AS buss comp and Stam buss comp opened up on the workbench side by side, as well as both of their LA2A’s. Stam’s builds are more solid, IMO. The components are placed and soldered better, the switches are better, the metal work is better. I think Josh is just using better quality materials all around.
However, I’m still rocking the AS buss comp, even after comparing, though I do have a Stam MKII (w/ transformers) on preorder.
Of course, the usual Stam caveats apply.
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 10, 2019 20:33:25 GMT -6
Do you have any endorsements or association with Stam? Cause I stick up for him in the other threads? I have bought products from both companies - and think it’s completely fair to compare them directly as they are made for similar markets. I wish my Audioscape SSL was built better - Chris’ customer service is top notch. I don't know who it was.... But I remember commenting on the delay thing and my theory on why so many products were hitting and so many deposits need be taken and I don't remember who it was, but someone accused me of being an AudioScape shill. Have to see if I can dig that up, been a while ago.
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 10, 2019 21:45:49 GMT -6
I own a pair of Audio-Scape Optos and a 76A. I have no concerns about the build quality. My interest is in how a piece of gear sounds and how useful it will be to me. If I have to tighten a nut, so what? I want to get a piece of good gear in my rack ...IN MY RACK. A piece of gear that is promised in April and not delivered until the following March does me no good. I want to deal with an honest builder who delivers on time and doesn't lie to me about delivery dates that get postponed over and over and over and over. When I send my money in for an order, I'd like to at least have some modicum of respect for the person receiving it or, short of that, at least have no reason to disdain that person. There are plenty of good options in the world; there's no reason to reward deception and dishonesty with my business.
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Post by 000 on Mar 10, 2019 22:48:56 GMT -6
I own a pair of Audio-Scape Optos and a 76A. I have no concerns about the build quality. My interest is in how a piece of gear sounds and how useful it will be to me. If I have to tighten a nut, so what? I want to get a piece of good gear in my rack ... IN MY RACK. A piece of gear that is promised in April and not delivered until the following March does me no good. I want to deal with an honest builder who delivers on time and doesn't lie to me about delivery dates that get postponed over and over and over and over. When I send my money in for an order, I'd like to at least have some modicum of respect for the person receiving it or, short of that, at least have no reason to disdain that person. There are plenty of good options in the world; there's no reason to reward deception and dishonesty with my business. I 100% agree with how a piece of gear sounds and how useful it is being paramount to its value. I think both companies provide a great value to their customers - and that’s the important part. I have ordered from both companies and plan to order from both again. I only have my experiences to base my opinions off of - and I’m confident that if I let Chris know about my problems then he would be right on top of it. I’ve just been far too busy to deal with it - and once again I use this unit often and it sounds good for what I’m using it for. The obvious elephant in the room is that these companies are direct competitors in a lot of ways. Yet, they have different business models and the customer experience is vastly different. Chris is a solid dude making American built products - at a price that is very difficult for the states. Josh is also making great priced products - but he is kind of a wild card - yet I find him highly entertaining. He always delivers on his products - and they really are second to none. For me at this time hardware purchases are luxury pieces. I have everything I “need” to do my job inside the computer - but getting the hardware is really more for my personal enjoyment. That’s my perspective - and I understand it may be different from others - but in the end we’re all here to discuss the gear.
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 10, 2019 23:00:13 GMT -6
Josh...always delivers on his products... When talking about Josh, it's best to avoid "delivery" cliches. I let him hold my money for more than 6 months after the original promised delivery time. He didn't deliver.
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Post by swafford on Mar 11, 2019 10:55:45 GMT -6
There are plenty of good options in the world; there's no reason to reward deception and dishonesty with my business. Yep.
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 11, 2019 16:10:47 GMT -6
I pulled the trigger on the AS Buss Compressor today. They were out of stock on the website so I shot Chris an email to ask when I could get one. He wrote back and said he just finished two units and put them up on the site. It will ship tomorrow ...drama free.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 11, 2019 16:28:38 GMT -6
Nice, sure you will like it a lot !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 4:13:01 GMT -6
I tried both AS and STAM.
I prefer AS because of:
- It just sounds better to me. Maybe 5% better (if it could be measurable) - Chris is a super nice guy and I prefer giving my money to him.
Don't like STAM business model at all
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Post by stam on Mar 12, 2019 8:48:32 GMT -6
I tried both AS and STAM. I prefer AS because of: - It just sounds better to me. Maybe 5% better (if it could be measurable) - Chris is a super nice guy and I prefer giving my money to him. Don't like STAM business model at all Interesting how two identical circuits can sound different with the same components. Assuming you tried the MK1. The MK2 will sound different from both. I am sorry to hear you don't like my business model, I think it should be better as well, maybe one day we can please you I have always recommended Chris as a good alternative to my clients that can't wait for my work, I believe he makes good units and seems to be a nice guy
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Post by Ward on Mar 12, 2019 9:09:18 GMT -6
Interesting how two identical circuits can sound different with the same components. This is so true!! Many times we have two identical pieces of gear and you can clearly hear the difference! I have 3 Neumann U89s and no two sound identical. 3 U87s, same thing. etc etc
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Post by mike on Mar 12, 2019 10:28:50 GMT -6
This is so true!! Many times we have two identical pieces of gear and you can clearly hear the difference! I have 3 Neumann U89s and no two sound identical. 3 U87s, same thing. etc etc
I've always found it to be that way with mic's whether it was a bunch of Shure Sm58's all purchased from the same dealer and lot or whether it was the same make/model of more expensive LDC mic's. No two sounded identical and there would always be one that sounded better than the other(s)
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 12, 2019 10:34:57 GMT -6
Too bad it's nearly impossible to audition a few mic capsules and cherry pick.
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 12, 2019 10:56:55 GMT -6
Placed my Buss Compressor order yesterday, got a tracking number today, unit will be here Friday. Such an odd way to run a business.
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Post by Mister Chase on Mar 12, 2019 14:19:51 GMT -6
Anyone gonna do a compare betwixt the AudioScape and say the newest UAD SSL Bus comp? I'd be curious to check out those results. I'm sure the hardware is better, but I just would like to hear how much to my ears. For the price it's almost worth just buying it anyway to see...
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