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Post by junior on Jan 27, 2018 1:13:33 GMT -6
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 27, 2018 1:32:31 GMT -6
PT 2018? Hell, I thought they'd just got up to PT12!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 27, 2018 1:44:29 GMT -6
The guys I’ve been working with lately run cubase. I’m a pro tools guy for the past 15 years, and I gotta say - there are certain features in cubase that makes PT look like a damn toy.
This is all relatively cool stuff, but how about getting up to speed on what other DAWS are capable of doing?
Watching somebody take drum tracks, select hit points, convert it to a midi track, and then trigger superior drummer for adding flawless supportive sample umph in seconds was eye opening for me. Granted, when I’m producing/engineering I have no use for that stuff. But when I’m getting paid to work in another style of music, it certainly is Needed.
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Post by junior on Jan 27, 2018 1:54:05 GMT -6
And, some videos:
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Post by matt on Jan 27, 2018 10:16:29 GMT -6
I said WTF and installed 2018.1. On my system, memory usage by PT creeps up if you leave a session open beyond 8 hours or so. But it's been that way in version 12 too. So - so far, so good. I like the channel EQ display, all of my instances of Fab ProQ2 show up as nice little curves. Other EQs (Waves, izotope, etc) do not display. Yet. Track presets and the way automation is displayed (orange text = active) are cool too.
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Post by mikec on Jan 27, 2018 10:33:35 GMT -6
I used 2018.1 for several hours yesterday tracking guitars and doing some light mixing and it worked great. FF ProQ2 is my go to EQ so the EQ curve display was a nice touch.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jan 27, 2018 21:45:10 GMT -6
I'm trying to think of the one thing I need to upgrade from 11.3.2. anybody ever using the freeze track from 12?do the new midi additions in '18 do anything useful?
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Post by drbill on Jan 27, 2018 22:22:20 GMT -6
Does 2018 have the track folders yet?
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 27, 2018 22:50:19 GMT -6
Is this still listed as PT12? I was looking around and I'm a bit confused here.
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Post by matt on Jan 28, 2018 1:05:19 GMT -6
Is this still listed as PT12? I was looking around and I'm a bit confused here. Avid has abandoned sequential versioning. 2018.1 was released on the first day of NAMM, so, Thursday 01.25.2018. You can download it from your Avid account page, assuming you are current with support.
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2018 8:55:44 GMT -6
I'm sticking with 10
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 28, 2018 9:13:27 GMT -6
Loving this.
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Post by ericn on Jan 28, 2018 12:28:30 GMT -6
All I'm going to say is RADAR love😁
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 29, 2018 3:39:45 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes.
I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import.
This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list.
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Post by ericn on Jan 29, 2018 8:58:25 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes. I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import. This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list. Yeah But it's AVID, you know they are going to hire a new consultant who's going to do exactly what your saying not to! It's not like we haven't been down that road before. It's AVID😎
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Post by mikec on Jan 29, 2018 9:37:15 GMT -6
I use several DAWS based on my needs at the time and find that all of them can be used equally well to record and mix the type of music I prefer. What I find interesting is that when visiting forums and reading discussions on each of them, pretty much all of them suck if you were to believe what various people on other forums write. I guess that is just the state of how easy it is to start making music with a computer and some software and we are lucky to have so many choices. Nevertheless, it still all boils down to the talent behind the mic or instrument.
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2018 10:23:06 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes. I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import. This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list. That sounds interesting / encouraging Jerome!! Can you explain more, or perhaps point to a vid tutorial on the new features you're commenting on. I use track import constantly. Would love to speed things up.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 29, 2018 10:45:38 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes. I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import. This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list. The track preset stuff looks really really nice. I could get into that, but my machine is running flawlessly and I'm not currently interested in having an update mess with that at this point. I'm totally uninterested in the colab stuff. I cant imagine sharing a session, only to open it back up with a bunch of changes some yahoo made because they thought they knew better. Sounds like a nightmare to me. Granted, I've never used it so perhaps there is something to guard against this from happening?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2018 11:40:49 GMT -6
There's some kind of monthly fee for sending a session over a certain (low) size...
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Post by mikec on Jan 29, 2018 13:03:52 GMT -6
I got the chance to use the new track comping feature yesterday and I thought it worked really well. Definitely an improvement. I'm currently working on something with only 15 audio tracks and SD3 right now but I find 2018.1 to be very CPU friendly with my current 2012 Mac mini quad i7. I rarely get over 25 to 30 audio tracks so it will be interesting to see if it stays that way.
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 29, 2018 13:58:05 GMT -6
Is this still listed as PT12? I was looking around and I'm a bit confused here. Avid has abandoned sequential versioning. 2018.1 was released on the first day of NAMM, so, Thursday 01.25.2018. You can download it from your Avid account page, assuming you are current with support. Why so I suspect that somebody at Avid is deeply superstitious abnout the number "13"?
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 29, 2018 15:04:47 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes. I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import. This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list. That sounds interesting / encouraging Jerome!! Can you explain more, or perhaps point to a vid tutorial on the new features you're commenting on. I use track import constantly. Would love to speed things up. This one shows it pretty well Bill,
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 29, 2018 15:07:21 GMT -6
Love this new stuff. Talk about saving time and file transfers.... holy smokes. I hated doing session import data for getting a mix started, the track presets, why the hell they didn't do this before like Cubase I'll never know, but they went over and above, that sped up a mix I started tonight exponentially, and it wasn't anywhere as clunky as doing a session data import. This collaboration thing is getting to really become a norm too. I love that I don't have to sit and transfer sessions out to overdub guys anymore, I just invite them. Also the producers and exec's can pop in and listen to the print, notate if they pulled a verb down or something, that saves me a lot of time and having to run off another mix ref and recall. I'm loving the way Avid is going. Just don't do any price hikes or weird ass buy in stuff and they'll stay off my Poo Poo list. Yeah But it's AVID, you know they are going to hire a new consultant who's going to do exactly what your saying not to! It's not like we haven't been down that road before. It's AVID😎 Well that's what I'm afraid of. They're like the crazy ex....... You want to trust that she's changed and you want to believe she's not bat Sh*$ crazy anymore, but you still proceed with caution.
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2018 15:24:57 GMT -6
That sounds interesting / encouraging Jerome!! Can you explain more, or perhaps point to a vid tutorial on the new features you're commenting on. I use track import constantly. Would love to speed things up. This one shows it pretty well Bill, Thanks! Yeah, that's pretty cool!! Do you know if they got track folders into this release yet?
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 29, 2018 16:08:35 GMT -6
Thanks! Yeah, that's pretty cool!! Do you know if they got track folders into this release yet? Do you mean like lanes, kind of like Cubase has? I haven't been able to mine it fully, but yeah, I do believe they've got a variant of that. The thing that kind of pisses me off here, it looks as if Protools is setting up their GUI and workspaces to accept an OMF'ish style file from Cubase, but Cubase doesn't offer the AAF format to export that kind of detail, at least that's how I understand it. Someone out there could make a ton of money on royalties if they can come up with an exchange format, rally up all the DAW dev's to agree on a format that allows import/export from DAW to DAW. Check out the new comping stuff Bill, dig into that a bit, it's lightning fast and makes way more sense.
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