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Post by ericn on Feb 5, 2018 10:52:22 GMT -6
All about what works for you, with little or no sensation in most of what fingers I have on the left hand I funny enough need the tactile feel of an encoder, or I have learned to use them after 38 years of fighting ( the left median nerve was repaird after I fell through a door at 12, then add in the loss of thumb and half a finger and the ulner nerve being moved during burn recovery and to put it as bluntly as the guy who is the hand surgeon who works on all the top athletes "Yeah Eric your pretty much fucked I'm amazed you can use the thing at all). Oof. Sorry man. Thanks it's just this thing we call life, but what I was really trying to get across as we enter a more control surface centric world is that there is no one type of solution works for everybody and many times because of how we work the perfect solution maybe the polar opposite! That said I think if I had the right tactile control and the right touchscreen intergrated right I would be happy! The RADAR remote spoils you because you want everything built like it! I would love to move to an SSL Sigma based system, but I want a a Control Surface with great Sigma implementation and EUCON!
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Post by john on Feb 5, 2018 10:57:37 GMT -6
i just got a x-touch compact for super cheap. I had the full size but too many of the buttons didn't work in Reaper. definitely agree that touchscreen just doesn't equal tactile. the faderport looks good but a lack of pan on each channel wouldn't work for me. I love to pan two tracks at a time and allow that real-time separation to guide the amount of panning. I understand it can be done with the faders but I feel that would take from the natural mix feeling I want back since I sold my ssl x-desk. otherwise faderport looks like a good step in the right direction. I feel like ssl could have nailed it on the nucleus but they insist on making it this hybrid analog $5k monster. shame.
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Post by rocinante on Feb 5, 2018 11:47:05 GMT -6
I gotta say my Icon has been flawless. Its small so fits in front of my console nice. Its never been a problem. Jog works great along with transport functions. And they make an add on. Works in S1 perfectly too. Bummer there is no pan on the Faderport.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 5, 2018 12:09:53 GMT -6
There is a pan on faderport 8/16 (rotary top left hand side) and works by dedicated channel, you touch a channel the rotary becomes the pan for that channel
you can also use the large rotary and I think you can assign panning to the faders.
You could also automate one and then do the other manually to find the sweet spot or do one with the pan and I think one with the rotary but I would need to check that as it has user assignable functionality too.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 5, 2018 12:23:42 GMT -6
4. Pan. When Pan mode is active, the motorized faders will display and control channel pan. When not active, the Pan/Param knob to the left of the scribble strips controls the panning for the currently selected channel. Pressing the Pan button also toggles metering on and off in the scribble strip displays 3.6.3 Pan Mode Pressing the Pan button will allow you to adjust pan for every track using the faders. For stereo channels, the left pan is active by default. To switch to the right pan control, press Shift. Link. When Link is enabled, the Pan / Param encoder will control any parameter beneath your mouse. To lock a parameter to this encoder, press SHIFT + Link. www-media-presonus.netdna-ssl.com/downloads/products/pdf/FaderPort16_OwnersManual_EN_28112017.pdfThere are different sections by DAW and a select button on start upstart that launches the correct config.
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Post by keymod on Feb 6, 2018 6:30:01 GMT -6
Thanks it's just this thing we call life, but what I was really trying to get across as we enter a more control surface centric world is that there is no one type of solution works for everybody and many times because of how we work the perfect solution maybe the polar opposite! That said I think if I had the right tactile control and the right touchscreen intergrated right I would be happy! The RADAR remote spoils you because you want everything built like it! I would love to move to an SSL Sigma based system, but I want a a Control Surface with great Sigma implementation and EUCON! Agreed about the Radar Remote - very high quality and easy to use. How great would it be if IZ Technology developed a moving fader add-on that could plug into one of the jacks on the back. If they could automate volume levels with something like that I don't think I'd have any use for a computer DAW. Or they could figure out a way to utilize MIDI with any of the available controllers = awesome. FWIW, my JL Cooper MCS3800 and extensions are built with the same quality as the Radar Remote.
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 6, 2018 7:50:58 GMT -6
A little off topic but what happened to the Avid Artist series ? I was going to buy it one day now its gone ? I though EuCon was superior ?
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Post by ericn on Feb 6, 2018 8:25:09 GMT -6
Thanks it's just this thing we call life, but what I was really trying to get across as we enter a more control surface centric world is that there is no one type of solution works for everybody and many times because of how we work the perfect solution maybe the polar opposite! That said I think if I had the right tactile control and the right touchscreen intergrated right I would be happy! The RADAR remote spoils you because you want everything built like it! I would love to move to an SSL Sigma based system, but I want a a Control Surface with great Sigma implementation and EUCON! Agreed about the Radar Remote - very high quality and easy to use. How great would it be if IZ Technology developed a moving fader add-on that could plug into one of the jacks on the back. If they could automate volume levels with something like that I don't think I'd have any use for a computer DAW. Or they could figure out a way to utilize MIDI with any of the available controllers = awesome. FWIW, my JL Cooper MCS3800 and extensions are built with the same quality as the Radar Remote. JL Cooper is probably the best built small scale controller, but if it isn't AVID no EUCON ! Ever seen one of the original Euphonix MC5 small scale units ? It cost a fortune but think Avid Artist control, with keyboards built like a RADAR remote!
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Post by ericn on Feb 6, 2018 8:25:52 GMT -6
A little off topic but what happened to the Avid Artist series ? I was going to buy it one day now its gone ? I though EuCon was superior ? SW and others still have them listed!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 6, 2018 8:28:16 GMT -6
A little off topic but what happened to the Avid Artist series ? I was going to buy it one day now its gone ? I though EuCon was superior ? Artist Control and Transport were discontinued. Mix is still kicking.
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Post by sozocaps on Feb 6, 2018 8:39:01 GMT -6
that stinks... I wanted to make a desk of it
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Post by ericn on Feb 6, 2018 13:13:05 GMT -6
that stinks... I wanted to make a desk of it Think used my freind!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 19:20:54 GMT -6
I'll have one here next week. Hey Kcat, how did you get on with the faderport? I'm thinking about having two SSL Bix Six's as "side carts" and then having the Faderport in the middle for automation / DAW control etc.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 26, 2022 19:26:09 GMT -6
It worked well, scribble strips are small, but angling the FP can help that, faders were a little noisy, not terrible, it is actually quite deep if you want to run it that way, you have the one rotary but can set faders as balance controls too, and I think it still has the 3 assignable buttons, best to use it with studio one to get all features.
I ended up selling it, sometimes I think about getting another.
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Post by reddirt on Jan 26, 2022 22:52:42 GMT -6
Am late to this party - had the original fader port and it never played well with my set up (poor fader resolution)as well as having clunky buttons. Got the new one in a boxing day sale for when i finally get an M series Mac set up. The buttons on this are so much more like it and it generally it's made much more elegantly. Plus Vance Powell has one on his SSL ! Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 27, 2022 3:18:24 GMT -6
The transport buttons are what I liked best!
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 27, 2022 12:27:38 GMT -6
I'd like one of the 16s or some kind of device like this that would work in multiple DAWs. It's just so much easier to grab multiple faders when mixing jazz and the like. I have used an ipad for this but it's nowhere near as good as a real fader.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 27, 2022 13:20:06 GMT -6
You’d like the fp16 then!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 27, 2022 13:21:17 GMT -6
If anyone wants a fp8?, one locally here asking $500 cdn, they aren’t big or heavy so shipping wouldn’t be much.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 27, 2022 22:53:18 GMT -6
I'll have one here next week. Hey Kcat, how did you get on with the faderport? I'm thinking about having two SSL Bix Six's as "side carts" and then having the Faderport in the middle for automation / DAW control etc. I love my FP16. For your purposes I think you’d get on well depending on DAW.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 2:04:42 GMT -6
Hey Kcat, how did you get on with the faderport? I'm thinking about having two SSL Bix Six's as "side carts" and then having the Faderport in the middle for automation / DAW control etc. I love my FP16. For your purposes I think you’d get on well depending on DAW. Logic pro, can't deny it's 99% for automation and transport. So much easier having a record / rewind / play button right in front of you and it makes up for the only thing really lacking on the SSL Big Six's. I don't need it do anything fancy like plugin control..
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 28, 2022 2:14:52 GMT -6
FP16 will rock logic’s, volume, transport and your screen interacts too!
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 28, 2022 2:22:16 GMT -6
I love my FP16. For your purposes I think you’d get on well depending on DAW. Logic pro, can't deny it's 99% for automation and transport. So much easier having a record / rewind / play button right in front of you and it makes up for the only thing really lacking on the SSL Big Six's. I don't need it do anything fancy like plugin control.. You may not even need a Faderport 16. I ended up getting the single channel one because what I needed the most was transport and one fader for rides. I wouldn't have minded getting the 16, but ultimately in my case space was an issue and after working in a studio that had a 16, I realized that most of the time I was just using one fader. The faders and build quality are definitely nice, particularly for the price. I also do quite a bit of work on a S6 and switching back to the faderport is not too big of a shock.
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Post by mattbroiler on Jan 28, 2022 3:30:00 GMT -6
slightly off topic but I really like the Icon Platform M+ personally I don't want/need all of the extra daw function buttons and a display screen just the faders and transport pricewise it's a bit less than the FP8 I think I paid $300ish for this one spacewise it fits my desk well as I don't want to make room for an FP8 or similar the Icon has been working great - it's ideal for my setup
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 28, 2022 5:56:54 GMT -6
I have a FP16 I use with a Softube Console 1.
It makes for a great combo - I love the 16 faders in a small foot print and all in all it's a very slick unit.
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