Some monitors walked into a bar and ,,,

These are two monitors I have been interested in as well.

Just hooked up dyns, nice too, I think more balanced they don’t sound as tight as the focal at first but the focal might be a tad tubby-where as the dyns certainly have more bass impact pushing more air but seem more open like you can hear more inside the mix: hmm feel like the dyns are winning me over

I’ll go back and forth need to get the dyns off the stand so the focal passive radiators are not impeded but I had listened to the focal 5.0 in the shop and thought they were a little smalll box tubby and the 6.5 seemed to have a bit of that too?

I think the focal high end a little more precise but the dyns are there just a little smoother

They are both really good , could work with either but think the dyns have more tambre.

The mid range in the dyn is voiced for voice and it brings a clarity and presence to those freq but it still sounds natural just present more so than 2 way monitors

I was really curious if the three way would do this not have the lower mid tubbiness and mid but both more bass and mid presence and if mated with a smooth tweeter just a better balanced fuller representation of the mix!

Yes, good advice:). I think the focal seem more precise, yet the dyns more natural. I’ll be back at auditioning tomorrow!

Not disagreeing with any of Jerome’s good insights, but I think these particular Dyn’s are extremely clear and revealing. I’ve never heard anything like them in their price range. Bad mixes sound like hell. Great ones sound like heaven. I can’t hear a ‘sound’ to the LYD 48s. They change immensely with whatever you put through them. I had five different opinions of them the first five reference mixes I played.

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Why the focal 50’s and not the 65’s? Just curious? When I demo’d The 50,65,80 alpha series, I liked the 50 the best personally. They just seemed a lot more open in the mids and top end.

Post them to photobucket or something and then post them here. You probably have your phone set to take enormous pics.

For me and what I do, I listen at low volumes when it comes crunch time. Sure I have it up some when I'm digging into the drums so I can feel the energy some, but that's really the only point in which I turn the dim button off. It seems to me, these days and the technology these boutique monitor companies have, the size of the low/low-mid woofer doesn't matter so much anymore. You can hear plenty of the low-end on the 50's, I'd imagine you can hear it on the smaller version too. The deal with mixing at low volumes and having a smaller driver is to me, it really translates that low-mid/mid(i'm reffering to this as the "critical range" from here out) range really well. Also something folks should remember with these speakers is they are a passive radiator design, and dual one at that (which I have to admit, seeing these radiators moving is pretty damn cool) and these monitors are going to sound a lot like sealed cab speakers. So many people hate NS-10's because they don't flatter in critical range to have an accurate picture of. To me if you just want a speaker that is 3D and wraps around you then there are a ton of options out there that will do that. And you don't need to spend a fortune for it either.

My Mackies for example, they're a passive radiator design, but they don't sound anything like the Shapes in the critical range. To me they sound more like a ported speaker, but with a shade more transient detail with things like the kick and snare. That is something else I forgot to mention about the sealed cab/passive radiator cab. Having an accurate picture of the transient detail is just as important as the critical range. If you've ever had a drum kit rocking on your monitors and then only to find when you get in the car they sound flat like they're nailed against a wall, it's likely because you were getting a false sense of the transient information. Smaller woofers and a sealed/passive radiator cabinet solves a lot of this problem. Again, they won't flatter you there, they will make you work really hard to get there, but when you listen to your mix on the way to the store you're not hugged in the fetal position pissed off all the work you'd just done sounds nothing like it did in your room.

Scratch that I see they do use a passive cone just had to dig deeper
I was wrong!

Taken with a grain of salt, as I am stlll dialing things in, learning the monitors and playing with the dsp and although my room is treated well aware of my room gremlins and I was worried the dyn's larger woofer would excite the room more not in a good way !

Although I was burning in the dyns all day just put the focal back up

They have stabilizing isolation metal feet built in so you can adjust, isolate and aim.

They have dsp too and a hpf on the back.  They seem a little more refined or I may just prefer their tweeter design and materials  I put the hpf at 45 and turned down woofer by 2 dB.

I thinking with their smaller woofer they are a little faster and clearer in the bass, kick is clearer.  The vocal doesn’t have the exact presence of the lyd’s but they have a mid range control so I’ll try raising that a bit and taking away a little more bass.

ya just put hpf up to 60 and raised bass volume back up to flat and raised mid range control by 2 db

The focals may suit my room a little better as that is their fundamental design premise: for smaller rooms.  I do like passive radiators as well.

More later.

I doubt that : anyway you could demo some?

Maybe..