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Post by indiehouse on Dec 7, 2017 18:35:04 GMT -6
Can someone give me the low down on how to direct monitor input before the DAW like UAD Console? It seems like Apogee doesn't want me to do this. I think I even read a FAQ where it that was almost literally written. Strange. Lowest latency I can get in PT is 64 samples. But not helpful if I'm overdubbing to a healthy mix where I got to jack that up to 1024 or higher. I'd much prefer to monitor directly off the Symphony MKII.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 7, 2017 19:44:19 GMT -6
In the I/O section, you have to change the inputs to analog 1 or whatever...I'll see if I can look and send a screen shot. That shit is still way more confusing than the UAD console.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 7, 2017 20:22:57 GMT -6
For your headphones, You have to switch from monitoring the playback 1-2 to selecting which ever mixer you are using probably I ?
Does that makes sense? Do you know how to find the drop down ?
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Post by ragan on Dec 7, 2017 21:14:05 GMT -6
Can someone give me the low down on how to direct monitor input before the DAW like UAD Console? It seems like Apogee doesn't want me to do this. I think I even read a FAQ where it that was almost literally written. Strange. Lowest latency I can get in PT is 64 samples. But not helpful if I'm overdubbing to a healthy mix where I got to jack that up to 1024 or higher. I'd much prefer to monitor directly off the Symphony MKII. You can totally do it, I only monitor through the Control app cause I hate hate hate latency. I’ll look at my settings. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 8, 2017 4:31:30 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 8, 2017 9:42:37 GMT -6
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 8, 2017 9:47:21 GMT -6
then it is like UA console, the front end to your daw: you can use the mixer to set cues, headphone mixes and fx etc.. remember to switch back to Playback for not tracking monitoring  |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 8, 2017 10:35:10 GMT -6
then it is like UA console, the front end to your daw: you can use the mixer to set cues, headphone mixes and fx etc.. remember to switch back to Playback for not tracking monitoring Wait, so I can't monitor playback from my DAW while direct monitoring my tracking channel through the Symphony? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 8, 2017 11:16:59 GMT -6
then it is like UA console, the front end to your daw: you can use the mixer to set cues, headphone mixes and fx etc.. remember to switch back to Playback for not tracking monitoring Wait, so I can't monitor playback from my DAW while direct monitoring my tracking channel through the Symphony? I do. I’m out of town so can’t look but remind me Saturday night. I use Hearback for headphones and it’s connected optical...I’ll just have to look. I set it and haven’t had to change anything. |
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Post by ragan on Dec 8, 2017 11:45:17 GMT -6
then it is like UA console, the front end to your daw: you can use the mixer to set cues, headphone mixes and fx etc.. remember to switch back to Playback for not tracking monitoring Wait, so I can't monitor playback from my DAW while direct monitoring my tracking channel through the Symphony? No you can. Once you get the outputs of the Control app and set up, it's just like UAD Console. I'll go look at mine. Been swamped and not in the studio. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 8, 2017 12:20:39 GMT -6
Ya it will work out. I do it every tracking session. The daw output comes through the mixer on two ganged channels ( its always 1/2), so you just set the relative levels of your tracking signal and the monitor signal in the mixer.
Seems weird at first coming from UA console but its really the same principle as Console, just the gui is different.
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Post by ragan on Dec 8, 2017 13:30:09 GMT -6
Here's what Control looks like for me (monitoring the track I'm doing with Control and listening to Pro Tools playback). Attachments:
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 8, 2017 15:22:07 GMT -6
ya similar for me using logic, but I scrolled over to right hand side so you can see the daw stereo mix playing back ? so adjusting master fader adjust all volume and you can use the mixer faders to set the cue mix the way you want  |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 10, 2017 8:48:33 GMT -6
Ok, so I figured out how to monitor direct input and monitor DAW playback. Wowsers. That's way more convoluted than it needed to be. Apogee should take a cue from UAD in that department.
So then, I'm trying to route analog outs to the Analog ins of my Hearback. Let's say I'm trying to take mix view 2 out of Analog outs 3-4 into Analog ins of 1-2 on the Hearback. How do I do this? Or even, how do I route my direct mic in to an analog out without going through the DAW?
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Post by swurveman on Dec 10, 2017 9:38:49 GMT -6
Ok, so I figured out how to monitor direct input and monitor DAW playback. Wowsers. That's way more convoluted than it needed to be. Apogee should take a cue from UAD in that department. So then, I'm trying to route analog outs to the Analog ins of my Hearback. Let's say I'm trying to take mix view 2 out of Analog outs 3-4 into Analog ins of 1-2 on the Hearback. How do I do this? Or even, how do I route my direct mic in to an analog out without going through the DAW? I'm surprised there isn't some kind of video to explain this. I use RME's Totalmix and RME did a good job of explaining the mixer and how to route signals. I will say this though: This is the greatest advantage of Pro Tools HD systems. All of this can be done without ever leaving the DAW. It wasn't worth the price. So, I-like many others-have to toggle between my DAW software and these routing mixers. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 10, 2017 11:16:14 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 11, 2017 12:25:05 GMT -6
It almost makes me wanna go back to the BF Apollo 16. I'm reading the manual now (finding lot's of typos, btw). So, SPDIF only replaces analog ins and only mirrors analog outs? It's not "in addition" to my 16 ins/outs? That's just dumb. My AES on the Apollo was 2 extra channels. kcatthedog , ragan , @johnkenn you guys have any issues with your power button? I cycle my power by turning on the Furman, then the Symphony, then the mac. However, when I press the power button for the Symphony, I get a brief fan whir and that's it. I usually have to press it 2 or 3 times before it boots up. Is this normal? |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 11, 2017 12:30:03 GMT -6
Also, when your using the touchscreen to focus on the headphone volume or speaker volume, I usually have to tap each 2 or 3 times before it will switch. Is that normal?
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Post by ragan on Dec 11, 2017 12:31:25 GMT -6
It almost makes me wanna go back to the BF Apollo 16. I'm reading the manual now (finding lot's of typos, btw). So, SPDIF only replaces analog ins and only mirrors analog outs? It's not "in addition" to my 16 ins/outs? That's just dumb. My AES on the Apollo was 2 extra channels. kcatthedog , ragan , @johnkenn you guys have any issues with your power button? I cycle my power by turning on the Furman, then the Symphony, then the mac. However, when I press the power button for the Symphony, I get a brief fan whir and that's it. I usually have to press it 2 or 3 times before it boots up. Is this normal? I have occasionally pressed it a little lightly (I guess) and had it do nothing and then on a second former press, it powers up as usual. But no, I’ve never had what you’re describing. On those occasions where it doesn’t register the button pressing, nothing happens, and when the press registers, it just turns on as usual. And I’ve just been making sure it’s presssed (relatively) firmly so I don’t get the false press thing. Grab one of those support txt windows and ask Apogee about it. It’s always been a fast response for me. |
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Post by ragan on Dec 11, 2017 12:32:14 GMT -6
Also, when your using the touchscreen to focus on the headphone volume or speaker volume, I usually have to tap each 2 or 3 times before it will switch. Is that normal? I have had this. Not “usually” but I have had it. The touchscreen takes a bit of a firm press too in my experience. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 11, 2017 15:13:49 GMT -6
No probs with power up
I use cans or monitors not both, firm press on TS does the trick here
Ditto Ragan, use on site support pop up, had great support here and they can remote in if need be?
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Dec 11, 2017 16:20:46 GMT -6
my MK1 has a similar problem. I just don't turn it off anymore. Apogee Tech support said it sounded like the PSU was failing. my MK1 is probably 6 years old. Stuff breaks down, what can I say.
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Post by bradd on Dec 11, 2017 17:03:16 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, but I never mess with Maestro. When tracking, I use low latency mode in Logic and have never had any problems with latency.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 11, 2017 17:24:51 GMT -6
Maestro was replaced by the control app for Symphony MkII users, monitoring through its mixer gives lowest latency.
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 11, 2017 18:57:53 GMT -6
Maybe I'm missing something, but I never mess with Maestro. When tracking, I use low latency mode in Logic and have never had any problems with latency. Yeah, but if you're overdubbing to a mix that's got some processing, you gotta increase delay comp which increases latency. Me no likey latency. |
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