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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 24, 2017 2:21:09 GMT -6
I am almost exclusively using the Soundtoys Little Plate for reverb now. That EMT140 plate sound seems to work real well for Rock and Metal. I tried that Relab VSR S24 that's on sale for $139 and didn't feel like I needed all that customization. Little Plate is a little richer and more dynamically consistent than SHP. Maybe for other things I'd find SHP or something else more useful. I also went back and tried TSAR-1, LX480, and some others and liked Little Plate best every time. This Museq that's on sale for $29 has a killer preset called punchy mix. Plays well as the insert before the Dangerous BAX and Peak Rider 2. I stumbled onto Peak Rider 2 when uninstalling some stuff. Guess I never spent a lot of time with the demo because it hisses loud white noise every 5 seconds. On the default settings it cleans up the mix a lot. It's $75 on sale. If Boz Big Beautiful Door goes on sale, that also does some really cool noise clean up and dynamics stuff. Been toying with it for a couple days. Kush is having a sale, but it's not that great. Novatron is $115 and a lot of the others are priced around that high too. I'd get Novatron but I'm going to opt for Cranesong Phoenix. Fix Phaser is really good and $66 at everyplugin. There aren't a lot of mind-blowing plugin deals at the moment, although I'm sure there's some cheap Waves stuff.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 24, 2017 7:28:15 GMT -6
Liquidsoncis is selling its bricasti m7 verbs.
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Post by terryrocks on Nov 24, 2017 11:57:20 GMT -6
Proaudiostar cannot beat ANY offer. I tried to get them to at least match 8th St Music’s 20% off and the best they could do was 12%. Lame
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Post by ragan on Nov 24, 2017 12:10:43 GMT -6
Oh weird.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 24, 2017 13:33:05 GMT -6
GLS is 15% off.
Seismic Audio is 10-20%, depending on how much you spend.
Monoprice is 20% off.
Senny 421 is $279 at Sweetwater.
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Post by rob61 on Nov 24, 2017 13:54:49 GMT -6
Liquidsoncis is selling its bricasti m7 verbs. Free download for those using Reverberate!
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Post by bluegrassdan on Nov 25, 2017 12:31:12 GMT -6
Hey guys! I am offering $100 off the introductory price of my preamps now through Monday! You'll never get this deal again. That's just $1,899.99 and you can make two payments of $900 and $999.99. www.dansmusiconline.com/pro-audio
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 11:11:20 GMT -6
LiquidSonics Seventh Heaven is 60% off right now. $179 versus $299. I'm still on the fence about whether I need this. I already have so many great reverbs. But it is a good price. If you do get it, all your other reverbs will start collecting digital dust... It's so good it's almost like cheating! Watch a few Bricasti demos, and then think that this plugin gets you about 90% there. If I already have UAD (OWS, BX20, EMT 140, Lex 224, Realverb), Eventide T-Verb, Valhalla Room, Waves Trueverb and some others that I'm probably forgetting, is Seventh Heaven still really going to offer me much over and above what I already have? I suppose I have a decision to make pretty quick while Seventh Heaven is still on sale.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 26, 2017 11:47:20 GMT -6
Do check out this video starting around 9:30: See how Casey (Bricasti's designer) adds reverb to a whole mix, including the bass. That demo sold me! The Studio B Close preset is amazing on anything. I even prefer it to recording my own drum room mics.
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 12:02:14 GMT -6
Do check out this video starting around 9:30: See how Casey (Bricasti's designer) adds reverb to a whole mix, including the bass. That demo sold me! The Studio B Close preset is amazing on anything. I even prefer it to recording my own drum room mics. But that's the actual Bricasti, not 7th Heaven. How close is Seventh Heaven to the Bricasti? I assume SH has the same preset you're referencing? Does the non-pro version of SH also have that preset? I'm on the fence about whether I should get the basic or the pro?
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 26, 2017 12:11:34 GMT -6
It does have the same presets, yes. I haven't used the real Bricasti, I'm going by forum hearsay and by the statements from the SH developer. He's always said that it gets you very close, but the Bricasti is still another extra step in quality. I do have a friend that owns one, so eventually I'll be able to shoot them out.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 26, 2017 12:14:52 GMT -6
Quint I just bought pro let me check if I can sell the basic, if you want. I have had most of the verbs you reference, i’d say 7thH is different with the mysterious nice presence of relab but cleaner or clearer : hard to describe
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 12:21:10 GMT -6
Quint I just bought pro let me check if I can sell the basic, if you want. I have had most of the verbs you reference, i’d say 7thH is different with the mysterious nice presence of relab but cleaner or clearer : hard to describe The sale price on basic isn't that much right now. But then there's always the idea of what you're missing out on by not going with the pro version. The savings with the sale on pro right now are pretty good. I hate to pass it up if I would end up going that way anyway. I'm just not sure if I need the pro OR basic. I already have so many reverbs. Is the SH really that much better? Now that you've bought the pro version, how do you feel it stacks up against the basic version? I feel like, if I'm going to buy SH, I'd probably just go ahead and buy the pro version.
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Post by rob61 on Nov 26, 2017 12:21:23 GMT -6
If you don't want to pop for Seventh Heaven, you can grab Reberberate 2.2 right now for $75, and the M7 IRs downloads for it are free. Let's say it gets you at least 90% there. Bricasti is $3950, Reverberate 2.2 with M7 presets will cost you $75. You'll have to pony up a lot of $$$ for that extra (most likely less than) 10%. How serious are you? How many clients do you have willing to pay the big bucks? These are valid questions in today's market.
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 12:24:55 GMT -6
If you don't want to pop for Seventh Heaven, you can grab Reberberate 2.2 right now for $75, and the M7 IRs downloads for it are free. Let's say it gets you at least 90% there. Bricasti is $3950, Reverberate 2.2 with M7 presets will cost you $75. You'll have to pony up a lot of $$$ for that extra (most likely less than) 10%. How serious are you? How many clients do you have willing to pay the big bucks? These are valid questions in today's market. Yeah, plugins and cheap outboard units for reverb are all I'm willing to do. $4000 for two channels of reverb is way too rich for my blood. I'd like to hear the M7 one of these days though.
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 12:30:03 GMT -6
How is the plate emulation on the Bricasti/Seventh Heaven? I had also been considering buying the Acqua Ebony for its plate. Not that I don't like the UAD EMT 140, but I've been wanting another plate option.
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 26, 2017 12:35:47 GMT -6
How is the plate emulation on the Bricasti/Seventh Heaven? I had also been considering buying the Acqua Ebony for its plate. Not that I don't like the UAD EMT 140, but I've been wanting another plate option. Get the free Soundtoys plate while it lasts! I am using some of the SH plate presets and I like them alright, but for plate sounds I'm in love with the Abbey Road plates. They are very different!
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Post by Quint on Nov 26, 2017 12:39:07 GMT -6
How is the plate emulation on the Bricasti/Seventh Heaven? I had also been considering buying the Acqua Ebony for its plate. Not that I don't like the UAD EMT 140, but I've been wanting another plate option. Get the free Soundtoys plate while it lasts! I am using some of the SH plate presets and I like them alright, but for plate sounds I'm in love with the Abbey Road plates. They are very different! Oh yeah, I forgot that I also have the Soundtoys played as well. I haven't had time to dig into it though. I guess Ebony interested me because I've been impressed with the sound quality of the latest Acqua plugins and Ebony also came with a pretty unique channel strip from an EMT console in addition to the plate itself.
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Post by rob61 on Nov 26, 2017 12:59:08 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Nov 26, 2017 13:34:49 GMT -6
If you don't want to pop for Seventh Heaven, you can grab Reberberate 2.2 right now for $75, and the M7 IRs downloads for it are free. Let's say it gets you at least 90% there. Bricasti is $3950, Reverberate 2.2 with M7 presets will cost you $75. You'll have to pony up a lot of $$$ for that extra (most likely less than) 10%. How serious are you? How many clients do you have willing to pay the big bucks? These are valid questions in today's market. It took me about 30 seconds to A/B between the Bricasti IR's and the real deal to pop for an actual M7. It was not anywhere close to a 90% situation from my perspective. Any more than a picture is a substitute for a real sunset. I'd say 60/40 at best. (although I was using TL space) There's a REASON that Casey allows these to be distributed for free. He knows that it shows only a glimpse of what the real deal will do, and when people have the opportunity to A/B between the IR's and an actual unit, if they have the $$$, it's a no brainer.
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Post by drbill on Nov 26, 2017 13:36:13 GMT -6
OK. I did it. Ordered a pair. We'll see how they shake out...... Will probably have either Brad or Dan mod the HF on these....
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 26, 2017 13:54:03 GMT -6
It took me about 30 seconds to A/B between the Bricasti IR's and the real deal to pop for an actual M7. It was not anywhere close to a 90% situation from my perspective. Any more than a picture is a substitute for a real sunset. I'd say 60/40 at best. (although I was using TL space) There's a REASON that Casey allows these to be distributed for free. He knows that it shows only a glimpse of what the real deal will do, and when people have the opportunity to A/B between the IR's and an actual unit, if they have the $$$, it's a no brainer. Hey Bill, I totally agree with you on the free IR's that can be loaded in any convolution reverb plugin, I didn't like those at all. However, Liquidsonics has developed a specific technology they call Fusion IR that tremendously improves on that. Reverberate was already amazing, and Seventh Heaven is another step forward. I'll still get a hardware M7 eventually too, but this plugin does capture a lot of the magic.
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Post by rob61 on Nov 26, 2017 14:01:40 GMT -6
If you don't want to pop for Seventh Heaven, you can grab Reberberate 2.2 right now for $75, and the M7 IRs downloads for it are free. Let's say it gets you at least 90% there. Bricasti is $3950, Reverberate 2.2 with M7 presets will cost you $75. You'll have to pony up a lot of $$$ for that extra (most likely less than) 10%. How serious are you? How many clients do you have willing to pay the big bucks? These are valid questions in today's market. It took me about 30 seconds to A/B between the Bricasti IR's and the real deal to pop for an actual M7. It was not anywhere close to a 90% situation from my perspective. Any more than a picture is a substitute for a real sunset. I'd say 60/40 at best. (although I was using TL space) There's a REASON that Casey allows these to be distributed for free. He knows that it shows only a glimpse of what the real deal will do, and when people have the opportunity to A/B between the IR's and an actual unit, if they have the $$$, it's a no brainer. Yes indeed Bill. For those who can afford it, the Bricasti is a great piece. I still use my Lexicon 480L and appreciate it. But for those who can't afford the hardware, the plug ins are getting better and better, and those M7 IRs with a $75 plug in do a pretty nice job in a mix. But for the purist with the $$$ to spend, the hardware still offers a bump up.
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Post by drbill on Nov 26, 2017 14:09:47 GMT -6
It took me about 30 seconds to A/B between the Bricasti IR's and the real deal to pop for an actual M7. It was not anywhere close to a 90% situation from my perspective. Any more than a picture is a substitute for a real sunset. I'd say 60/40 at best. (although I was using TL space) There's a REASON that Casey allows these to be distributed for free. He knows that it shows only a glimpse of what the real deal will do, and when people have the opportunity to A/B between the IR's and an actual unit, if they have the $$$, it's a no brainer. Yes indeed Bill. For those who can afford it, the Bricasti is a great piece. I still use my Lexicon 480L and appreciate it. But for those who can't afford the hardware, the plug ins are getting better and better, and those M7 IRs with a $75 plug in do a pretty nice job in a mix. But for the purist with the $$$ to spend, the hardware still offers a bump up. Agreed. It's the 90% that got me. IME, it's way more than a 10% bump up. I wouldn't have spent the $$$ if it was for a 10% increase. I'd guess you wouldn't be keeping your ticking time bomb (480L) if you didn't feel it offered only a 10% bump over the LexNative or LX480L packages. Using a verb plugin would be MUCH easier for me. It would be much cheaper too. What's not to like about that? Its the extra %% that the hardware brings.... I'd have sold all my vintage mics and bought VMS if "close" was good enough.
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Post by popmann on Nov 26, 2017 14:30:44 GMT -6
I might get the Mixbuss32c suite. I'm having fun with the demo this weekend. The mix process is much faster. The Polarity Optimizer actually improved the sound of some SD3 drum samples....ha....it only "gained" .5db volume but it sounded nicer and fuller. I want to support people trying to make audio engineering better and easier/quicker....their built in loopback testing resulted in sample accurate time stamps in 1min at the beginning of the demo...Logic's failure to do this properly is why I was even looking.
I guess I'll decide today if I care about the plug in suite or just getting the app. Their reverb and buss compressors don't outdo what I have....so, I'll demo their novel things--character plugs.
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