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Post by Guitar on Nov 18, 2017 10:19:05 GMT -6
I was just listening to an HD release, 24/96, of Grimes album "Art Angels."
I could swear to you the high end is sounding more smooth and analog than my usual low/standard sample rates.
Is this just the fact that my Clarett maybe has a better decimation filter at 96K and less to do with the audio bandwidth?
Or is that some part of it, too?
Just wondering how much is audio and how much is just the hardware itself at different settings.
By the way, I'm still going to continue my regular work at 48K.
I am just seeing a small possibility of listening to HD albums as a music fan.
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Post by EmRR on Nov 18, 2017 14:18:28 GMT -6
If it sounds better at that rate, you should experiment more with it and consider staying there. It may well sound better for a number or reasons, perceptible bandwidth not being one of them.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 18, 2017 15:05:28 GMT -6
If it sounds better at that rate, you should experiment more with it and consider staying there. It may well sound better for a number or reasons, perceptible bandwidth not being one of them. Thanks for the comment... I am going to put some thought into what you've suggested. |
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Post by jampa on Nov 18, 2017 15:26:33 GMT -6
Sorry in advance for the banal advice
Just do what sounds good
and from personal experience,
try not to think about it too much
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Post by adamjbrass on Nov 20, 2017 6:57:40 GMT -6
I actually had the same experience with the Focusrite. It just sounds nicer at higher sample rates. Less phase-shift in band with the Nyquist filter way higher up. Thats why the top is smooth. But its also nice and open sounding. They did a good job with these.
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Post by lcr on Nov 20, 2017 7:07:57 GMT -6
Not trying to sound sarcastic, but doesnt everything sound better at 96k? Ive been at 96k for some time now, mainly because of latency. I would never say lower rates sound bad, I think several of the plugins I reguraly use might sound a tad better at 96k. I know many people still work at lower sample rates and produce much better end results than mine at 96k. How does your interface sound at 192k?
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Post by Guitar on Nov 20, 2017 8:44:09 GMT -6
I haven't spent much time with 192... it just seems a little far-fetched to me. However, I do believe there are some small differences there as well, anecdotally speaking. I was running my UH-7000 at 192 for a short while and that's when I really got interested in these higher rates.
As a move of confidence I am going to go ahead and finish re-wiring my rig to run at 96K sample rates for a while and see how it goes.
This is actually helping me streamline my workflow and make my rig more sensible, concise, and less of an octopus monster. I think I'm actually going to free up some precious floor space by cleaning up the rack gear.
You are right about the latency too, that's going to be a big +1 for my direct guitar stuff.
I'm going to have 10 channels of Apollo for drums, 8 channels of Clarett I/O for hybrid mixing, and 2-4 channels of Tascam for vocals, guitar, bass, synths, etc.
Not sure if I'm going to introduce the summing rig or not... probably not.
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Post by EmRR on Nov 20, 2017 13:16:32 GMT -6
My older converters very noticeably sounded better at 88K2 and up. My current 16A doesn't have as drastic a shift, I don't feel like it's the same huge step down to go to 48 that I did before it came along. But 88K2 still sounds better, and over the course of an analog mix project with multiple conversions, it preserves the most information. The only times I've ever run up to 192K have been when testing equipment response range, and even that's rare. Were I attempting Plangent type recovery tricks with tape machine bias frequencies, it'd (or higher!) be required.
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Post by ericn on Nov 20, 2017 17:25:56 GMT -6
The Radar sounds better at 48 than the old HD192's sounded at any rate!
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Post by Guitar on Nov 20, 2017 17:28:55 GMT -6
I am really satisfied with what's happening in my room right now. Dare I say my digital audio experience is getting very near to surpassing my vinyl analog rig.
I'm excited to start tracking at 96. I've been listening a lot but I haven't had a chance to lay down any jams just yet.
I guess we are a bit spoiled compared to 10, 20 years ago. My poor little mid-end studio wouldn't have even been possible.
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Post by wiz on Nov 20, 2017 17:37:11 GMT -6
I had a apogee duet, sounded better at 96, a focusrite safire pro, sounded better at 96...which was all compared at after going down to 44.1k after mastering .....
My 16A doesn't really matter
cheers
Wiz
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