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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 17:07:40 GMT -6
Steven, Don't some mics/pres offer a perceived compression, along with harmonics and saturation, especially when tubes are involved? Was that or what were the greatest challenges? How long had you thought about this before you and the team found a way?
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Post by lolo on Jan 20, 2014 17:29:42 GMT -6
Loving and using all the Slate plugs.
This. Not sure.
Still reckon i'll send my CV4 to Shannon first
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Post by lolo on Jan 20, 2014 17:32:48 GMT -6
Sorry for off topic, but PLEASE release Virtual mix rack
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 20, 2014 17:34:46 GMT -6
I just know we've been promised "game changer" sooooo many times before...It's like Ole Miss football for me - I start to believe, then they break my heart... Trying to get Ashley from Slate to comment... "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in..." I think this Slate idea has merit and will surely sell thousands of units on spec whether it's worth a shit or not. So many people dream of having the big mics. And I think it will work because they modeled the software around their OWN hardware. No way in hell this would work if that wasn't the case. Just too many variables. But my guess is, this thing will sound good. Real good but not exactly like a vintage mic. I HOPE I'm wrong about that. Either way, welcome to the board Steven.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 20, 2014 18:20:39 GMT -6
Yeah - selling all the hardware is the only way to really control everything...if it is around $2k, it might be worth it even if it doesn't sound exactly like the real thing. The question is, does it sound good? Also, I do this for a living - and I only have one main vocal mic! So the ability to switch the mic around after recording it is very interesting to me...
Steven - didn't I see you could do that?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 20, 2014 18:45:13 GMT -6
Since this is dedicated hardware ala the old PT/Box systems, I'm curious to how the software licensing will be handled with this. Will the software be free to download but only work with the unit? Resale is why I'm curious. I mean, would you have to sell and transfer your software license to sell the hardware?
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Post by Ward on Jan 20, 2014 19:22:26 GMT -6
Welcome Steven. Your technological developments and advancements in the products we rely on are most welcome. I look forward to your sharing insight and news of coming products.
Will the mic modeling platform allow for third party development where a crafty programmer could introduce a a model or preset for another microphone you have not modeled yet, or will it be all kept in-house?
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Post by matt on Jan 20, 2014 20:38:24 GMT -6
The Interwebs are on fire over this. Particularly at the place with purplish flames. Gonna be interesting.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 20, 2014 20:45:13 GMT -6
God...I'd hate to read that thread...(ok, maybe I have...)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2014 20:46:40 GMT -6
This thing is going to be the greatest device ever. I know it. Someone buy my mics haha
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Post by popmann on Jan 20, 2014 20:53:50 GMT -6
Did Steven work for Roland like 15+ years ago when they made this box for their V-Studios? Hmm.
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Post by Ward on Jan 20, 2014 20:56:54 GMT -6
Imagine doing everything with these virtual microphones, you'd need about 10 of them doing a drum kit so you would be looking at a $20,000 investment. It would prove to be extremely interesting, however, because one could "change" microphones and preamps in the mixing stage. That would be AWESOME.
One thing that hasn't been covered yet, however, is how mic placement affects the ability of the system to perform. Is there a way to "reposition" the microphone in the mix??
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Post by LesC on Jan 20, 2014 20:59:54 GMT -6
Welcome Steven, really glad to see you here!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 20, 2014 22:19:27 GMT -6
Yes, children...Respect the manufacturer, please...
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Post by LesC on Jan 20, 2014 22:40:50 GMT -6
Steven, I have an idea which I'm hoping you'll consider.
Can the VMS hardware be detected and used to authorize all your plugins, instead of iLoc? iLoc could continue to be used for non-VMS users. This idea is used by Line 6, for example, to authorize their Pod Farm plugin based on detection of a hardware modeler.
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Post by watchtower on Jan 20, 2014 23:49:00 GMT -6
While I'm sure Steven would love everyone and their mother to buy 5 sets of these for $20k for recording drums, I'm sure that's not what they're expecting haha. I imagine in the future they'll redesign the system for use on a drum kit. Like an 8-channel pre/AD type of deal for a big savings once the R&D costs have been covered on these two-channel units.
Man, just imagine having a 451EB, KM84, and MD409 all in that little ML2. I bet that one comes with a preset mic model of SM57 taped to a 451 for snare duties.
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Post by keymod on Jan 21, 2014 5:20:41 GMT -6
Antares had a mic-modeler hardware box out some time ago, but it never really caught on. Anyone here ever see/try that unit? Of course technology has come a long way since then and, knowing how Slate's team has achieved success in their other endeavors, this may get very close.
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Post by henge on Jan 21, 2014 6:44:58 GMT -6
Antares had a mic-modeler hardware box out some time ago, but it never really caught on. Anyone here ever see/try that unit? Of course technology has come a long way since then and, knowing how Slate's team has achieved success in their other endeavors, this may get very close. I don't think they're comparable. Antares never had a capture mechanism that their algos then converted. If this delivers I'm the perfect customer for this. Love the way this company thinks!;-)
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2014 7:21:04 GMT -6
God...I'd hate to read that thread...(ok, maybe I have...) Actually, there is a generally positive spin over there. It is obvious that his products are well-liked, for the most part. I even see moments where acts of rampant courtesy have broken out. Amazing.
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2014 7:31:24 GMT -6
IMHO, Antares and Liquid Channel (especially) were products before their time, conceived at a time when computing power and algorithms were not quite advanced enough to pull off the idea (accurate emulation of hardware in software). Now, a tipping point appears to have been reached. Lucky us.
My friends, we may be entering a golden age of studio technology, one where hardware and software are melded together into an inseparable whole to deliver astounding products.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 21, 2014 8:05:14 GMT -6
Haven't seen the video yet or any info other than this thread, but this sounds kind of like the Kemper of microphones.
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Post by Ward on Jan 21, 2014 9:38:51 GMT -6
Haven't seen the video yet or any info other than this thread, but this sounds kind of like the Kemper of microphones. That is the general consensus! But can you manipulate the Kemper in the mix?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 13:12:36 GMT -6
Although this, and it's like, are inevitable, I just find it depressing. I do not like the 'virtualisation' of anything. Indistinguishable or not, it will never be real. I prefer the romance and the soul.
I thought this forum was called REAL gear.
So fed up of reading Steven Slates endless marketing campaign on 'the other site'. Sincerely hope he doesn't set up his stall over here.
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Post by sozocaps on Jan 21, 2014 14:01:22 GMT -6
I'm sure the mic and pre are good to begin with.... That being said, I could hear the difference in the bottom , sibilance , and in the articulation even with his screaming, wonder how it will be with a real singer ?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 21, 2014 14:03:46 GMT -6
...and the youtube compression.
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