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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 28, 2017 5:31:06 GMT -6
I was mixing my session and now I get no sound from my 2 lead vocal track: I can see the wav files, there is no automation, set to read, going to stereo output?
Any ideas ?
Thx ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 28, 2017 8:01:52 GMT -6
Ok, I’ll admit to working hard on this mix but the numbnutz award probably goes to me for not noticing my master volume had tanked: sheesh, who hired this guy ??  |
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Post by M57 on Oct 28, 2017 9:29:55 GMT -6
Sometime's you need to re-boot the program, sometimes your machine, sometimes your brain.
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Post by spindrift on Oct 28, 2017 10:44:10 GMT -6
I’ve solved many a problem with a good night’s sleep. Coming back to things after a break from it can really do wonders sometimes. Glad you got it solved!
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Post by hasbeen on Oct 28, 2017 17:49:50 GMT -6
I use Logic all the time, but I can't really understand what you are trying to explain.
How can your master volume 'tank'?
What ended up happening, did you figure it all out?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 28, 2017 18:04:41 GMT -6
a Track that were playing , suddenly I couldn’t hear but could see the wave file. I hadn’t adjusted the master volume fader but it was all the way down. Of course, when I raised it I heard things fine.
I had no automation on so I still don’t know why the fader went to zero but all good now !
Thx!
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Post by hasbeen on Oct 28, 2017 18:07:31 GMT -6
a Track that were playing , suddenly I couldn’t hear but could see the wave file. I hadn’t adjusted the master volume fader but it was all the way down. Of course, when I raised it I heard things fine. I had no automation on so I still don’t know why the fader went to zero but all good now ! Thx! Love it! Believe me I've had my share of these things. Even a similar experience except my problem was the mute button... |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2017 20:01:06 GMT -6
Sometimes I move a mouse suddenly and somethings happened, but I don't know what I did. But sometimes there's an answer, but it's not easy to find. A not so old template's sends weren't working, which drove me mad for thirty minutes. So I had to create a new one.
Then when I went to comp, I was hearing two tracks overlap. Turned out that the fades being created to comp were too big and in settings, there's an adjustment. So now it's fine again, but that never happened before, and I've used Logic exclusively for quite some time now.
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Post by M57 on Oct 29, 2017 5:13:58 GMT -6
It happens pretty rarely, but the only bug I have with Logic these days is drop-out related. It's usually about 500 milliseconds long and it tends to happen after I've moved or dragged take to a different track (or a copy of a track). I've checked things like mute automation (which is what it sounds like). Sometimes nudging it a few milliseconds left or right seems to fix it - sometimes adjusting the fade in or fade out works. Sometimes bouncing the mix off-line does the trick. Sometimes nothing seems to work and I end up re-recording. What's weird is once the problem happens on a project, it seems to happen in a couple places. I'm pretty sure it's not me but you never know with these things.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 29, 2017 7:30:02 GMT -6
I've never had a dropout, but this I know for sure, Flex Pitch creates artifacts because when a note rises or falls, it automatically chops it into pieces so you can adjust pitch. In doing that, it creates a pop or scratchy sound, rendering it useless, and sometimes, going back to the original part leaves the artifact anyway.
This has driven me nuts at times, ruining tracks, and leaving me with a choice of leaving it and suffering it forever, or redoing a vocal, which risks losing the better performance. I usually copy the main vocal track so that if I need it, it's there. I have many songs where cut the original offending glitch out, and inserted the copied piece. It typically needs some adjusting of levels to try to match the main vocal track, which can be tricky.
I don't have Melodyne, but I do have Waves Tune, which also sucks. I'll eventually get Melodyne, but I keep hoping one of Apple's updates fixes this once and for all.
I barely use pitch correction, but sometimes one or two words jump out because they're sharp or flat, and bringing them just a little closer to pitch allows me to use the whole track.
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Post by adamjbrass on Oct 29, 2017 9:39:46 GMT -6
Sometimes, its just a fader all the way down. This is the most common ghost in the machine, by far.
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Post by wiz on Oct 29, 2017 15:13:48 GMT -6
I've never had a dropout, but this I know for sure, Flex Pitch creates artifacts because when a note rises or falls, it automatically chops it into pieces so you can adjust pitch. In doing that, it creates a pop or scratchy sound, rendering it useless, and sometimes, going back to the original part leaves the artifact anyway. This has driven me nuts at times, ruining tracks, and leaving me with a choice of leaving it and suffering it forever, or redoing a vocal, which risks losing the better performance. I usually copy the main vocal track so that if I need it, it's there. I have many songs where cut the original offending glitch out, and inserted the copied piece. It typically needs some adjusting of levels to try to match the main vocal track, which can be tricky. I don't have Melodyne, but I do have Waves Tune, which also sucks. I'll eventually get Melodyne, but I keep hoping one of Apple's updates fixes this once and for all. I barely use pitch correction, but sometimes one or two words jump out because they're sharp or flat, and bringing them just a little closer to pitch allows me to use the whole track. I have never had this problem..... Send me a project that has this issue and I will have a look if you like cheers Wiz |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 29, 2017 15:38:30 GMT -6
Really? Yikes, I've had it on EVERY track I've ever used Flex pitch on. In fact, I'm afraid to use it for fear of corrupting the track itself. I'll send you a track that'll show it.
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Post by wiz on Oct 29, 2017 16:06:24 GMT -6
I would go further and say, compared to Auto Tune, and Melodyne, (both of which I have owned and had extensive experience with) Logics Flex pitch is the easiest and best outcome for me
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Ward on Oct 30, 2017 6:23:52 GMT -6
Similar things happen in Pro Tools also. I can load in a blank template, add all the tracks I want and certain 'channels' just go to zero volume without any automation. You reset and they still go back, so I make a new channel and move the waveform to that channel and start over.
It is annoying, but not as bad as a failed card in a tape machine.
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Post by lcr on Oct 31, 2017 3:00:23 GMT -6
Its probably a setting on one or 47 of the 1,278 mixer/view/settings pages. Sorry, have I ever mentioned Logic confuses me? I own Logic X and think the synths and plugins sound fantastic. I wish I could use them in Studio One and PT. Joking aside, I sincerly hope you figure it out.
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Post by formatcyes on Oct 31, 2017 3:38:13 GMT -6
Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2017 5:31:42 GMT -6
What,I have to turn my computer on for it to work properly: who knew ? Seriously, I was thinking, what if we ask Johnken to create a DAW sub category here and then we could create dedicated threads by DAW: Logic, Pro tools, Reason etc.. So, then we could post specific DAW questions and or advice, resolution, workarounds by DAW type. What do you think: good idea and JK should get on that ASAP, instead of watching football ? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2017 5:38:05 GMT -6
I think what triggered this is getting system overload messages?
I upgraded to High Sierra and although things mostly work, there seem to be some little bugs in Logic. For example, anything to do with opening , closing , saving a file, takes longer to open and I see the spinning beach ball for a few seconds. That never happen with Sierra. I notice too some clips seem to be oddly moved around and or truncated so I am having to go in and edit and I know I didn't record them that way.
What do Logic users do for file management, i.e., getting rid of old takes etc., to reduce the size of the session and remove extraneous things ?
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Post by M57 on Oct 31, 2017 6:42:30 GMT -6
Its probably a setting on one or 47 of the 1,278 mixer/view/settings pages. Sorry, have I ever mentioned Logic confuses me? I own Logic X and think the synths and plugins sound fantastic. I wish I could use them in Studio One and PT. Joking aside, I sincerly hope you figure it out. Funny, I'm just the opposite.. PT confused me. I switched to Logic and it just makes sense. The one thing that I missed that came with PT was the Expand2 synth, which I think sounds fantastic. Just the other day I picked it up for FREE through dontcrack.com - Couldn't believe it! |
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Post by M57 on Oct 31, 2017 6:44:48 GMT -6
What do Logic users do for file management, i.e., getting rid of old takes etc., to reduce the size of the session and remove extraneous things ? Good question, my Logic folders are admittedly a mess. I have to admit that I don't save what they call "alternate" versions partly cause I'm not sure how the files are managed between versions. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2017 7:18:38 GMT -6
There is a drop down selection there for cleaning up stuff, which I have done but I don't know how extensive it actually is ? I am going top check out those features and see what they do.
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Post by M57 on Oct 31, 2017 7:22:13 GMT -6
There is a drop down selection there for cleaning up stuff, which I have done but I don't know how extensive it actually is ? I am going top check out those features and see what they do. I've played with that here and there. Not sure how effective it is, though I'm talking more about saving different mixes.. I've got folders in folders in folders, which makes sense to me, but navigation is a pain. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2017 8:06:24 GMT -6
Understood but if you just saved as name. 1, .2, .3, they would all line up chronologically in sequence ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 31, 2017 8:10:35 GMT -6
file management
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