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Post by veggieryan on Oct 24, 2017 3:20:24 GMT -6
My friend just got one of these and I am intrigued. I have always wondered why there have been relatively few radical innovations to capsule design over the past few decades. Basically, they claim this triangular membrane resonates less than a traditional circular membrane and is thus more transparent and accurate with less background noise. They claim 7-87,000 Hz bandwidth and totally unique circuitry in the mic body. Price is reasonable. I'm thinking it will at least be a great mic for the mid position during mid/side recording of my acoustic guitars. www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ehrlund-ehr-mehrlund.se/project/ehr-m/technical explanation: Sounds pretty sweet here despite being driven by built in interface preamps : another: another with higher end signal chain:
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Post by rowmat on Oct 24, 2017 3:39:49 GMT -6
Bock produce a mic with an elliptical capsule.
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Post by veggieryan on Oct 24, 2017 3:50:08 GMT -6
Bock produce a mic with an elliptical capsule. aaaaaaaand it's only $7,500 bucks... compared to around $1,650 for the Ehrlund M which isn't a tube mic but hey, maybe it has its own magic and I can get tube vibe with my tube preamp?
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Post by unit7 on Oct 24, 2017 5:13:55 GMT -6
Since it's from Sweden and I've heard about it for a long time during development and all I guess I should say something. When I first heard one of his prototypes I wasn't impressed. But he got it out to all the major cats and studios here and got feedback and worked hard to improve. Then when this was released many studios bought it and swears by it. I've not been bitten by the bug yet but think it sounds just fine. I've used on drum overs with good results. I've also toured like 100 gigs since last year with Sweden's most prominent drummer (Per Lindvall, who btw as very young played on the late ABBA stuff) who uses it live for his own monitoring, a pair placed just above his head, only routed to the musicians monitoring, giving a pleasant picture of he whole kit except the kick, so that's what I listened to too, and it always sounds great. But Per's sound (tuning and timing) is out of this world so it's hard to tell what is what. But still, he must be the most recorded musician in Sweden and he chose these so that's a testimonial I guess..
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Post by adamjbrass on Oct 24, 2017 7:01:22 GMT -6
I have a client with one of these mics and I had a chance to use it on a session. I thought it was extremely nice and airy and bright in a musical way. Its very insanely open, and clear
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Post by EmRR on Oct 24, 2017 7:47:03 GMT -6
Interesting. Reminds me of the Audio Technica with square capsule(s?), which I don't recall any discussion about. Anyway, multiple square capsules out there. Milab has always had square capsule mic I think, possibly Pearl too? Can't think of another triangular.
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Post by svart on Oct 24, 2017 8:47:00 GMT -6
There have been multiple companies over the years that have made elliptical, square, rectangular, and other odd shapes in an effort to "fix" supposed issues with mics.. Most of them were small companies that went under, and/or big companies that have bought/stolen those designs and tried to do something with them.
Yet none of them have taken over the industry..
Not that I don't appreciate new takes on old technology, but sometimes marketing tends to "find" issues that nobody really thought were issues until they're told they are issues..
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Post by rowmat on Oct 24, 2017 12:33:22 GMT -6
Bock produce a mic with an elliptical capsule. aaaaaaaand it's only $7,500 bucks... compared to around $1,650 for the Ehrlund M which isn't a tube mic but hey, maybe it has its own magic and I can get tube vibe with my tube preamp? That's probably why I didn't buy it a bought a used Bock 251 instead.
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Post by jampa on Oct 24, 2017 22:27:55 GMT -6
I really want a couple for drums
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Post by rowmat on Oct 25, 2017 14:08:36 GMT -6
I dunno but in the second video clip with the dobro the Ehrlund sounded quite a bit louder than the other mics to my ears.
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Post by jampa on Oct 25, 2017 23:17:12 GMT -6
Some of their videos aren't as well produced as they could be
Here's a full complement on drums
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Post by iamasound on Oct 26, 2017 10:52:48 GMT -6
My friend just got one of these and I am intrigued. I have always wondered why there have been relatively few radical innovations to capsule design over the past few decades. Basically, they claim this triangular membrane resonates less than a traditional circular membrane and is thus more transparent and accurate with less background noise. They claim 7-87,000 Hz bandwidth and totally unique circuitry in the mic body. Price is reasonable. I'm thinking it will at least be a great mic for the mid position during mid/side recording of my acoustic guitars. www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ehrlund-ehr-mehrlund.se/project/ehr-m/technical explanation: Sounds pretty sweet here despite being driven by built in interface preamps : another: another with higher end signal chain: The Jesper Lindell and First Aid video was stunningly beautiful to me. The performance had most to do with it, but the mics did sound stellar which only added to the wonderful song, players and embracing, tactile emotionally churning mix. Do you know what was the signal chain?
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Post by askomiko on Dec 2, 2018 14:13:52 GMT -6
Any more users of Ehrlund mics? The shootout video with Stewart Copeland on drums gives so big difference between overhead mics it almost seems impossible:
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Post by jampa on Dec 2, 2018 18:00:55 GMT -6
I think a lot of their promotional videos have various technical problems which I don't think does them any favours.
So in the end I got an EHR-M. I love it. I want more.
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Post by adamjbrass on Dec 3, 2018 8:54:16 GMT -6
We have been testing the EHR-M a lot lately and it has a pretty interesting result. Its quite holographic and "tubey" without being a tube microphone! It find it hyper-dimensional and wider sounding than others. It's very, very detailed and fast. Like, Uber Fast. But surprisingly, it's never harsh, just ultra revealing. It sounds very natural and pleasing to my ears. It certainly reaches deep down into the floor and its very extended up top. But again, not in any ice pick peaking sort of way.
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Post by jampa on Dec 3, 2018 13:09:16 GMT -6
Yea I agree with everything said above - also has a healthy output and super low noise floor. I really want a pair now to try stereo micing and drum overheads with them.
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Post by sozocaps on Dec 3, 2018 14:59:41 GMT -6
Some of their videos aren't as well produced as they could be Here's a full complement on drums extremely real and transparent presentation of "drums" dunno what they sound like in the room but very realistic transients ...
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Post by svart on Dec 3, 2018 15:16:43 GMT -6
I forgot about this until it was brought up again..
If you look at their patent info (from 2008) you'll see that the diaphragm is still round, it just uses a triangular "port".
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Post by svart on Dec 3, 2018 15:20:44 GMT -6
Any more users of Ehrlund mics? The shootout video with Stewart Copeland on drums gives so big difference between overhead mics it almost seems impossible: That sounds very impossible.. I'm thinking the placements were not ideal for the others.
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Post by donr on Dec 3, 2018 21:17:49 GMT -6
In the dobro vid, the Ehrlunds sounded louder than the rest. I was impressed how good the SM7 sounded. I can see how you might want the sound of the Ehrlund M on some things. Sparkly is good.
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Post by ericn on Dec 4, 2018 7:53:56 GMT -6
In the dobro vid, the Ehrlunds sounded louder than the rest. I was impressed how good the SM7 sounded. I can see how you might want the sound of the Ehrlund M on some things. Sparkly is good. Yeah, it definitely puts a sparklers stamp on things it’s a great sounding mike and I wouldn’t mind one but it’s not a mic I would recommend as somebody’s one mic.
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Post by Ward on Dec 4, 2018 8:07:47 GMT -6
In the dobro vid, the Ehrlunds sounded louder than the rest. I was impressed how good the SM7 sounded. I can see how you might want the sound of the Ehrlund M on some things. Sparkly is good. Yeah, it definitely puts a sparklers stamp on things it’s a great sounding mike and I wouldn’t mind one but it’s not a mic I would recommend as somebody’s one mic. Gotta say, I am really impressed with how good the little ones sound on tom-toms
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Post by ericn on Dec 4, 2018 8:32:24 GMT -6
Yeah, it definitely puts a sparklers stamp on things it’s a great sounding mike and I wouldn’t mind one but it’s not a mic I would recommend as somebody’s one mic. Gotta say, I am really impressed with how good the little ones sound on tom-toms They have definitely brought us an interesting take on technology and a great sound to the table. Honestly between this one Omni8 and Chandler it’s a great time for different takes on the condenser mics that actually sound good! It kind of sucks to be broke and in search of new clients. In the past new mics have pretty much fallen into the New interesting tech, but not all that sonically impressive or clones of clones that gave the sound we were all heard before. Kind of sucks to no longer get to go to work and play with all the new mics.
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Post by sozocaps on Dec 4, 2018 11:54:31 GMT -6
Gotta say, I am really impressed with how good the little ones sound on tom-toms They have definitely brought us an interesting take on technology and a great sound to the table. Honestly between this one Omni8 and Chandler it’s a great time for different takes on the condenser mics that actually sound good! It kind of sucks to be broke and in search of new clients. In the past new mics have pretty much fallen into the New interesting tech, but not all that sonically impressive or clones of clones that gave the sound we were all heard before. Kind of sucks to no longer get to go to work and play with all the new mics. Agree... I'm kinda doing this with guitar amplifiers now. There are so many takes on the same old 12ax7 EL34, 6L6 build there is no sound with this left to discover. I have some good stuff up my sleeve. However, I do love my Shannon Rhodes boutique clones for how good they are and the color they impart... Lots of times you want the color to add character to the track or the larger then life thing a good tube mic can impart... Texture, Art, and vision... J...
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Post by jampa on Dec 5, 2018 3:26:28 GMT -6
I guess square capsules are similar conceptually? I don't mind the AT5040 at all. Haven't heard the newer version of it with the xfmr.
Yea that's the thing eric. I don't own any "money" mics but I've got all different types of tech covered!
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