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Post by stormymondays on Oct 4, 2017 13:56:14 GMT -6
I have a pair of Stager SR-2N that I'll finally be able to thoroughly test on drums tomorrow. Any suggestions on which kind of preamps go well together with them? API style vs Neve style? I understand that anything with transformers is supposed to be better with ribbon mics?
I did get me a pair of Crimson Audio Mogaines and they sound really good through them, better than going straight into the DAV preamps, which are transformerless. I suppose that once they are plugged into that box, the preamp that comes after that may not matter much. I will test the difference between going from the Mogaines into the DAV vs the Focusrite Clarett Octopre.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 4, 2017 15:42:13 GMT -6
You should hear that Integer mic pre. Super, super linear.
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 4, 2017 16:23:22 GMT -6
I'd really like to try the Coil Audio stuff with the Stager. Matt tells me it's a sweet match.
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Post by c0rtland on Oct 4, 2017 16:40:55 GMT -6
I have a pair of Stager SR-2N that I'll finally be able to thoroughly test on drums tomorrow. Any suggestions on which kind of preamps go well together with them? API style vs Neve style? I understand that anything with transformers is supposed to be better with ribbon mics? I did get me a pair of Crimson Audio Mogaines and they sound really good through them, better than going straight into the DAV preamps, which are transformerless. I suppose that once they are plugged into that box, the preamp that comes after that may not matter much. I will test the difference between going from the Mogaines into the DAV vs the Focusrite Clarett Octopre. which is funny because the aea trp is transformerless. Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by notneeson on Oct 4, 2017 18:21:17 GMT -6
I have had success with ribbons (m160, R84, various Royers) through various preamps from Neves to the AEA RPQ, the only issue is with my Spectra Sonics which are kind of low gain. Although, I feel like I've somehow never tried em with an API and now I really want to do that.
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Post by EmRR on Oct 4, 2017 20:08:41 GMT -6
Ribbons like my M160 and M130 sound noticeably better in the treble through input transformers in tube preamps than they do in something like a Sytek. Something like the Samar MF65 cares a lot less what it's plugged into.
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Post by notneeson on Oct 4, 2017 20:15:07 GMT -6
Sidebar:
Does the Mogaine have more personality than the Cloudlifter et al? I have a Cathedral Pipes Durham, and have no complaints.
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Post by stormymondays on Oct 5, 2017 15:10:22 GMT -6
The Mogaine does add "good stuff" to the tone, not just gain. Sounds great with an SM7B as well.
I put the pair on overheads, into the Mogaines and DAV. It sounded so good I didn't even do any more testing! I then opened them up with a nice 10k boost on my Retro 2A3. Incredible!!!
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Post by drbill on Oct 6, 2017 18:38:45 GMT -6
I have a pair of Stager SR-2N that I'll finally be able to thoroughly test on drums tomorrow. Any suggestions on which kind of preamps go well together with them? API style vs Neve style? I understand that anything with transformers is supposed to be better with ribbon mics? I did get me a pair of Crimson Audio Mogaines and they sound really good through them, better than going straight into the DAV preamps, which are transformerless. I suppose that once they are plugged into that box, the preamp that comes after that may not matter much. I will test the difference between going from the Mogaines into the DAV vs the Focusrite Clarett Octopre. which is funny because the aea trp is transformerless. Different strokes for different folks. Impedance becomes a major factor for ribbons and dynamics as much an issue as transformer vs transformer less.
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Post by EmRR on Oct 6, 2017 20:08:57 GMT -6
which is funny because the aea trp is transformerless. Different strokes for different folks. Impedance becomes a major factor for ribbons and dynamics as much an issue as transformer vs transformer less. Building out, transformerless has a linear impedance in the audio band, transformer does not. The transformer in the ribbon is also non-linear with respect to impedance. Sometimes double non-linear is your friend. In many cases old transformer input preamps have higher input impedance at higher frequencies, higher even than the modern transformerless 'ribbon pre's'.
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Post by c0rtland on Oct 6, 2017 20:52:10 GMT -6
Impedance becomes a major factor for ribbons and dynamics as much an issue as transformer vs transformer less. Building out, transformerless has a linear impedance in the audio band, transformer does not. The transformer in the ribbon is also non-linear with respect to impedance. Sometimes double non-linear is your friend. In many cases old transformer input preamps have higher input impedance at higher frequencies, higher even than the modern transformerless 'ribbon pre's'. I wish you would write a book.
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Post by EmRR on Oct 6, 2017 20:56:25 GMT -6
Books don't pay bills.
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Post by ericn on Oct 6, 2017 21:20:52 GMT -6
Ha but what dose these days?
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Post by adamjbrass on Oct 10, 2017 6:59:04 GMT -6
bills are good for bookmarks :-P
The Coil CA286 shoots the Stager out of the speakers!
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Post by Guitar on Oct 12, 2017 15:30:21 GMT -6
I've had good luck with CAPI stuff for my ribbons.
My drum ribbon pair are going through a generic Yamaha MLA-8 and sound pretty great.
I guess I haven't really focused on this idea specifically.
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