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Post by stormymondays on Sept 3, 2017 6:54:02 GMT -6
I'm thinking of ditching my Behringer X-Touch (nothing wrong with it) and get the Slate Raven MTI2. Is anyone using it? How do you like it?
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Post by swurveman on Sept 3, 2017 9:32:58 GMT -6
I demoed it. I sent it back because it didn't align well on the screen with Cubase's faders and the one button push key command functions didn't work. I also had trouble aligning it with Pro Tools.
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Post by donr on Sept 5, 2017 8:54:21 GMT -6
I've got one, although I'm not using it at the moment. The setup procedure is a bit tedious and takes a while to get all the functions happening, but I got it to work well with DP. The monitor is nice and the multitouch works as advertised. I realized I had no reason to emulate a large format console on my desktop. I'm a short guy, and reaching for touch presses and drags I'd usually move a mouse for was no advantage to me. I need the desk real estate for a midi controller and other things. I didn't mind having the monitor right in front of me, that part was cool. I am now using a 50" Samsung curved 4k TV on an AV stand for a monitor, and that frees up the desktop. I see MTi's mounted in console style enclosures, and that's neat if that's the way you want to work. I still think it's an innovative product. The macro capability could be really worthwhile if the time is taken to set up the routines you use repeatedly. PM me if you think you want one, stormy.  |
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Post by stormymondays on Sept 5, 2017 16:21:04 GMT -6
Thanks! I decided it takes too much space for my current desk.
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Post by donr on Sept 5, 2017 16:38:27 GMT -6
Thanks! I decided it takes too much space for my current desk. That's the rub. You need to plan your desk around it. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 5, 2017 20:52:30 GMT -6
donr Can you post a pic of the new setup ? Anyone Else: Been having issues with my 2nd bigger display . It connects from the TB display port to hdmi to screen.. Thing is my 2012 MBP only has 1 TB port which is how I get a second monitor. If I had two TB ports life would be easy 😂 Trying to find a solution that would let me put the TB card in my Apollo as well as get a new screen while still using the same TB port. I'm afraid if they are daisy chained the screen via TB will take away from the Apollo throughput, even though I'm sure it will still be still way more than the fw800 lol
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Post by brucerothwell on Sept 6, 2017 8:23:57 GMT -6
I demoed it. I sent it back because it didn't align well on the screen with Cubase's faders and the one button push key command functions didn't work. I also had trouble aligning it with Pro Tools. You might want to check out DTouch, and set up your own touchscreen hardware. DTouch is adding lots of nice features for Cubase/Nuendo lately. (sorry for the GS link) |
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Post by donr on Sept 6, 2017 23:20:34 GMT -6
donr Can you post a pic of the new setup ? Anyone Else: Been having issues with my 2nd bigger display . It connects from the TB display port to hdmi to screen.. Thing is my 2012 MBP only has 1 TB port which is how I get a second monitor. If I had two TB ports life would be easy 😂 Trying to find a solution that would let me put the TB card in my Apollo as well as get a new screen while still using the same TB port. I'm afraid if they are daisy chained the screen via TB will take away from the Apollo throughput, even though I'm sure it will still be still way more than the fw800 lol Chase, here it is at the moment. It's a work in progress as I assume all of our rooms are. I'm so nuts with touring this year I haven't spent any where near the time I want to in the room. The treatment is Jeff Hedbeck's. The beige is 2" 703 over pegboard and standard insulation (covers about ⅔ of the top of the room where the original pegboard was a workshop feature.) The squares on the wall and ceiling are GIK tuned bass traps and the overhead is GIK too. Note the SVART box in the top of the rack and the ZULU on the stool. Both righteous pieces of gear. The SVART D/A is fed/clocked by AES/spidf from the MH ULN-8 and I can monitor off either one without changing the setup in the DAW. The Apollo is great, I retain it for its functionality but it's not in the same sonic league as the SVART and the Metric Halo. BTW, my video is connected by the HDMI port on the 2013 MacPro, and I hooked up the Slate MTi2 the same way on my 2014 MBPro. No issues with it, it works fine. What issues are you having? I only use TB for the Apollo stuff, an outboard SSD, and interfacing my Metric Halo ULN-8's FW400 with an Apple TB adapter.  |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 7, 2017 0:18:52 GMT -6
donrWow what a creative haven, I am also a single room operation 😀 Your treatment and positions looks great as well and man that new screen of yours is sexy. My issue is I only have one thunderbolt port and no hdmi port so any extra display runs off TB bus. My 2012 MBPro has 1 TB/ DisplayPort, 2 USB, 1 FW800, 1 Ethernet, & 1 SuperDrive.. Currently have a 27" Samsung 1080p monitor connected via TB/ DisplayPort to HDMI cable. The screen randomly cuts out and turns blue & won't power on, then have to power cycle. Then when it does power up it cycles thru the screen modes while flashing bright blue.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 7, 2017 13:36:22 GMT -6
My advise setup an I pad and use a track pad in conjunction with it.
I could not be happier since everthing is set up to work like I want it to work.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 8, 2017 8:26:41 GMT -6
I've got one, although I'm not using it at the moment. The setup procedure is a bit tedious and takes a while to get all the functions happening, but I got it to work well with DP. The monitor is nice and the multitouch works as advertised. I realized I had no reason to emulate a large format console on my desktop. I'm a short guy, and reaching for touch presses and drags I'd usually move a mouse for was no advantage to me. I need the desk real estate for a midi controller and other things. I didn't mind having the monitor right in front of me, that part was cool. I am now using a 50" Samsung curved 4k TV on an AV stand for a monitor, and that frees up the desktop. I see MTi's mounted in console style enclosures, and that's neat if that's the way you want to work. I still think it's an innovative product. The macro capability could be really worthwhile if the time is taken to set up the routines you use repeatedly. PM me if you think you want one, stormy. View AttachmentThat has been my biggest question with these...it seems like it would take more effort to use the Raven than just getting it done with the mouse...Also, I'm not sure why everyone feels the need to do more than one thing at a time...e.g. I can't EQ a snare drum and physically ride a fader at the same time - why do I even need the ability to do that? |
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Post by swurveman on Sept 8, 2017 11:17:38 GMT -6
I've got one, although I'm not using it at the moment. The setup procedure is a bit tedious and takes a while to get all the functions happening, but I got it to work well with DP. The monitor is nice and the multitouch works as advertised. I realized I had no reason to emulate a large format console on my desktop. I'm a short guy, and reaching for touch presses and drags I'd usually move a mouse for was no advantage to me. I need the desk real estate for a midi controller and other things. I didn't mind having the monitor right in front of me, that part was cool. I am now using a 50" Samsung curved 4k TV on an AV stand for a monitor, and that frees up the desktop. I see MTi's mounted in console style enclosures, and that's neat if that's the way you want to work. I still think it's an innovative product. The macro capability could be really worthwhile if the time is taken to set up the routines you use repeatedly. PM me if you think you want one, stormy. That has been my biggest question with these...it seems like it would take more effort to use the Raven than just getting it done with the mouse...Also, I'm not sure why everyone feels the need to do more than one thing at a time...e.g. I can't EQ a snare drum and physically ride a fader at the same time - why do I even need the ability to do that? This was my experience. If they could fix how quickly and accurately the Raven's fader's lined up with the DAW faders, things like one touch batch commander commands would make this a very productive tool. And it would be nice to just grab faders without a mouse. The screen is really beautiful and I liked how it was angled, but it took time each time to open up a project to align faders and only aligned 24 at a time with Cubase. So, if you went beyond 24 you had to realign. In fairness to them this was the beta for Cubase. So, I took a chance, but they were nowhere near ready and I had a small window to return it. However, aligning faders with the Pro Tools faders was a problem for me as well. So, I didn't want to take the chance on keeping it and making Pro Tools my main DAW. I feared I'd dump it for my mouse and would have invested in an expensive screen. I hope they can fix this and make everything seamless. |
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 11, 2017 21:56:21 GMT -6
I've got one, although I'm not using it at the moment. The setup procedure is a bit tedious and takes a while to get all the functions happening, but I got it to work well with DP. The monitor is nice and the multitouch works as advertised. I realized I had no reason to emulate a large format console on my desktop. I'm a short guy, and reaching for touch presses and drags I'd usually move a mouse for was no advantage to me. I need the desk real estate for a midi controller and other things. I didn't mind having the monitor right in front of me, that part was cool. I am now using a 50" Samsung curved 4k TV on an AV stand for a monitor, and that frees up the desktop. I see MTi's mounted in console style enclosures, and that's neat if that's the way you want to work. I still think it's an innovative product. The macro capability could be really worthwhile if the time is taken to set up the routines you use repeatedly. PM me if you think you want one, stormy. That has been my biggest question with these...it seems like it would take more effort to use the Raven than just getting it done with the mouse...Also, I'm not sure why everyone feels the need to do more than one thing at a time...e.g. I can't EQ a snare drum and physically ride a fader at the same time - why do I even need the ability to do that? I think it depends on how you're used to working - I'm used to doing stuff in real time (I started out as a a live engineer), whereas people who have mostly used DAWs will do things one at a time and use automation for simultaneous functions. To me working that way takes a lot of the spontaneity out of doing a mix (especially concerning certain things involving FX, as well as changing things like the balance between lead and background vocals at transitions between sections of a song) - I prefer to do stuff like that by ear in real time rather than planning moves in advance - which is why I mix on a console rather than planning out automation curves ITB. The idea behind the Raven is that it's more like working a console. Sounds like they still don't have all the bugs worked out of it yet..... which is one of the main reasons I've become gunshy when it comes to adopting new technology. |
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 13, 2017 13:07:19 GMT -6
I'm a short guy, and reaching for touch presses and drags I'd usually move a mouse for was no advantage to me. Yeah, you "heavy metal munchkin", you!  What mag was that, Cream? |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 14, 2017 11:54:48 GMT -6
donr Can you post a pic of the new setup ? Anyone Else: Been having issues with my 2nd bigger display . It connects from the TB display port to hdmi to screen.. Thing is my 2012 MBP only has 1 TB port which is how I get a second monitor. If I had two TB ports life would be easy 😂 Trying to find a solution that would let me put the TB card in my Apollo as well as get a new screen while still using the same TB port. I'm afraid if they are daisy chained the screen via TB will take away from the Apollo throughput, even though I'm sure it will still be still way more than the fw800 lol Chase, here it is at the moment. It's a work in progress as I assume all of our rooms are. I'm so nuts with touring this year I haven't spent any where near the time I want to in the room. The treatment is Jeff Hedbeck's. The beige is 2" 703 over pegboard and standard insulation (covers about ⅔ of the top of the room where the original pegboard was a workshop feature.) The squares on the wall and ceiling are GIK tuned bass traps and the overhead is GIK too. Note the SVART box in the top of the rack and the ZULU on the stool. Both righteous pieces of gear. The SVART D/A is fed/clocked by AES/spidf from the MH ULN-8 and I can monitor off either one without changing the setup in the DAW. The Apollo is great, I retain it for its functionality but it's not in the same sonic league as the SVART and the Metric Halo. BTW, my video is connected by the HDMI port on the 2013 MacPro, and I hooked up the Slate MTi2 the same way on my 2014 MBPro. No issues with it, it works fine. What issues are you having? I only use TB for the Apollo stuff, an outboard SSD, and interfacing my Metric Halo ULN-8's FW400 with an Apple TB adapter. View AttachmentI spy a Kemper!! Ahh the brotherhood. |
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