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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2017 15:40:06 GMT -6
I guess it would be a huge undertaking to design and produce a modular console. I would buy an 8 x 4 console.. I remember Tony Arnold at Helios talked a few years back about doing a flat pack modular console but there's no way i think this will happen - how cool would that have been arny Tony has dropped off the face of the earth.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2017 15:42:28 GMT -6
Haha. Transformers alone put CAPI in a different league. Also, an output attenuator is not the same as the fader on a VP28 or an API console. Capi has far more in common with the circuits that define the API sound than new API gear does. JK tagged me and RB here cuz both of us own API 1608s that we were unhappy with until we both modded them with capi components and Jeff's guidance to get them closer to "real" API circuits. I'd say the difference is NOT subtle. Do a search and you'll find the thread where I posted some before and after files that ended up inspiring RB to do the mods too. Anyway...I don't know much about new API preamps except I'll never buy one. I also got kicked off a panel that API was sponsoring because I talked about the mods I did and that I have 8 capi Eqs in the console and 0 apis. But we all hear stuff differently and we all like different sounds. But I will say believer or not there is some science involved. The gear isn't filled with pixie dust. It's filled with components and it works based on the laws of physics. Capi stuff is designed and built a certain way and it's different than new API gear. It sounds the way it does on purpose. We like it because of facts, not feelings. Jesus H. Christ....OK, I'll have to try them. You guys know what you're talking about. I've just found myself not relying as much on mic-pre choice and more on instrument and mic choice/placement to affect sounds and tone lately. I will get myself a 28 and do some comparisons. I can move those 512v units pretty easily if I need to. #IthoughtIwasdonespeding$ongearthisyear I get it. I don't really obsess over pres much anymore myself. The VP28's cover all the bases for me. What I love most about them is their clean headroom. But then if you wanted to drive them you can.
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Post by ericn on Sept 13, 2017 16:12:58 GMT -6
Jesus H. Christ....OK, I'll have to try them. You guys know what you're talking about. I've just found myself not relying as much on mic-pre choice and more on instrument and mic choice/placement to affect sounds and tone lately. I will get myself a 28 and do some comparisons. I can move those 512v units pretty easily if I need to. #IthoughtIwasdonespeding$ongearthisyear I get it. I don't really obsess over pres much anymore myself. The VP28's cover all the bases for me. What I love most about them is their clean headroom. But then if you wanted to drive them you can. CAPI my 8 ch of Dan Alexander / Neve, a couple of ch of Tube and Ultra clean and I'm covered!
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Post by gevermil on Sept 13, 2017 17:46:12 GMT -6
Yeahaw Got my capi order today Now I can be as cool as all of yuz
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Post by roundbadge on Sept 26, 2017 2:56:21 GMT -6
the recall mixes I did on my API 1608 after the extensive mods were laughable.the old mixes sounded fucked.cluttered,pokey and hard/harsh upper mids.ugh.*&^%$#!! I worked on a vintage 3288 for years.just lovely and effortless.always wondered why I pulled my hair out trying to mix on the 1608.constant battle.was on the verge of selling it.now I use way less eq and processing to get there.also mix buss has 6db more headroom ..thanks to Jeff and Noah for helping me figuring that mod stuff out! oh by the way the Capi mic pres I have [VP28.s FD312's] smoke the 1608 mic pres..even after I modded them too. the new BT/LC eq's KILL the latest 550a's and 560s.replaced every last one w/ BT50's LC 40's/25's.
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Post by spindrift on Oct 13, 2017 21:42:52 GMT -6
I thought I owed you guys an update: YOU ALL WERE RIGHT ABOUT CAPI! I'm still keeping two of four 512V pres for now as I still really like something about their sound in the high-end. I'm selling two of them off though after this exercise. My new 500 PreAmp setup is: 500s:4x VP28 (red dot - Litz) - Beautifully built by indiehouse 4x FD312 Heiders 2x API 512V 2x AEA RPQ500 1x BAE 312A Now, I just need the perfect big 3D tube vocal tracking preamp/channel-strip....THEN I'm done - I swear.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Oct 13, 2017 22:20:24 GMT -6
I thought I owed you guys an update: YOU ALL WERE RIGHT ABOUT CAPI! I'm still keeping two of four 512V pres for now as I still really like something about their sound in the high-end. I'm selling two of them off though after this exercise. My new PreAmp setup is: 500s:4x VP28 (red dot - Litz) - Beautifully built by indiehouse4x FD312 Heiders 2x API 512V 2x AEA RPQ500 1x BAE 312A Racked:8x BAE 1073MPF 2x Vintech X81 1x Gordon Model 5 Stereo (amazing BTW) Now, I just need the perfect big 3D tube vocal tracking preamp/channel-strip....THEN I'm done - I swear. Locomotive Audio 286 a Also his other company weight tank is coming out with a tube preamp around early next year...
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Post by spindrift on Oct 13, 2017 22:38:53 GMT -6
Locomotive Audio 286 a Also his other company weight tank is coming out with a tube preamp around early next year... 🤤 🤤 🤤
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 14, 2017 4:59:27 GMT -6
I thought I owed you guys an update: YOU ALL WERE RIGHT ABOUT CAPI! I'm still keeping two of four 512V pres for now as I still really like something about their sound in the high-end. I'm selling two of them off though after this exercise. My new PreAmp setup is: 500s:4x VP28 (red dot - Litz) - Beautifully built by indiehouse4x FD312 Heiders 2x API 512V 2x AEA RPQ500 1x BAE 312A Racked:8x BAE 1073MPF 2x Vintech X81 1x Gordon Model 5 Stereo (amazing BTW) Now, I just need the perfect big 3D tube vocal tracking preamp/channel-strip....THEN I'm done - I swear. Locomotive Audio 286 a Also his other company weight tank is coming out with a tube preamp around early next year... Damn you. Gonna be a Weight Tank preamp too? Trying to spend more of my money! I'm hoping my new studio budget let's me add a pair of CAPI VP28's and a Locomotive preamp. Gotta get painting, floors, and cabling done first though.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Oct 14, 2017 16:15:34 GMT -6
Attachment Deletedjcoutu1 spindriftHere is where the man himself told me ... I want a 286a but it has no line level so we were discussing ways to get into the 286a for line level flavoring.. he even offered to build me the step down cables 🤠 dude is awesome and I can’t wait to spend my money with him.. this is when he mentioned the weight tank preamp with line level functionality Off topic : Tube vs Solid State Idk I haven’t heard the 286a and it’s about $4/500 more than the RTZ and I don’t have much experience with tube based pres. Would the 286a be awesome for HipHop Rap POP Vocals? Also for coloring synth groups drum groups etc? I figured the 286a could provide more tonal options than the RTZ as far as line level based processing goes ( haven’t heard either in person ) ( Nashville shop sells both, may take a drive now that I’m whipping again ) I don’t have much experience with tube based products as well.
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