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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2017 14:39:06 GMT -6
I was wondering if there's such a thing as unity gain on a bypassed 1176 comp, since there are so many input and output combinations that could yield unity.
I just got my Vintage Audio m76 (Revive Audio) and it seems unity gain is around -36 on both the input and output for me, with the bypass engaged, and feeding a 0dBU signal. The original 1176 manual suggests -24 (12 o'clock) as unity gain, which is incredibly hot on my unit!
I used to have the Warm Audio WA76 and I think the unity gain was a bit higher, but never as high as 12 o'clock on both dials.
Have you tested yours?
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Post by EmRR on Aug 21, 2017 14:55:23 GMT -6
This is entirely about the resistance curve of the input pot, and resistance curves between different pot manufacturers are different, also generally 20% tolerance. Replace the pot in a unit, it's gonna land in a different place. Any of them can be set for unity, it requires measurements.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 21, 2017 15:50:28 GMT -6
Warm Audio is 30 on the input and 30 on the output ( 12 o clock )
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Post by wiz on Aug 21, 2017 16:05:34 GMT -6
depends on the level you send it.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2017 16:17:58 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies! It was mostly scientific curiosity, since there really isn't much practical use for a unity gain setting anyway. I also wanted to know if there was some common starting point that everyone used. Revive Audio suggests that the output control is usually good around 9 o-clock, which is in line with my experience, unless I'm totally crushing the signal.
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Post by wiz on Aug 21, 2017 16:35:07 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies! It was mostly scientific curiosity, since there really isn't much practical use for a unity gain setting anyway. I also wanted to know if there was some common starting point that everyone used. Revive Audio suggests that the output control is usually good around 9 o-clock, which is in line with my experience, unless I'm totally crushing the signal. I would suggest, send it level, turn up input to get amount of compression you want, and adjust output level for the amount you need going back in, or to next piece of gear. In reality I use two hands and do this at the same time.... Once you have it balanced, you can turn the knobs counter to each other and get more or less compression at same out put volume...remember when you switch ratio, the threshold changes. cheers Wiz |
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Post by stormymondays on Aug 21, 2017 16:43:46 GMT -6
Thanks Wiz! Yes, that's actually THE way to use a hardware 1176, and you can't do the two handed thing with a plug!
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Post by rocinante on Aug 21, 2017 19:04:55 GMT -6
What degree/oclock you have it at is only relevant to how much compression you want to apply and how much you want to hear that compression. I like driving the 1176 with bass but if I'm recording vocals and I got kind of a hot singer I keep both the input in the low and the output at 12 o clock.
When mixing lead guitars its once again dependent on what it going on with Everything else in the mix but i usually like driving the transformers so its around 2 o clock for the in and between 1-3 o clock for the out.
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