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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 12, 2017 19:13:04 GMT -6
I'm still downloading. The thing is huge.
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Post by popmann on Sept 12, 2017 20:21:27 GMT -6
280gb or so.....less if you don't download the surround mics.
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Post by ragan on Sept 12, 2017 20:26:15 GMT -6
Heheh. Went to watch the video on the site and they let you hear everything...except the drums.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2017 22:30:23 GMT -6
Read that even the surround stuff folds down to stereo...and you should download all if you want all the presets to sound right. Not sure I'll download the two 40 gb surround ones tho.
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Post by levon on Sept 13, 2017 3:49:58 GMT -6
Omg. That's the best 14 minutes I've ever spent in my life. The melodies. Just killer. That's freaking inspiring. I reeeeaaaalllly want to buy, but I know it's one of those things where I buy it and think...wait...mine doesn't sound like that. I'd buy it if it came with Greg Phillinganes
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Post by popmann on Sept 13, 2017 11:36:36 GMT -6
George's presets are up first in the video:
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 13, 2017 11:47:53 GMT -6
Dang John, if yo feel that way I'll probably end up wanting it too. I was hoping that since I already have SD 2 and EZ Drummer, this wouldn't be a must have. Tell me what's floating your boat about it please.
*Popmann's post hit just as mine did. Now I see, the Massenburg presets finally cured the overkill on most of Toontracks snare hits. Nothing I did would tame them. Those presets alone are worth buying. There were a few others that were really good too. Mainly, all the drums just sound better and more natural, much more like someone really plays instead of overplaying.
When I'm flush, I'd get it for the presets alone.
Hmm.. are the Massenburg presets available separately?
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2017 12:26:43 GMT -6
Open the "Radio Rock Yamaha" preset under Pop/Rock and turn on all the bleed. That Yamaha kit is killer
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Post by popmann on Sept 13, 2017 13:29:12 GMT -6
Dang John, if yo feel that way I'll probably end up wanting it too. I was hoping that since I already have SD 2 and EZ Drummer, this wouldn't be a must have. Tell me what's floating your boat about it please. *Popmann's post hit just as mine did. Now I see, the Massenburg presets finally cured the overkill on most of Toontracks snare hits. Nothing I did would tame them. Those presets alone are worth buying. There were a few others that were really good too. Mainly, all the drums just sound better and more natural, much more like someone really plays instead of overplaying. When I'm flush, I'd get it for the presets alone. Hmm.. are the Massenburg presets available separately? That IS SD3. They're presets he made from the drums HE recorded....which is the content of SD3. He didn't go through and make presets for drums he didn't record. That said--the problems you're having aren't likely to do with the sounds. Put Drumkit Designer on multi-output mode to access the nicer (not as pre processed) ProDucer Kits....choose the "Vintage 60s Kit"....."BlackBrass" snare....then learn to use the tool that's going to save you. See what happens as you tell sections to "follow" your guitar....your bass....etc....get it where it's all groovin' and THEN expand the 15+ channels and render them and audio.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 13, 2017 14:22:39 GMT -6
Dang John, if yo feel that way I'll probably end up wanting it too. I was hoping that since I already have SD 2 and EZ Drummer, this wouldn't be a must have. Tell me what's floating your boat about it please. *Popmann's post hit just as mine did. Now I see, the Massenburg presets finally cured the overkill on most of Toontracks snare hits. Nothing I did would tame them. Those presets alone are worth buying. There were a few others that were really good too. Mainly, all the drums just sound better and more natural, much more like someone really plays instead of overplaying. When I'm flush, I'd get it for the presets alone. Hmm.. are the Massenburg presets available separately? You have to discover the drum designer in Logic X nice presets premixed you just need to back off things a little and you have a great sounding kit for a strating point. The best of it all taht you can design the drumming stile the way you want to have it....
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2017 15:36:01 GMT -6
This thing is on an entirely different level compared to anything else that's out. Like the Kemper of drum programs.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 13, 2017 18:48:07 GMT -6
Dang John, if yo feel that way I'll probably end up wanting it too. I was hoping that since I already have SD 2 and EZ Drummer, this wouldn't be a must have. Tell me what's floating your boat about it please. *Popmann's post hit just as mine did. Now I see, the Massenburg presets finally cured the overkill on most of Toontracks snare hits. Nothing I did would tame them. Those presets alone are worth buying. There were a few others that were really good too. Mainly, all the drums just sound better and more natural, much more like someone really plays instead of overplaying. When I'm flush, I'd get it for the presets alone. Hmm.. are the Massenburg presets available separately? That IS SD3. They're presets he made from the drums HE recorded....which is the content of SD3. He didn't go through and make presets for drums he didn't record. That said--the problems you're having aren't likely to do with the sounds. Put Drumkit Designer on multi-output mode to access the nicer (not as pre processed) ProDucer Kits....choose the "Vintage 60s Kit"....."BlackBrass" snare....then learn to use the tool that's going to save you. See what happens as you tell sections to "follow" your guitar....your bass....etc....get it where it's all groovin' and THEN expand the 15+ channels and render them and audio. Good advise. The previous versions of SD were all unusable in raw form to me. It takes a long time to Taylor the grooves to something usable. I'm praying this new version cures that. I simply don't have the time to tweak these days.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 13, 2017 19:02:31 GMT -6
This thing is on an entirely different level compared to anything else that's out. Like the Kemper of drum programs. Is there a demo version, because I was not convinced by the German-Kemper...
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 14, 2017 7:30:49 GMT -6
Then you probably won't be convinced by this
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Post by lcr on Sept 14, 2017 20:28:35 GMT -6
Downloading...
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Post by lcr on Sept 15, 2017 13:06:45 GMT -6
This sounds pretty amazing. Lot's of variety. All the features and more that I wanted from EZ, great job Toontrack.
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Post by matt on Sept 15, 2017 13:56:34 GMT -6
I'm so invested in BFD3 it would be hard to switch. But I'm tempted . . .
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Post by lcr on Sept 15, 2017 15:50:56 GMT -6
I'm so invested in BFD3 it would be hard to switch. But I'm tempted . . . I own BFD 3, from memory it sounds really clean. I often use a seprate drum software than Superior for crashes and BFD3 works well for this.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 15, 2017 18:03:09 GMT -6
There's bugs in it. Don't get excited just yet. Sounds great but needs work. I'm on Mavericks and it has trouble with old sessions to replace midi. Not convinced at this point. Racking my brain trying to find a workaround for this.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 15, 2017 18:13:19 GMT -6
Can you print to audio using the new samples and ditch midi ?
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 15, 2017 18:26:53 GMT -6
Then you probably won't be convinced by this Had time to listen to the demos and you are right a lot of details more than with the XLN Drums. 330 Euro ist not cheap for drum samples ..... I may wait for a special offer....
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Post by popmann on Sept 15, 2017 18:32:03 GMT -6
There's bugs in it. Don't get excited just yet. Sounds great but needs work. I'm on Mavericks and it has trouble with old sessions to replace midi. Not convinced at this point. Racking my brain trying to find a workaround for this. You mean it's more dynamic than anything TT ever released so old sessions sound weird? Also side note--get on 10.12. They're about to release 10.13....and it's like a "breaks everything" reboot of the OS, me thinks. Once they put 10.13 in the app store, you wont be able to officially get 10.12. I have a disk image if you end up needing it, but....you know--at least download 10.12 and make yourself a disk image without installing it.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 15, 2017 19:18:46 GMT -6
There's bugs in it. Don't get excited just yet. Sounds great but needs work. I'm on Mavericks and it has trouble with old sessions to replace midi. Not convinced at this point. Racking my brain trying to find a workaround for this. You mean it's more dynamic than anything TT ever released so old sessions sound weird? Also side note--get on 10.12. They're about to release 10.13....and it's like a "breaks everything" reboot of the OS, me thinks. Once they put 10.13 in the app store, you wont be able to officially get 10.12. I have a disk image if you end up needing it, but....you know--at least download 10.12 and make yourself a disk image without installing it. No. I mean it's the digital signal of death. The ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ in the monitors. Something is wrong with the software concerning Cubase. Could be something funky with just this one session I'm trying but still it's maddening.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 15, 2017 19:19:17 GMT -6
There's bugs in it. Don't get excited just yet. Sounds great but needs work. I'm on Mavericks and it has trouble with old sessions to replace midi. Not convinced at this point. Racking my brain trying to find a workaround for this. You mean it's more dynamic than anything TT ever released so old sessions sound weird? Also side note--get on 10.12. They're about to release 10.13....and it's like a "breaks everything" reboot of the OS, me thinks. Once they put 10.13 in the app store, you wont be able to officially get 10.12. I have a disk image if you end up needing it, but....you know--at least download 10.12 and make yourself a disk image without installing it. You always can download older purchased OSX versions in the APP store. Just click the purchased button and there it is. At least I can see all my old OSX Versions there.... it makes sense becasue I paid for them with every new Mac.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 15, 2017 19:20:31 GMT -6
On a side note, I'm sure if I started a session fresh there would be no issues. This sort of thing has happened to me before with software. It's very fickle.
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