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Post by porkyman on Dec 6, 2019 19:25:15 GMT -6
This is awesome svart. Thanks.
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 6, 2019 19:41:26 GMT -6
Anybody try dangling a clip on lapel type mic in front of or inside a kick mic? Just read about this and thought that might be a kinda fun and lower cost experiment.
Just throwing it out there. Read about it or saw a vid recently. Might just suck, who knows.
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by svart on Dec 6, 2019 22:43:30 GMT -6
Anybody try dangling a clip on lapel type mic in front of or inside a kick mic? Just read about this and thought that might be a kinda fun and lower cost experiment. Just throwing it out there. Read about it or saw a vid recently. Might just suck, who knows. Cheers, Geoff I haven't done this. I do have some lapel/lavaliere mics I could try though.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 8, 2019 12:19:10 GMT -6
A Sony lapel mike has been my go-to for a high hat since the mid-'70s. Traditionally, the overheads are treated as THE drum mikes with everything else added for fill.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 8, 2019 13:54:41 GMT -6
Wow! Great thread. Don't know how I originally missed it. Thanks, Chris
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 8, 2019 14:14:51 GMT -6
Anybody try dangling a clip on lapel type mic in front of or inside a kick mic? Just read about this and thought that might be a kinda fun and lower cost experiment. Just throwing it out there. Read about it or saw a vid recently. Might just suck, who knows. Cheers, Geoff Dunno about that, but when I was with FM we used to use a Sony ECM-50 suspended just inside the lip of a large gong.
I've also used a pair suspended inside an upright piano.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:38:27 GMT -6
Anybody try dangling a clip on lapel type mic in front of or inside a kick mic? Just read about this and thought that might be a kinda fun and lower cost experiment. Just throwing it out there. Read about it or saw a vid recently. Might just suck, who knows. Cheers, Geoff I've seen Albini use one on the batter side of the bass drum in videos / pics.
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 9, 2019 14:44:46 GMT -6
Anybody try dangling a clip on lapel type mic in front of or inside a kick mic? Just read about this and thought that might be a kinda fun and lower cost experiment. Just throwing it out there. Read about it or saw a vid recently. Might just suck, who knows. Cheers, Geoff I've seen Albini use one on the batter side of the bass drum in videos / pics. Did watch some Albini drum stuff in the last couple of months so that’s probably it. Thanks! Cheers, Geoff
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Dec 9, 2019 15:47:40 GMT -6
. Take an amp, plug in a cable but leave the other end on the floor. Jack up the gain until you get plenty of hiss and hum. Place your mic about 1" from the grill and about 1" from the place where the cone meets the center cap. Run your mic through your system and monitor it with some very isolating headphones (or make an assistant move the mic while you sit in front of the monitors) and listen to the change in the hiss/hum sound as you move the mic forward and backward. This takes a little practice but listen for how the natural EQ changes. Over a few tries you should start hearing the "hollow" sound of being in a null point of the sound. Move this forward and backward and you'll start to hear where the sound becomes more normal. Chances are that you have to move the mics back further than you thought at first. Listen for the point where you no longer hear the "hollow" sound but still have a balance between high and lows. That's where you put the mic in distance. Now you can move it slightly side to side to get more brightness if you move it more in line with the center cap, or more dark as you move outwards toward the edge. Now you can adjust your amp a little more to make the sound perfect. How would you treat using something like an M160? Same process, but more distance?
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 12, 2019 2:59:38 GMT -6
. Take an amp, plug in a cable but leave the other end on the floor. Jack up the gain until you get plenty of hiss and hum. Place your mic about 1" from the grill and about 1" from the place where the cone meets the center cap. Run your mic through your system and monitor it with some very isolating headphones (or make an assistant move the mic while you sit in front of the monitors) and listen to the change in the hiss/hum sound as you move the mic forward and backward. This takes a little practice but listen for how the natural EQ changes. Over a few tries you should start hearing the "hollow" sound of being in a null point of the sound. Move this forward and backward and you'll start to hear where the sound becomes more normal. Chances are that you have to move the mics back further than you thought at first. Listen for the point where you no longer hear the "hollow" sound but still have a balance between high and lows. That's where you put the mic in distance. Now you can move it slightly side to side to get more brightness if you move it more in line with the center cap, or more dark as you move outwards toward the edge. Now you can adjust your amp a little more to make the sound perfect. How would you treat using something like an M160? Same process, but more distance? Well, the M160 is a hypercardioid ribbon and the lav is an electret condenser, most likely omni. Using the ECM50 on the gong we were able to hanf the mic right inside the lip of the gong because it could swing freely and not get in the way as the gong moved - but it also must have been getting pretty high SPL in that position. IIRC that was on a Heart tour, must have been about mid '78.
The M160 wouldn't really be well adapted to such unconventional setups.
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