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Post by guitfiddler on May 23, 2017 21:02:00 GMT -6
I am in a preamp craze. What do you think of the Daking preamps?
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Post by c0rtland on May 23, 2017 21:21:55 GMT -6
I feel ya
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Post by notneeson on May 23, 2017 21:57:12 GMT -6
Never had the pleasure. But, if I can expand the topic slightly...
Today I was tweaking a couple mixes that I tracked on a Trident TSM 48. I've often wondered about other Trident(y) flavors. Anyone ever heard the PMI Trident stuff? I guess the 80B pre would be closer to the TSM. I wonder how their A Range compares to the Daking?
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 23, 2017 23:04:50 GMT -6
We have a pair, they never really did "it" for me.
I've had the pleasure of working on a real A Range, and I gotta say they are light years apart imo.
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2017 6:36:51 GMT -6
We have a pair, they never really did "it" for me. I've had the pleasure of working on a real A Range, and I gotta say they are light years apart imo. Yeah I asked Butchvig when he had the A-range downstairs and a bunch of Daking upstairs what he thought and said he never thought of them having much in common. The Daking maybe based on the A Range, but it is a more modern interpretation. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 24, 2017 7:17:36 GMT -6
I'm looking at RTZ 9672 and Great River mp2nv.. the latter I can find used which would be cheaper. Both Neve - esque flavors ..
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Post by sean on May 24, 2017 8:06:36 GMT -6
They are perfectly good. I have a pair of the Mic Pre EQs. They aren't thick sounding, I think they have a little more top end than a lot of other options. As far as solid state preamps go of what I've owned and tried I think CAPI VP28s are my favorite. It's probably the first one I've used where I went "wow this does something I've not been able to do with something else"
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Post by kevinnyc on May 24, 2017 11:37:37 GMT -6
They are perfectly good. I have a pair of the Mic Pre EQs. They aren't thick sounding, I think they have a little more top end than a lot of other options. As far as solid state preamps go of what I've owned and tried I think CAPI VP28s are my favorite. It's probably the first one I've used where I went "wow this does something I've not been able to do with something else" My sentiments exactly. For me all roads lead back to the VP28...I'm a Porsche aficionado and I loved something I read about the 928 once...Faster than anything as luxurious and more luxurious than anything as fast... Muscle when you need and want it but in a classy way  That said, I wouldn't mind a pair of Dakings in the rack 😀 |
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Post by drsax on May 24, 2017 13:23:29 GMT -6
I am in a preamp craze. What do you think of the Daking preamps? I really like Daking preamps. They always sound great on any source. And they have enough clean gain to work on most any mic including dynamics and ribbons that need more gain. I love Neve and API, and have plenty of those flavors, but I don't always need or want the coloration. Daking seems to give me punch and a slight touch of vibe - without being too colored or saturated for certain sources. They work well for any style music. Bottom line... they just work and work well. They may not look as flashy as other pres, and they are not overly colored but they are very musical and yield outstanding results. And the DI also sounds great. In my opinion Daking pres and all their gear punches way above its price point. |
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Post by pope on May 24, 2017 15:55:19 GMT -6
Is it not a bit unfair comparing a single preamp with a preamp of a console? Signal-path wise?
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Post by drsax on May 24, 2017 16:51:40 GMT -6
Daking makes excellent consoles as well. Generally speaking, no mic pre performs exactly the same outside of a console. In a console, the signal is likely hitting additional transformers and/or circuitry in the master section of the console
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Post by pope on May 24, 2017 17:02:32 GMT -6
That was exactly my point. You can't compare a racked preamp with a preamp on a console.
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2017 17:11:29 GMT -6
Is it not a bit unfair comparing a single preamp with a preamp of a console? Signal-path wise? Well if your routing the console pre direct out pre EQ, that's the same. Since at this point there are very few original A Range modules and fewer A Range consoles add in the fact that at this point few modules in a A Range sound the same, plus the fact that the original Daking pre/EQ was a console module yeah it's valid! |
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Post by pope on May 24, 2017 17:54:26 GMT -6
A racked preamp most likely will have an input and output transformer while a direct out might be unbalanced. There you go! |
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Post by guitfiddler on May 24, 2017 18:56:30 GMT -6
I run all my Preamps into a console line in, so I'm getting the sound I like. Need the Pre's....more Pre's Please. Thanks for the input with some Iron.
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Post by Guitar on May 24, 2017 19:35:16 GMT -6
Never tried them, but I know some folks swear buy them on drums above any other option. Jensen transformers also, I think? Sounds good to me.
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2017 20:47:05 GMT -6
Never tried them, but I know some folks swear buy them on drums above any other option. Jensen transformers also, I think? Sounds good to me. No output iron in the solo or 500 series. |
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Post by superwack on May 24, 2017 21:02:06 GMT -6
Never tried them, but I know some folks swear buy them on drums above any other option. Jensen transformers also, I think? Sounds good to me. No output iron in the solo or 500 series. Apparently Daking just discontinued the 500 series preamp and Compressor. I've never used the preamps (in any form factor) but I know people who swear by them on drums. |
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2017 21:08:52 GMT -6
No output iron in the solo or 500 series. Apparently Daking just discontinued the 500 series preamp and Compressor. I've never used the preamps (in any form factor) but I know people who swear by them on drums. I heard that as well hopefully Geoff & Dave have something new on the horizon. |
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2017 21:28:56 GMT -6
I heard that as well hopefully Geoff & Dave have something new on the horizon. Agreed - hoping maybe for a pre closer to the rack (output iron) and a FET comp based on the FETii - love that thing! I know the same circuits are used in the new console so it might be a re-packaging of that board in 500 ? Just a guess? I remember hearing the VCA and using the THat Jensen output Opamps was a price point thing. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 24, 2017 22:11:49 GMT -6
I run all my Preamps into a console line in, so I'm getting the sound I like. Need the Pre's....more Pre's Please. Thanks for the input with some Iron. Rtz 9672-> Randy Kohrs swears by these Great river mp2nv -> can't go wrong here Miktek mpa-201-> has a switch for a racked pre vs pre into console sound Npng-> uberlux for clean or Cadillac for clean To colored Locomotive Audio -> 286 a ( dual tube gain Stage, hand built ptp) Coil Audio -> ca-70 or ca-286 -> bad ass tube ore dual gain stages 500 series 9672a -> exact same as 19" rack just 500 series with HPF added Avedis ma5 -> many people adore this pre, always praise CAPI vp312 Litz or vp28 litz -> 28 is RGO's favorite preamp 😀 312 has large output tx |
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Post by roundbadge on May 25, 2017 1:48:15 GMT -6
Ive had a Daking 52270 vertical lunchbox since 1993.they're nice.use em for drum overs,acoustic guitars and percussion.inspire by A Range.cleaner/firmer sounding than old neves and API.[my vintage Neve 1084's sound bigger thicker].
kinda like the focusrite blues in that they work on most everything but aren't godhead.useful but not necessarily number one go to.
I also had vintage Trident A Range Modules right next to them.the A Ranges were similar but maybe a bit more open and more extended in the low freq's.the eq was different.more broad.
that said the Dakings are way easier to recall eq wise[more consistent from module to module]..sold the Tridents,still have the Dakings.
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2017 7:06:43 GMT -6
Just a side question.... do you prefer to say DAY king or da KING? Not trying to start a poll...
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2017 7:46:44 GMT -6
Just a side question.... do you prefer to say DAY king or da KING? Not trying to start a poll... Heard Geoff say DAY-king so I go with the guy knows how to say his name. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 25, 2017 15:17:18 GMT -6
The mic pre one is the A-Range circuit only with a Jensen input transformer and a THAT balanced output driver. I am still very impressed. I understand the consoles also didn't use output transformers.
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