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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2017 17:14:53 GMT -6
I've loved the videos. Watched one about the omega mic pre. But wtf makes this different than slate? Clean mic pre. Software.
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Post by drsax on May 18, 2017 20:50:44 GMT -6
I have Kush hardware (tweakers and Electras) and I have a couple of their plugins (ubk-1 & transformer plug). I can say this about Kush - the plugins are fantastic... but... the hardware is sublime. No contest. With that said, I'd also be curious to hear from those who have tried the omega and how viable the software component is... or isn't?
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Post by john on May 19, 2017 8:20:05 GMT -6
I'm a fan of the gear. Haven't used the mic pre though. Their podcast cracks me up. Looking forward to his record being released. Even though he bites Portishead. (joking)...
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Post by schmalzy on May 19, 2017 9:09:27 GMT -6
I've loved the videos. Watched one about the omega mic pre. But wtf makes this different than slate? Clean mic pre. Software. What makes it different? Not much, I'd say. People certainly seem to be excited about the Slate stuff. Why aren't they as quick to rush to the Kush stuff? I don't know. Marketing, maybe? Possibly it's the intention of the product and the way it's presented. From the outside looking in (I've never used a Slate product so forgive me if I'm way off-base), the Slate stuff seems to want to sound exactly like what's being modeled. The FG Red is modeled after a specific unit. The Kush stuff, to me anyway, seems to be trying to model the essence of the gear and give you the character of 100 different units blended together rather than exactly one piece of gear itself. Gregory from Kush seems to push the marketing (and probably the product features/specs, too) towards the feeling of the thing that's being modeled rather than a specific unit. You can either get one person's favorite Neve 1073 or you could get Gregory's interpretation of what 100 people's 1073s give them to make those 1073s their favorite. Personally, I have a few color preamps. Most of my preamps are clean. Adding the Omega plugins to channels that went through my clean preamps gives them a little je ne sais quoi. The Omega plugins also get used on a lot of my channels as saturation - the Omega N (Neve) gets bigger, the A (API) gets aggressive, and the 458A gets "nicer." I'm a huge fan of the plugins - I don't own any of the hardware (though I'd love to have Tweakers and Electras - drsax, how many channels of each do you have? What do you find you're using them on most?) because it's all out of my price range at this point. The 500-series Electras are fairly affordable if you have a 500 box. I don't. The plugins (I have a subscription) always give me something fun and useable. I could open up a compressor and adjust some stuff to try to find the sound and maybe I'll get there or maybe I'll have to grab another compressor plugin. Or I could just put on UBK-1 and slide down the threshold, listen, click on the different compression types, and probably pretty quickly get something I like plus add controllable amount of saturation - both in a blendable amounts. I could put on an EQ or I could use an Electra, Hammer EQ, or Clariphonic (depending on needs). Similar to what I mentioned in the summing thread the other day - things just move more quickly and I smile more when I'm using the Kush plugins. I'm learning I need those two things to mix as effectively as I can at this point...which isn't great but I'm improving. |
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Post by drsax on May 19, 2017 9:36:32 GMT -6
I've loved the videos. Watched one about the omega mic pre. But wtf makes this different than slate? Clean mic pre. Software. What makes it different? Not much, I'd say. People certainly seem to be excited about the Slate stuff. Why aren't they as quick to rush to the Kush stuff? I don't know. Marketing, maybe? Possibly it's the intention of the product and the way it's presented. From the outside looking in (I've never used a Slate product so forgive me if I'm way off-base), the Slate stuff seems to want to sound exactly like what's being modeled. The FG Red is modeled after a specific unit. The Kush stuff, to me anyway, seems to be trying to model the essence of the gear and give you the character of 100 different units blended together rather than exactly one piece of gear itself. Gregory from Kush seems to push the marketing (and probably the product features/specs, too) towards the feeling of the thing that's being modeled rather than a specific unit. You can either get one person's favorite Neve 1073 or you could get Gregory's interpretation of what 100 people's 1073s give them to make those 1073s their favorite. Personally, I have a few color preamps. Most of my preamps are clean. Adding the Omega plugins to channels that went through my clean preamps gives them a little je ne sais quoi. The Omega plugins also get used on a lot of my channels as saturation - the Omega N (Neve) gets bigger, the A (API) gets aggressive, and the 458A gets "nicer." I'm a huge fan of the plugins - I don't own any of the hardware (though I'd love to have Tweakers and Electras - drsax, how many channels of each do you have? What do you find you're using them on most?) because it's all out of my price range at this point. The 500-series Electras are fairly affordable if you have a 500 box. I don't. The plugins (I have a subscription) always give me something fun and useable. I could open up a compressor and adjust some stuff to try to find the sound and maybe I'll get there or maybe I'll have to grab another compressor plugin. Or I could just put on UBK-1 and slide down the threshold, listen, click on the different compression types, and probably pretty quickly get something I like plus add controllable amount of saturation - both in a blendable amounts. I could put on an EQ or I could use an Electra, Hammer EQ, or Clariphonic (depending on needs). Similar to what I mentioned in the summing thread the other day - things just move more quickly and I smile more when I'm using the Kush plugins. I'm learning I need those two things to mix as effectively as I can at this point...which isn't great but I'm improving. I have two Tweakers and four of the 500 series Electras. I'm using the Electras on anything and everything including mix bus and even a mastering session I did recently. I've used them on bass, vocals, sax, drums & drum buss, and many other things as well. They have been stellar. The tweakers are relatively new here, and I've used them on drums and vocals with great success, and have even tried them on the mix buss where they sounded real nice. I'm still experimenting with the tweakers, and I love the control and variety I can get out of them. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 10:08:50 GMT -6
Kush, Kush, I thought I heard you call John's name ... Kush, Kush....
Like schmalzy and the good doctor says! Although I did try Kush side by side with Slate gear. I never feel qualified enough to comment on these things, but felt Slate had it's own sonic footprint which lots of people obviously like but to me seemed er, I suppose modern?? Lots of effect but little depth?? Can't describe it. Slate wasn't for me, Kush was.
I know you like the high end sweeteners so try clariphonic too ....
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