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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 13:12:06 GMT -6
I just read that the new iMacs have upgradable RAM and CPUs again!!! Just read this from ifixit 63 steps to accomplish upgrading the RAM. PC = 3 steps. Call Crucial, undo back, insert.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jun 11, 2017 13:16:53 GMT -6
The picture I saw had the new iMac allowing you to do the same. I suspect their sales had been slipping. We're at an interesting point in evolution because most people have had no real need for a new computer for five years or more. Video editing/rendering and some graphics are the exceptions.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Jun 12, 2017 5:19:49 GMT -6
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 14, 2017 9:11:13 GMT -6
I'll probably buy one of them someday....damn you apple! Making super powerful yuppy trendy snot, assholes...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 12:23:43 GMT -6
The bastards win again. Come to papa MacBook Pro...
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Post by ragan on Jun 16, 2017 13:03:51 GMT -6
The bastards win again. Come to papa MacBook Pro... You getting one, Jesse? I've not really been following but am looking at a new laptop soon. My 2009 MacBook Pro still works fine, a little sluggish. But I need TBolt. My mid 2011 maxed out iMac has been and absolute stalwart and is still going strong. I'm thinking of a new MacBook Pro at some point here for mobile stuff.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 13:33:01 GMT -6
I'm looking at the 15" 2.9, 16GB, 1TB. browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarksMacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2017) - Intel Core i7-7820HQ @ 2.9 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 15115
My current machine is... MacBook Pro (15-inch Retina Late 2013) - Intel Core i7-4750HQ @ 2.0 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 11629
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 14:40:56 GMT -6
The deed is done.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 16, 2017 15:20:48 GMT -6
That is a nice jump in power, please let us know how you get on with it !
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Post by john on Jun 16, 2017 16:09:16 GMT -6
I'm looking at the 15" 2.9, 16GB, 1TB. browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarksMacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2017) - Intel Core i7-7820HQ @ 2.9 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 15115
My current machine is... MacBook Pro (15-inch Retina Late 2013) - Intel Core i7-4750HQ @ 2.0 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 11629If I am reading that benchmark link correct I am going from a score of 4782 to a score 14480.
I got all my work transferred and opened a mix last night. smooth sailing. I will give it the tracking test tonight.
Congrats on doing the deed.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 16:20:53 GMT -6
I'm looking at the 15" 2.9, 16GB, 1TB. browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarksMacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2017) - Intel Core i7-7820HQ @ 2.9 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 15115
My current machine is... MacBook Pro (15-inch Retina Late 2013) - Intel Core i7-4750HQ @ 2.0 GHz (4 cores) = Benchmark Score 11629If I am reading that benchmark link correct I am going from a score of 4782 to a score 14480.
I got all my work transferred and opened a mix last night. smooth sailing. I will give it the tracking test tonight.
Congrats on doing the deed.
Kick ass. Congrats man.
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Post by reddirt on Jun 16, 2017 17:38:49 GMT -6
They also have a "new" pared back model with no touch bar ( sounds like a way to move old stock) based on the Halliwell chip as opposed to The Kaby lake. It's a 2.2 quad core i7 .
Given that I'm still running a 2010 2.53 dual core i5 with no issues, do i really need to be paying the extra for the high power machine or is it just false economy to think this way.
Anyone care to comment?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by reddirt on Jun 16, 2017 17:42:15 GMT -6
Further to my last post; the connectors are TB 2 and USB 3 on the pared back model so perhaps it's silly investing in older systems?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 16, 2017 18:03:52 GMT -6
Tb3 is backwards compatible and the i7 quad must significantly outperform your current machine.
Perhaps the better question might be, if something significant broke on your current mac,would you repair?
A new laptop is all new its not just about the specs ?
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Post by swurveman on Jun 16, 2017 18:17:50 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 18:56:18 GMT -6
15", 2.9 quad, 16gb, 1tb.
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Post by reddirt on Jun 16, 2017 19:01:46 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply Kcatt, it's 7 reliable years I've enjoyed which is sensational in Computer land. If something died and it has to soon, it would be silly (I think) to fix it as something else would be liable to go at any time after that.
The biggest issue with my 2010 machine is I'm still on the zero problems Snow Leopard which precludes me from updating software, so pragmatism says update the whole shebang and use a dock to interface FW/USB devices.
I welcome more thoughts. Cheers, Ross
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 16, 2017 19:13:06 GMT -6
They also have a "new" pared back model with no touch bar ( sounds like a way to move old stock) based on the Halliwell chip as opposed to The Kaby lake. It's a 2.2 quad core i7 . Given that I'm still running a 2010 2.53 dual core i5 with no issues, do i really need to be paying the extra for the high power machine or is it just false economy to think this way. Anyone care to comment? Cheers, Ross Before my late 2013, I had a 2011 13" dual i5. The 2013 quad model smoked tthe 2011. 2.2 quad i7, should be a nice improvement over your current machine, but I personally was on the cusp with my 2.0. I run a lot of hardware, but a lot of plugs too. Best of both worlds.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 16, 2017 20:11:30 GMT -6
They also have a "new" pared back model with no touch bar ( sounds like a way to move old stock) based on the Halliwell chip as opposed to The Kaby lake. It's a 2.2 quad core i7 . Given that I'm still running a 2010 2.53 dual core i5 with no issues, do i really need to be paying the extra for the high power machine or is it just false economy to think this way. Anyone care to comment? Cheers, Ross Before my late 2013, I had a 2011 13" dual i5. The 2013 quad model smoked tthe 2011. 2.2 quad i7, should be a nice improvement over your current machine, but I personally was on the cusp with my 2.0. I run a lot of hardware, but a lot of plugs too. Best of both worlds. Bro your machine you just replaced is better than my 2012 and I really don't have issues at all plus I use 32 bit apps... hope you got a smoking deal on it because that new MBP money saved up for another month would have got you easily into $2-3k monitor territory used and there are heavy hitters on the used market in that price range... The new MBP plus m pressor you could have easily got those mm35 with stands bro ... Also those geekbench numbers aren't the only standard for judging processor/ computer performance...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 26, 2017 19:41:19 GMT -6
For people who are in close proximity to their MBP or iMac how loud are the fans ? I consider my mbp somewhat noisy...
My 2012 15" is acting up wont power without charger, but battery has X thru it , but is also fully charged... 😔😔 I am at the Mac store now hoping the diagnostic tests can get me info phone support couldn't 😔
Replaced something and a new battery... powers on now without ac adapter however with or without adapter it takes forever.. don't know if this was the actual solution .. we shall see.. happy they got me in and sorted in less than 2 hours and had the repairs done same day! Felt VIP status 😂😎
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 26, 2017 20:04:02 GMT -6
For people who are in close proximity to their MBP or iMac how loud are the fans ? I consider my mbp somewhat noisy... My 2012 15" is acting up wont power without charger, but battery has X thru it , but is also fully charged... 😔😔 I am at the Mac store now hoping the diagnostic tests can get me info phone support couldn't 😔 Replaced something and a new battery... powers on now without ac adapter however with or without adapter it takes forever.. don't know if this was the actual solution .. we shall see.. happy they got me in and sorted in less than 2 hours and had the repairs done same day! Felt VIP status 😂😎 Probably $200 for the repair too?
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 26, 2017 22:48:03 GMT -6
For people who are in close proximity to their MBP or iMac how loud are the fans ? I consider my mbp somewhat noisy... My 2012 15" is acting up wont power without charger, but battery has X thru it , but is also fully charged... 😔😔 I am at the Mac store now hoping the diagnostic tests can get me info phone support couldn't 😔 Replaced something and a new battery... powers on now without ac adapter however with or without adapter it takes forever.. don't know if this was the actual solution .. we shall see.. happy they got me in and sorted in less than 2 hours and had the repairs done same day! Felt VIP status 😂😎 Probably $200 for the repair too? Yeah it was around that $229, idk though, just real bummed about it man. Yes it could be way more $ and way worse, like waiting until Saturday, then finding out I need to replace the mbp all together. I am bummed cuz I had everything ready for HD cloning and Sierra update but the MBP went to shit.. I never noticed anything acting weird. Stupid ass OS X Lion can't run full diagnostics, and of course he took my computer to the back to work on and run diagnostics so I couldn't see what was being done ( I didn't like that ).. How loud is your new MBP under half/ full load?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 27, 2017 4:27:27 GMT -6
Probably $200 for the repair too? Yeah it was around that $229, idk though, just real bummed about it man. Yes it could be way more $ and way worse, like waiting until Saturday, then finding out I need to replace the mbp all together. I am bummed cuz I had everything ready for HD cloning and Sierra update but the MBP went to shit.. I never noticed anything acting weird. Stupid ass OS X Lion can't run full diagnostics, and of course he took my computer to the back to work on and run diagnostics so I couldn't see what was being done ( I didn't like that ).. How loud is your new MBP under half/ full load? Was there another problem besides the bad battery? Do you often run on only battery? I'm running with the power cord 95% of the time and probably would have just skipped replacing the battery. My new one isn't in yet and probably won't be totally up and running for a month or something.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 27, 2017 5:08:36 GMT -6
I have a 2012 mbp i7 and can't say the fans are ever much of a problem. I am mostly not aware of them at all. Whenever, I open it up I always clean the fans out though. I run on cord 80-90% of the time. I have 2 internal ssd's as well.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 27, 2017 11:16:42 GMT -6
jcoutu1 kcatthedogI have 2012 i7, the battery wasn't actually charging even though the OS X said it was in normal condition and fully charged. As soon as the you unplug the charger it goes screens go black and MBP is non functioning. This happened three times this week in the middle of recording takes with the charger plugged in and battery at 100 % so the problem was getting worse and non avoidable. I used to run with the charger 24-7 and never had a problem unless I unplugged the charger. Upon unplugging the charger my control surface and or midi keyboard would stop working, even with 80-90% battery. My computer was stalling, insane boot up times, beach balling on stupid stuff like typing a password. They replaced the battery and there was an issue with something on the logic board that was replaced. I asked last night if keeping the new battery fully charged would hurt it or affect performance and was told that the lithium batteries do not need training or special care. 100% battery to 0% then charged back to 100% is one battery power cycle. The newer batteries have a more efficient and longer cycle / life span vs the 2012 I had. My MBP 9.1 15.5" 750GB 16gb Ram. With the charger plugged in the fan is constantly on and definitely audible within 3-5 feet. The only time the fan isn't bad is when the computer is powered up but after 15 min fans are screaming. I have one extra screen, interface, control surface, Midi keyboard, ilok, track ball, and two external drives, every port is used plus hubs!
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