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Post by john on Jun 8, 2017 8:14:26 GMT -6
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Post by swurveman on Jun 8, 2017 8:16:03 GMT -6
We bought a late 2013 27" iMac last year for around $2300 USD. It was fully loaded except for a Retina screen. 3.5ghz i7, 32 gigs RAM, fusion drive, 4 gig video, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt etc. Plenty fast enough for us but we don't run 100's of tracks with virtual instruments. Are you using one hard drive (fusion) or do you use other external drives as well?
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Post by rowmat on Jun 8, 2017 8:26:05 GMT -6
We bought a late 2013 27" iMac last year for around $2300 USD. It was fully loaded except for a Retina screen. 3.5ghz i7, 32 gigs RAM, fusion drive, 4 gig video, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt etc. Plenty fast enough for us but we don't run 100's of tracks with virtual instruments. Are you using one hard drive (fusion) or do you use other external drives as well? Using external 7200 RPM 2TB drives for storage. I was initially contemplating replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD but the IMac boots in around 15 secs and does everything we need it to thus far. I may eventually install a 2TB SSD when the prices have dropped a little more as it would be faster for running virtual instruments. We have the Hammersmith virtual piano and I would like to install a few more instruments.
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Post by swurveman on Jun 8, 2017 8:48:24 GMT -6
Are you using one hard drive (fusion) or do you use other external drives as well? Using external 7200 RPM 2TB drives for storage. I was initially contemplating replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD but the IMac boots in around 15 secs and does everything we need it to thus far. I may eventually install a 2TB SSD when the prices have dropped a little more as it would be faster for running virtual instruments. We have the Hammersmith virtual piano and I would like to install a few more instruments. So, are you saying that when you're working on your audio projects you use only the Fusion drive, but when done you offload it to a storage drive? Sorry, just trying to understand how people are using these one internal drive Mac's for audio.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 8, 2017 8:59:31 GMT -6
Using external 7200 RPM 2TB drives for storage. I was initially contemplating replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD but the IMac boots in around 15 secs and does everything we need it to thus far. I may eventually install a 2TB SSD when the prices have dropped a little more as it would be faster for running virtual instruments. We have the Hammersmith virtual piano and I would like to install a few more instruments. So, are you saying that when you're working on your audio projects you use only the Fusion drive, but when done you offload it to a storage drive? Sorry, just trying to understand how people are using these one internal drive Mac's for audio. Sorry I wasn't clear. All project files are saved to, and run from, an external 2TB drive which is backed up to a second 2TB drive. The internal iMac fusion drive runs the OS and apps. I'm about to also install a NAS runnng another pair of mirrored 2TB drives for additional backup storage. This will be located inside the house and connected to the studio building via a network cable.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 8, 2017 9:17:59 GMT -6
Using external 7200 RPM 2TB drives for storage. I was initially contemplating replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD but the IMac boots in around 15 secs and does everything we need it to thus far. I may eventually install a 2TB SSD when the prices have dropped a little more as it would be faster for running virtual instruments. We have the Hammersmith virtual piano and I would like to install a few more instruments. So, are you saying that when you're working on your audio projects you use only the Fusion drive, but when done you offload it to a storage drive? Sorry, just trying to understand how people are using these one internal drive Mac's for audio. I have a 500GB SSD in my rMBP. Everything runs off of and saves to that internal drive. Then I back up to cloud storage.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 8, 2017 13:02:53 GMT -6
So, are you saying that when you're working on your audio projects you use only the Fusion drive, but when done you offload it to a storage drive? Sorry, just trying to understand how people are using these one internal drive Mac's for audio. I have a 500GB SSD in my rMBP. Everything runs off of and saves to that internal drive. Then I back up to cloud storage. How is the computer under full load at the end of the mix ? Hot to the touch ? Do you have to keep the battery charged the whole time ? How loud is the fans mine get real loud even after cleaning and dust removal ... johnWhat configuration did you get ? Domyou have to wait or are the machines already being built? Do you work with two screens? If so are they side by side or cascaded vertical? I work with two screens and am trying to think about mix position and sonics having two big screens side by side.. ( iMac and separate Samsung 27" ) With my MBP I have the second screen on a stand raised 4" above and behind the MBP screen but not sure how this would work with an iMac lol
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 8, 2017 13:20:43 GMT -6
As much as I hate to say this, I really might have to go PC next time. The favorite Mac Pro for the creative people is still the 2009 MacPro. You can get them for little money and they are still very powerful computers.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 8, 2017 13:25:28 GMT -6
As much as I hate to say this, I really might have to go PC next time. The favorite Mac Pro for the creative people is still the 2009 MacPro. You can get them for little money and they are still very powerful computers. You cannot update the 2009-2011 to new OS X, ( I think Mavericks or Yosemite was last ) so they are locked in. Which for some may be what they want for a studio computer if they have a set workflow and don't rely on the plugs and daw updates.. Now for others who like new plugins and like to stay current being tied to old OS X will be prohibitive.. A lot of people have said they want a 2017 cheese grater lol for the new MP
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Post by john on Jun 8, 2017 13:27:27 GMT -6
I have a 500GB SSD in my rMBP. Everything runs off of and saves to that internal drive. Then I back up to cloud storage. How is the computer under full load at the end of the mix ? Hot to the touch ? Do you have to keep the battery charged the whole time ? How loud is the fans mine get real loud even after cleaning and dust removal ... john What configuration did you get ? Domyou have to wait or are the machines already being built? Do you work with two screens? If so are they side by side or cascaded vertical? I work with two screens and am trying to think about mix position and sonics having two big screens side by side.. ( iMac and separate Samsung 27" ) With my MBP I have the second screen on a stand raised 4" above and behind the MBP screen but not sure how this would work with an iMac lol I got the lowest 27" but upgraded to 16gb ram. certainly miles beyond my old laptop. should receive early next week. I only work with one screen. I don't use virtual instruments or many plug ins but I need a reliable system for audio and light video work. rumor was that the imacs wouldn't come until the fall so having it months earlier is a bonus for me.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jun 8, 2017 17:42:40 GMT -6
Beware that IMacs have been becoming less and less modifiable or upgradable.
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Post by rowmat on Jun 8, 2017 18:13:53 GMT -6
Beware that IMacs have been becoming less and less modifiable or upgradable. When Apple released the first MacBook Pro around 2012 with non upgradable (soldered) RAM a fellow on the 'other' forum proudly announced he had just purchased a new MBP with minimum RAM because he refused to pay Apple's exhorbitant upgrade prices and was going to upgrade the RAM himself for a much cheaper cost. Needless to say his bubble was quickly burst when he was informed his MBP had non upgradable RAM.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 8, 2017 18:17:46 GMT -6
Well you can unsolder it and put in more but you void your warranty ?
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Post by rowmat on Jun 8, 2017 18:19:42 GMT -6
Well you can unsolder it and put in more but you void your warranty ? I wouldn't count on it. You'll probably find the BIOS is factory programmed only to work with the RAM it comes with. Change it and you may brick your Mac.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 8, 2017 18:36:13 GMT -6
You are probably right
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Post by rowmat on Jun 8, 2017 18:40:59 GMT -6
Arrogant Profit Producing Litigious Enterprise
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 8, 2017 18:47:08 GMT -6
but they taste good in pies !!
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Post by reddirt on Jun 8, 2017 19:04:52 GMT -6
Arrogant Profit Producing Litigious Enterprise
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Post by reddirt on Jun 8, 2017 19:06:37 GMT -6
Oops , meant to say ' Don't be like that they might sue you!'! Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 9, 2017 0:37:13 GMT -6
On a cooking note not all apples are good for baking ! ya I heard about that glue too:drag !
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 9, 2017 18:59:41 GMT -6
The favorite Mac Pro for the creative people is still the 2009 MacPro. You can get them for little money and they are still very powerful computers. You cannot update the 2009-2011 to new OS X, ( I think Mavericks or Yosemite was last ) so they are locked in. Which for some may be what they want for a studio computer if they have a set workflow and don't rely on the plugs and daw updates.. Now for others who like new plugins and like to stay current being tied to old OS X will be prohibitive.. A lot of people have said they want a 2017 cheese grater lol for the new MP You cant update the first generation mac pros 1.1 you can update all the others... with some updating trick you also can update the mac pro 1.1 what I did and use without any trouble...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 9, 2017 22:45:48 GMT -6
Glad you are up and running! I am just relating what I have seen posted from other users of MBP/ IMac/ Mac Pro from 2009-2011
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Post by rowmat on Jun 9, 2017 23:08:31 GMT -6
I updated friend's mid 2011 MacBook with a SSD and increased the ram from 4gb to 16gb even though Apple specc'd 8gb as the maximum. It went from around a 2 1/2 minute boot time to around 20 secs.
Definately worth it unless you absolutely need the latest thing which is probably going to be dictated by the need to run live virtual instruments in conjunction with loads of tracks and plugins.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jun 10, 2017 16:15:07 GMT -6
I just read that the new iMacs have upgradable RAM and CPUs again!!!
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Post by swurveman on Jun 11, 2017 7:01:15 GMT -6
I just read that the new iMacs have upgradable RAM and CPUs again!!! Just read this from ifixit 63 steps to accomplish upgrading the RAM.
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