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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 23, 2017 11:47:53 GMT -6
Anyone have any links to examples? Sorry, I couldn't remember which Symphony thread we were discussing this in so I thought I'd just make a new one. I'd love to see what the difference was. Please post any videos or links you've found.
The mkI's are a freaking steal right now.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2017 10:19:22 GMT -6
Hey - one of you mkii guys - so the 2x6 is basically the exact same as having a mkI? Or is it a new clock, but same adda?
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Post by ragan on Nov 4, 2017 10:47:47 GMT -6
Hey - one of you mkii guys - so the 2x6 is basically the exact same as having a mkI? Or is it a new clock, but same adda? They didn’t make MKII 2x6s so it’s the MKI ADDA in a MKII chassis. Clock is a good question. Is that on the card or in the chassis? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 4, 2017 12:26:57 GMT -6
I understand the mkii is a new pcb so seems 2 different clocks ?
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 5, 2017 15:03:57 GMT -6
I think that’s what it is - new clock, but cards have different adda.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 5, 2017 16:15:09 GMT -6
Also, I thought the MK I only works with the older software, and that you'd have to use older versions of your DAW, or something like that. I saw one somewhere for $1,000, and that's very tempting since I could get more than that for my Apollo, and keep my satellite.
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Post by ragan on Nov 5, 2017 16:46:47 GMT -6
Also, I thought the MK I only works with the older software, and that you'd have to use older versions of your DAW, or something like that. I saw one somewhere for $1,000, and that's very tempting since I could get more than that for my Apollo, and keep my satellite. It doesn’t affect what version of your DAW you use. You just don’t get the slicker new app for monitoring. |
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Post by matt on Nov 6, 2017 8:50:04 GMT -6
Also, I thought the MK I only works with the older software, and that you'd have to use older versions of your DAW, or something like that. I saw one somewhere for $1,000, and that's very tempting since I could get more than that for my Apollo, and keep my satellite. Symphony MK1 works fine with OS X 10.12, any current DAW, and the previous/last version of Maestro 2. Firmware updates require your source Mac to be on OS X 10.10 or earlier. This will be a pain in the future if Apogee publishes a desirable firmware update for MK1 and keeps the OS X limitation for the update process. As of today, I would need to build a partition with Mavericks just to perform a firmware update. Lame. So without new firmware MK1 owners are stuck on OS X 10.12 and will probably always be stuck on Maestro 2 for the control software. It's not a problem now, but two years from now, who knows. Apple will continue to update OS X regardless, and eventually compatibility can/will become an issue unless Apogee steps up and continues to support MK1 on versions of OS X as they are released. Symphony MK1 firmware update page |
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Post by joseph on Nov 6, 2017 9:22:46 GMT -6
Also, I thought the MK I only works with the older software, and that you'd have to use older versions of your DAW, or something like that. I saw one somewhere for $1,000, and that's very tempting since I could get more than that for my Apollo, and keep my satellite. Symphony MK1 works fine with OS X 10.12, any current DAW, and the previous/last version of Maestro 2. Firmware updates require your source Mac to be on OS X 10.10 or earlier. This will be a pain in the future if Apogee publishes a desirable firmware update for MK1 and keeps the OS X limitation for the update process. As of today, I would need to build a partition with Mavericks just to perform a firmware update. Lame. So without new firmware MK1 owners are stuck on OS X 10.12 and will probably always be stuck on Maestro 2 for the control software. It's not a problem now, but two years from now, who knows. Apple will continue to update OS X regardless, and eventually compatibility can/will become an issue unless Apogee steps up and continues to support MK1 on versions of OS X as they are released. Symphony MK1 firmware update pageYou could also probably do VirtualBox or another VM with Mavericks install. That would mean you don't need to create a physical partition. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2023 12:43:34 GMT -6
Started a new thread…then realized I should have searched! Anyway - what do people think about these two? There are smoking deals on the mki silvers…and with the Trinnov, I’m just really not sure I need to have $4500 (Burl) invested in 2 channels of conversion. Any thoughts?
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 13, 2023 13:36:55 GMT -6
Ah no offense John but I sold you my mkii and you sold in like a month, why do you think you would prefer a mki ? Just cus its cheap ?
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Post by bradd on Sept 13, 2023 14:14:11 GMT -6
You'll want to check to see if a Mark I will work with your Mac. I'm due for a new computer and it is my understanding that my MKI won't work with the current Macs.
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2023 14:17:44 GMT -6
You'll want to check to see if a Mark I will work with your Mac. I'm due for a new computer and it is my understanding that my MKI won't work with the current Macs. I'm using a M1 Mac Studio/Monterey OS and a Symphony mkI and it works perfectly for me. No issues at all. |
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Post by bradd on Sept 13, 2023 14:25:40 GMT -6
Interesting. Maybe I'll be able to save some money after all.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 13, 2023 14:47:38 GMT -6
Ah no offense John but I sold you my mkii and you sold in like a month, why do you think you would prefer a mki ? Just cus its cheap ? Did I? I have a vague recollection. I think at the time I wanted to get back in to Apollo world but I couldn’t keep both. I’d still venture to say the Apogee mkII would be better than the Apollo x6 (which I’d keep for the front end and then use the Apogee like a standalone box.) But yeah…probably not worth the hassle. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 13, 2023 15:21:58 GMT -6
I wasn’t making fun. At the time we discussed the upgrade mki to mkii being better DA, conversion etc..
We don’t need to restart Converter wars, but unless you want Luna, I don’t see the point of Apollo.
The uadx plugs make on board apollo and satellites. Arguably irrelevant, unless you track with ua plugs, but i’d argue use hardware on the way in anyway.
And after having Apollo X , Symphony mkii and Aurora N
, the Aurora N stayed here.
I’d be prepared to make a mkii is better value argument ad it sounds great and unlike the Aurora doesn’t have the built in (not optional) sd card .
In your case, i’d also suggest the apogee 2x6 se mastering 2 channel card, as its supposed to be even better sound then the
mkii stock?
Anyway, just spitballing, have fun !
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Post by yotonic on Sept 13, 2023 15:51:32 GMT -6
In your case, i’d also suggest the apogee 2x6 se mastering 2 channel card, as its supposed to be even better sound then the mkii stock? I have a couple of the 2x6 SE mastering 2 channels and they are amazing. Happy from day 1. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 13, 2023 17:19:38 GMT -6
I recall and thought they must sound great !
When I had my 16, i kept my eyes out for the 2x6se module used but never saw one.
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Post by copperx on Sept 13, 2023 17:35:11 GMT -6
So what happened with the mkI loud fan issue? Is that still an issue if you install two cards?
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Post by bradd on Sept 13, 2023 19:49:28 GMT -6
I’ve had 24 I/o in my mkI for years and have never heard the fan. I think that may have been a problem with some of the earlier units.
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