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Post by swurveman on Mar 2, 2017 9:23:00 GMT -6
Anybody try both. If so, what was your impression?
The Waves is on sale at Plugin Discounts for $74.24. I demo'd it and liked it, but I've already demo'd the UAD EMT 140. So, I couldn't really do and a/b like I'd like to.
BTW: It would help these company's imo if they would let you re-demo after a period of time. I demo'd both the 140 and 250 about three years ago and bought the 250. So, having demo'd the 140 I can't do it again. I may pull the trigger on the Waves because it's half the price of the UAD.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 2, 2017 9:25:58 GMT -6
No UAD, but really dig the Waves. PSP 2445 is a killer character verb too.
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Post by Randge on Mar 2, 2017 11:22:43 GMT -6
If you buy any UAD plugin, the demos start over.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 2, 2017 12:34:24 GMT -6
I use the Altiverb EMT 140 all the time and really like it. I've never compared it to the Waves or UAD though.
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Post by veggieryan on Mar 2, 2017 12:48:53 GMT -6
I think this plugin is one of the only or very few instances where Waves is better than UAD... the UAD 140 is many years old by now and the Waves plate really seems to be closer to the real thing to my ear. It does use some CPU though. I hope UAD takes this opportunity to update their 140 using the new techniques they used for the BX20 which is clearly a few steps above.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 2, 2017 21:29:57 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2017 21:38:14 GMT -6
Yeah the Waves sounds really great. I tend to find myself using the UAD just because it's been my goto for so long...
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Post by m03 on Mar 3, 2017 9:55:40 GMT -6
Did Waves ever improve the CPU usage issues that many early adopters were complaining about, or is that just the nature of the emulation?
As far as an in-general plate reverb emulation goes, has anyone compared it with Valhalla Plate?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 3, 2017 17:07:56 GMT -6
I demoed the Valhalla Plate for a few days and it was fantastic. Just already had the Waves and UAD. Same thing with the Fabfilter Reverb.
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Post by swurveman on Mar 3, 2017 17:14:37 GMT -6
I contacted UAD support about allowing me to try the EMT 140 again and they reset it so I can. Good customer support.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 3, 2017 17:18:10 GMT -6
You have to wonder what the next steps for UA as a whole is gonna be. I mean, what direction can you go at this point?
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Post by swurveman on Mar 4, 2017 9:01:13 GMT -6
You have to wonder what the next steps for UA as a whole is gonna be. I mean, what direction can you go at this point? Seems to me that they're as integrated a company as any in the music business: Classic hardware/Plugins/Audio Interfaces. Their brand name is up there with Neve. I don't know what their books look like, but I'd be surprised if they're not a very healthy company financially that could expand in other areas. I guess we'll see. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 9:32:23 GMT -6
I just wonder what those areas are.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 4, 2017 17:43:15 GMT -6
I just wonder what those areas are. Exactly.... they are not building La3a anymore and you have to wonder how much longer they will manufacture the 1176 now that Warm, hairball, and KT have pretty damn good affordable clones.. UAD has been targeting the home / project studio for awhile. My Apollo has no preamp sends, so unless I use an external preamp I cannot track with compression into PT without a converter pass ( Set the output of the preamp channel in console to an output ( 5 ) and feed that into your comp and the output of the comin into the line input ) That's not professional level at all... Plus how many more iconic HW pieces are there they can emulate via SW..Some ideas: The Gates sta level and 176 would be cool 175 B Great river mixmaster 20 plugin Distressor I'm sure they will do more amp sims SonTec mastering eq Want to see them continue to be successful while expanding into other areas, I just don't know what those would be. I really hope they aren't working on UAD mic emlations, I assumed after having unison that was the next step. Idk how it would compete with Slate and his pricing ( im not really keen on mic emus ) |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 21:26:15 GMT -6
Seems like they're taking the "Neumann" approach with the mic pre sends..."why do you need a real compressor when you could use a UAD plugin?"
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Post by mitchkricun on Mar 5, 2017 10:22:48 GMT -6
I think this plugin is one of the only or very few instances where Waves is better than UAD... the UAD 140 is many years old by now and the Waves plate really seems to be closer to the real thing to my ear. It does use some CPU though. I concur. |
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Post by Guitar on Mar 7, 2017 10:21:30 GMT -6
I like both of them fairly well. I think they are different enough to be different, equally useful tools. Like having two different plates.
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Post by laurip1 on Apr 19, 2017 4:19:08 GMT -6
I own and use the UAD EMT 140 and really like it. The room setting works great on acoustic guitars and drums. Lately, I've demoed the Waves Abbey Road on a rather crowed mix in place of the UAD . Feels good to me. I do prefer the UAD ergonomic, but sound wise, the Waves seems to fit (a little) better in dense mixes. But the warmth of the UAD on small ensembles is second to none, to my taste. May I say I'm not a reverb guy?
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