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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 0:02:42 GMT -6
Wow... just wow!!!
I'm a little late to this party, but I picked up a pair of the 500 series Electras this week and I'm seriously blown away. Tried them today on Kick, Snare, Bass, Mix Buss, and Saxophone and these things slayed on all of them. Rarely have I had this type of reaction to a piece of gear. I've got a decent collection of nice gear that I didn't react to this quickly. I felt an instant comfort level with these. No break in period needed. I have no doubt whatsoever that these things are gonna see a ton of use. I'm so impressed I'm gonna buy a couple more ASAP. They are so incredibly musical
Hats off to Gregory at Kush Audio and to Brad McGowan for designing such an amazing piece.
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Post by schmalzy on Feb 17, 2017 3:02:41 GMT -6
While not "the same," I really dig the plugin version of the Electra. They've been integrated into and seeing a lot of use my workflow since I got them. I thought I was going to be using the Kush Hammer EQ plugin most. Negative, Electra is finding its way all over my tracks.
Notable too is how affordable their 500-series Electras are. If they're as good as the plugins are (and I bet they're even better), then they're worth every penny.
They're one of a few pieces of gear that is seriously making me consider diving in to 500 series stuff.
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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 8:10:33 GMT -6
The hardware is definitely special. These EQ's do something none of my other EQ's do
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2017 9:20:54 GMT -6
Any issue with the lack of steps and marking ?
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Post by john on Feb 17, 2017 9:22:04 GMT -6
I had a pair of 500 series. I did find them to be very effective. I thought the price was quite low considering the competition but when I got them I remember feeling like they were of semi-cheap build. No casing, light as a feather, sorta flimsy and one of my unit's bottom knobs would not stay on no matter what I did. I'm not saying they are cheap or weak. Just that side by side with something more expensive its obvious where the money is going. Super effective eq's though and also unique/fun design. Someday I'd like to have another pair.
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Post by john on Feb 17, 2017 9:28:00 GMT -6
Any issue with the lack of steps and marking ? there are small markings. no issues for me. recall it like reading a clock and keep it moving. a stepped version would be killer though.
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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 9:36:16 GMT -6
Any issue with the lack of steps and marking ? It's not an issue for me personally. I have always been one for the sound. If it sounds better it is better. So I'm cool with or without markings. I've spent a lot of time identifying frequencies by ear, and sometimes markings don't seem so accurate to me anyways. So for me, it's not bothersome
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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 10:41:56 GMT -6
And the love for these things continues today. More mixing today and the best way I can describe it is that these things just sound effortless. Like they are not trying, they are just doing. Not strident in any way. And yet they are imparting something sweet and intangible while being very natural. Ok, I'll stop gushing... for now, lol 😀
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Post by Randge on Feb 17, 2017 13:56:59 GMT -6
I use my pair for drums more than anything. I can really carve a sound out that I'm shooting for without it sounding like the phase is shifting tons.
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Post by channelcat on Feb 17, 2017 14:04:06 GMT -6
Anyone have experience with both these and the Purple ODDs or CAPI BT50s?
Stu
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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 15:04:41 GMT -6
Anyone have experience with both these and the Purple ODDs or CAPI BT50s? Stu My Electras are in a Purple Sweet Ten rack. I haven't tried them with the Odd's or BT50
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Post by BradM on Feb 17, 2017 15:15:32 GMT -6
While not "the same," I really dig the plugin version of the Electra. They've been integrated into and seeing a lot of use my workflow since I got them. I thought I was going to be using the Kush Hammer EQ plugin most. Negative, Electra is finding its way all over my tracks. Notable too is how affordable their 500-series Electras are. If they're as good as the plugins are (and I bet they're even better), then they're worth every penny. They're one of a few pieces of gear that is seriously making me consider diving in to 500 series stuff. Thanks for all the love guys! I use mine in my studio all the time and sometimes I have to pinch myself that it wasn't really a dream that I helped make these beauties. Regarding the plugin.... Can someone please tell me what the trick is regarding the UI and getting the frequency knob to turn. I just can't figure out where to click for the life of me and it drives me bonkers. I personally think the hardware sounds a hair sweeter on the top end from my casual listening comparison to the plugin. Regarding john 's comment on build quality... Adding a metal enclosure to a product like the Electra serves no purpose other than to drive up the price. There is nothing on the board to support (or shield) except a handful of IC's resistors, and capacitors. Heavy may feel nice in the hand, but it also drives up shipping costs. Once it goes in the rack you never see or feel that stuff. So the decision was made to leave out non-value added features like an enclosure, and instead create something exceptional sounding at a price that slays the competition. I feel we accomplished that. If you ever want the full experience, check out a Chop Shop alongside it sometime. I designed it to be Robin to the Electra's Batman. I can't wait to use my Electras to mix vocals on this children's record I'm doing. Brad
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2017 16:05:23 GMT -6
Robin to Batman : can you explain that in sonic terms: how do they compliment each other ?
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Post by BradM on Feb 17, 2017 16:25:52 GMT -6
Robin to Batman : can you explain that in sonic terms: how do they compliment each other ? Hi Matt, Well, right after we finished the Electra, I designed the Chop Shop right to be a companion piece that could address the way I like to mix bass guitar. It was all the remaining filtering features I thought would be awesome to have in a comprehensive dream EQ: low pass filter (6 or 12 dB/oct), high pass filter with variable resonance (bump), and a tilt-style filter I call Focus with two center frequency options. Like the Electra, it's the kind of EQ that invites you to turn knobs until it sounds good. Due to the physical real estate limitions of a 500 series faceplate, you can only fit so many knobs and switches so it meant making two separate modules. The Electra and Chop Shop share the exact same circuit topology in terms of being a low-noise, high bandwidth design using the same LME49720 op amps, with no electrolytics in the signal path. Technically the Electra has one electrolytic bypassed with a film cap, but there's a jumper to set it to DC coupled. The Chop Shop instead has a DC servo, and it, too, can be defeated via a jumper. The caps are the same Wima MKP2 and FKP2 film types throughout. Both circuits have the same power supply decoupling giving them both huge resevoirs of current on demand, which helps both keep low end transients punchy. If you like the sound of the Electra, you'll like the sound (or rather lack thereof) of the Chop Shop. And vice versa. Brad
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2017 16:33:58 GMT -6
Thx. I was up on your LTL site the other day reading about the ChopShop and given your back ground with the E, wondered about their complementarities and/or dissimilarities
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 17, 2017 17:33:25 GMT -6
I had a pair of Electra's a while back, they definitely do something unique. They changed the sound of drums without making them sound EQ'd. Very clean and transparent but also they reacted in a different way than any other EQ I've used.
That being said, I sold them. I'm sure I'm in the minority but they just didn't do what I wanted them to. I learned that I like my EQ's vibey and colored (like my ez1073 EQ's and my CL 7602). They are very quality pieces however and I admire Kush Audio as a company.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 17, 2017 20:36:39 GMT -6
I had a pair of Electra's a while back, they definitely do something unique. They changed the sound of drums without making them sound EQ'd. Very clean and transparent but also they reacted in a different way than any other EQ I've used. That being said, I sold them. I'm sure I'm in the minority but they just didn't do what I wanted them to. I learned that I like my EQ's vibey and colored (like my ez1073 EQ's and my CL 7602). They are very quality pieces however and I admire Kush Audio as a company. Welcome, Tbone81
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Post by stratboy on Feb 18, 2017 12:21:56 GMT -6
I had a pair of Electra's a while back, they definitely do something unique. They changed the sound of drums without making them sound EQ'd. Very clean and transparent but also they reacted in a different way than any other EQ I've used. That being said, I sold them. I'm sure I'm in the minority but they just didn't do what I wanted them to. I learned that I like my EQ's vibey and colored (like my ez1073 EQ's and my CL 7602). They are very quality pieces however and I admire Kush Audio as a company. Yes, welcome to RGO!
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 18, 2017 21:58:37 GMT -6
Thanks guys, I've spent lots of time reading forums but very little time actually participating. So far I'm enjoying RGO much better than the "other" forum we all love to hate, lol.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 18, 2017 22:01:03 GMT -6
Tbone81 I really want to give you an avatar...
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 18, 2017 22:10:59 GMT -6
I'm game
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Post by schmalzy on Feb 18, 2017 22:51:30 GMT -6
Regarding the plugin.... Can someone please tell me what the trick is regarding the UI and getting the frequency knob to turn. I just can't figure out where to click for the life of me and it drives me bonkers. I personally think the hardware sounds a hair sweeter on the top end from my casual listening comparison to the plugin. Brad Yo, Brad! Just click and drag up and down on the white ring around the outside of the black "knob." Silver knob "on top of" a black knob - I forget what they call that sort of pot/dial mounting...concentric, maybe? Let me know if that makes sense!
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Post by BradM on Feb 19, 2017 13:15:46 GMT -6
Yo, Brad! Just click and drag up and down on the white ring around the outside of the black "knob." Silver knob "on top of" a black knob - I forget what they call that sort of pot/dial mounting...concentric, maybe? Let me know if that makes sense! Thanks! No offense to the guy that did the GUI design, but that is not intuitive at all. You would think if I wanted to move a knob I would actually click on a knob graphic... Okay enough griping and back to using the actual hardware... Brad
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Post by drsax on Mar 25, 2017 11:21:43 GMT -6
After working with the Electra 500's for the last few weeks, I am more and more impressed. So musical. It's almost like there's something magical inside that fixes phase anomalies. You think the track sounds great and then you put the Electra on, tweak it a bit and it's at that moment you realize that what the Electra is doing is something extra special. Never strained, or harsh... just sounds effortless
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2017 12:09:13 GMT -6
Anyone tried the plug?
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