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Post by spock on Feb 28, 2017 12:27:45 GMT -6
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Post by spock on Mar 1, 2017 20:48:37 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 1, 2017 22:38:19 GMT -6
Damn. To be a fly on the wall in that session.
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Post by spock on Mar 1, 2017 22:46:26 GMT -6
Damn. To be a fly on the wall in that session. I bet you could hear the fly scratch its legs...
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Post by donr on Mar 1, 2017 22:51:14 GMT -6
Damn. To be a fly on the wall in that session. I bet you could hear the fly scratch its legs... Do flies fart? (pardon the OT. Referencing LDC sensitivity. )
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 1, 2017 23:51:40 GMT -6
Look at the size of those .....😂
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Post by Ward on Mar 2, 2017 6:10:10 GMT -6
Do flies fart? (pardon the OT. Referencing LDC sensitivity. ) I'm pretty sure farts fly.
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Post by Ward on Mar 2, 2017 7:54:32 GMT -6
Do flies fart? (pardon the OT. Referencing LDC sensitivity. ) I'm pretty sure farts fly. But we should call in spock for an expert opinion on whether or not the Chandler Redd Mic can handle flying farts as well as a U47 can.
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Post by roundbadge on Mar 4, 2017 18:01:17 GMT -6
My friend just brought over his shiny brand new Tele USA Elam 251. He's a 251 lover.Owned an original about 7 years ago.his all time favorite mic. We did a comparison on 2 male singers. Elam directly into vintage Neve 1084.cut flat,no eq or high pass. Redd mic with and without the low contour engaged. The Redd mic stomped the 251,which kinda sounded weird by comparison,an irritating thing happening around 4-5k.and more scooped,smaller and but at the same time needed de essing right from the get go. He's taking back the 251 and ordering the Redd.saved himself 4K to boot.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 4, 2017 18:14:51 GMT -6
My friend just brought over his shiny brand new Tele USA Elam 251. He's a 251 lover.Owned an original about 7 years ago.his all time favorite mic. We did a comparison on 2 male singers. Elam directly into vintage Neve 1084.cut flat,no eq or high pass. Redd mic with and without the low contour engaged. The Redd mic stomped the 251,which kinda sounded weird by comparison,an irritating thing happening around 4-5k.and more scooped,smaller and but at the same time needed de essing right from the get go. He's taking back the 251 and ordering the Redd.saved himself 4K to boot. Urgh. You're killin' me, smalls. Killin' me.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 18:49:32 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge, you need to get to know Shannon.
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Post by c0rtland on Mar 4, 2017 18:49:49 GMT -6
I can't for the life of me understand modern classic microphone companies. They are completely ignoring their customers. Maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe they are just too big to shift their paths. Just seems like they are blatantly ignoring the opportunity that is screaming at them. The demand is unreal. The market is being eaten up with new, great companies and they are just aparantly sitting there.
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Post by aremos on Mar 4, 2017 19:12:49 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge , you need to get to know Shannon. If you didn't have the Upton you'd go with the Redd? I saw on the "67" thread that you were also considering that one (Max i/o) ... maybe? Knowing that you haven't A/B'd the Upton & the Redd it seems you're very (beyond) impressed with this one? Am very curious about your memory & the sounds of these. Eventually I think you'll get to A/B 'em.
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Post by roundbadge on Mar 4, 2017 19:15:36 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge, you need to get to know Shannon. I've heard great things about him. But after this comparison why anyone would buy an 8.5k telefunken is beyond me. I Actually got a tele 251 in a trade a few years back then sold it.
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2017 20:22:17 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge, you need to get to know Shannon. I've heard great things about him. But after this comparison why anyone would buy an 8.5k telefunken is beyond me. I Actually got a tele 251 in a trade a few years back then sold it. Yeah but what haven't you sold at one time ?😎
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2017 20:27:32 GMT -6
I bet you could hear the fly scratch its legs... Do flies fart? (pardon the OT. Referencing LDC sensitivity. ) I see this product in the future Our new Flyfunk FF12 tube is the most glorious modern replacement for your U47 the metal housing contains our special mixture of Vintage species fly farts, recreating the tone only fly farts can, in our very small metal can!
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 20:58:01 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge , you need to get to know Shannon. If you didn't have the Upton you'd go with the Redd? I saw on the "67" thread that you were also considering that one (Max i/o) ... maybe? Knowing that you haven't A/B'd the Upton & the Redd it seems you're very (beyond) impressed with this one? Am very curious about your memory & the sounds of these. Eventually I think you'll get to A/B 'em. Most likely. I mean once you get to a certain quality it then just becomes which tonal thing you're going for. I sang through the Redd and we listened for about an hour. I thought it was very round. The mids reminded me of a 251. But I wasn't in front of my speakers in my environment. My guess is that I would have been even more impressed if we had - just because I would know how it compared to other things. I thought the Japanese thing Spock posted was a great representation. The 67 is a different sound and would be a great compliment for me to add. And you all should know by now that no piece of gear is safe in my hands. Lol
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 21:00:38 GMT -6
Yeah between those two I'd get the redd. If I didn't already have an Upton... roundbadge, you need to get to know Shannon. I've heard great things about him. But after this comparison why anyone would buy an 8.5k telefunken is beyond me. I Actually got a tele 251 in a trade a few years back then sold it. Why anyone would buy a non-vintage mic over $5 k is a mystery to me too. to me, the REDD is a fantastic value considering you get another flavor of pre too. Obviously, you can only use it with the mic, but that would free up another pre.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 21:01:43 GMT -6
I've heard great things about him. But after this comparison why anyone would buy an 8.5k telefunken is beyond me. I Actually got a tele 251 in a trade a few years back then sold it. Yeah but what haven't you sold at one time ?😎 I'm glad to see someone else taking gas heat besides me around here.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2017 21:23:30 GMT -6
Here's my best vote of confidence for the Chandler...it doesn't need Shannon.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 4, 2017 21:32:17 GMT -6
Here's my best vote of confidence for the Chandler...it doesn't need Shannon. ...but the Upton does...hmm...
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2017 21:35:21 GMT -6
Yeah but what haven't you sold at one time ?😎 I'm glad to see someone else taking gas heat besides me around here. Yeah but thank god you and RB have I know your taste's and how it translates to my own ! Plus Hunter has always danced to the beat of a different drummer so he's a great source of knowledge about some of the less common stuff! Now being the retired / disabled gear pimp my budget isn't anywhere near either of yours so my purchases of the Highend are fewer so having you guys and a few others I trust is worth your combined weight in gold ! The funny thing is I probably buy and sell as much as JK I just do it more quietly!
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2017 21:39:25 GMT -6
Here's my best vote of confidence for the Chandler...it doesn't need Shannon. Big compliment there! but you do have to wonder how far Shannon could push it ! I mean it doesn't need Shannon, but then dose a Porsche Boxter S need a Full Kelly Moss Twin turbo treatment ? You say no , but once you drive one.......
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 4, 2017 21:44:45 GMT -6
After doing my high end mic shootout last summer, I learned the U67 was the best fit for my voice. I'd love to see how the Chandler REDD would sound side by side a vintage U67. I'd be thrilled if I liked it better. Only then would I know the absolute best mic for me would be the REDD, and it wouldn't cost $10,000 - $15,000. The truth of what i'm looking for is peace of mind. If a $600 mic did it for me, I'd be one happy vocalist.
But it's good to know your benchmarks. To think the REDD could equal the quality of the U47 or U67 at half the cost is exciting. Even if I can't afford one now, it's great to know where to aim your sights.
Around 20 years ago, I did a live recording with a vintage C12 in mint condition. I thought it was the finest thing I'd ever heard. I was well acquainted with a U87's sound, but that was the limit of my knowledge then. Now, a C12 sounds weird to me, sort of hollow in places. After my shootout, I honestly wouldn't choose it over the $2,000 Blackspade I used to own or the $2,000 Soyuz FET 0-19.
So, in a holy grail search for my personal most compatible mic, I'd now have to try the Neumann TLM 67 with the Max Mod kit, the Soyuz 0-17 tube version, and the Chandler REDD, and then I'd know which mic would be the best mic that I can possibly afford at some point. Hmm.. now, how all I have to do is get all three in one place..
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Post by ericn on Mar 4, 2017 21:45:15 GMT -6
I've heard great things about him. But after this comparison why anyone would buy an 8.5k telefunken is beyond me. I Actually got a tele 251 in a trade a few years back then sold it. Why anyone would buy a non-vintage mic over $5 k is a mystery to me too. to me, the REDD is a fantastic value considering you get another flavor of pre too. Obviously, you can only use it with the mic, but that would free up another pre. Here's my take at this point if your tired of most of the Guys who are buying the same capsules Transformers and such your not left with a lot, and even less buyers So companies like Josephson and a few others charge the big bucks because that's what it costs to build something different, but how many companies are building their own mics? OK Bock has the 409, but Brauner isn't making capsules.
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