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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2017 16:54:19 GMT -6
I just got mine! I wanted an analog "centerpiece" for my studio and after weighing all the options I settled on this. I haven't had time to fully test it yet, but I like what I hear so far! Any other users around? Any fav settings? I just learned that they are going to debut some kind of plugin version of it at NAMM...
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 25, 2017 15:36:40 GMT -6
So I tested the plugin. I think it's good, but it's not exactly like the hardware. I tried it on a drum bus, same settings, both plugin and hardware sounded good, but different. The hardware does sound better!
Shame, I was thinking of using the plugin as a stand-in for the hardware, but I don't think I'll be doing that.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 25, 2017 16:32:05 GMT -6
Really want one of these. I put myself on a buying freeze after a bunch of purchases, including a Foote P3EX, Silver Bullet and Hendyamps Michelangelo, all which is a lot of mojo on my 2-buss. If the plugin comes close, then that might be very interesting for me.
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Post by roundbadge on Jan 25, 2017 19:26:51 GMT -6
yeah I have one. really dig it. mix buss:Shadow Hills-Pultecs-HG2 both knobs 12 o'clock to 1 o'clock or a little above.saturation usually off.air off. sometimes slammed on a parallel buss. its real cool for tracking too.
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Post by roundbadge on Jan 25, 2017 19:28:37 GMT -6
Really want one of these. I put myself on a buying freeze after a bunch of purchases, including a Foote P3EX, Silver Bullet and Hendyamps Michelangelo, all which is a lot of mojo on my 2-buss. If the plugin comes close, then that might be very interesting for me. totally agree re plug.the effect is there but not the depth. its all about the depth..for me.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jan 26, 2017 9:17:41 GMT -6
I wish them great success but that price may price them out of the market.. $249 is way too rich for my blood. I didn't expect this to be 90% of the HW, however I expected people To actually go crazy about it and the reaction from users has been almost the opposite. Users like it but aren't experiencing the same revelation HW users are/ have and that's the issue with me. Why can't the plug have a new name and it be inspired by the hg2? That's How EL eventually marketed Arousor even though they tried saying first it was a Distressor in SW form. ..On the other hand I still want the Bx/ PA acme audio opticom xla3, now to me that's a beauty of a comp, which can also be used as a colorful Line amp 😀
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 26, 2017 12:55:57 GMT -6
I wish them great success but that price may price them out of the market.. $249 is way too rich for my blood So where/when was the price revealed? And then of course, those of us who got the hardware really want to believe that it's superior to the plugin!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 26, 2017 13:52:00 GMT -6
I wish them great success but that price may price them out of the market.. $249 is way too rich for my blood. I didn't expect this to be 90% of the HW, however I expected people To actually go crazy about it and the reaction from users has been almost the opposite. Users like it but aren't experiencing the same revelation HW users are/ have and that's the issue with me. Why can't the plug have a new name and it be inspired by the hg2? That's How EL eventually marketed Arousor even though they tried saying first it was a Distressor in SW form. ..On the other hand I still want the Bx/ PA acme audio opticom xla3, now to me that's a beauty of a comp, which can also be used as a colorful Line amp 😀 Probably be on sale for $99 at Black Friday.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 26, 2017 15:21:05 GMT -6
Is there any plug in that is not supported by David Pensado?? If he supports everything, he supports nothing??
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jan 27, 2017 13:23:01 GMT -6
I wish them great success but that price may price them out of the market.. $249 is way too rich for my blood So where/when was the price revealed? And then of course, those of us who got the hardware really want to believe that it's superior to the plugin! GS product thread the dude named brainrox ( brainworx Dirk ) announced $249, then the thread went south and every poster said the plugin sucks, well most... that's what I like about RGO, I can my voice my opinion and even if someone agrees in doesn't start a bandwagon of trashing of said product.. I wanted to demo but I don't feel like I need to pay $249 or even $149 for an emulation of distortion when I have ( cheap ) HW that produces real saturation and harmonics ( properties of gain staging the analog circuits ) 😀
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 27, 2017 14:52:59 GMT -6
So where/when was the price revealed? And then of course, those of us who got the hardware really want to believe that it's superior to the plugin! GS product thread the dude named brainrox ( brainworx Dirk ) announced $249, then the thread went south and every poster said the plugin sucks, well most... that's what I like about RGO, I can my voice my opinion and even if someone agrees in doesn't start a bandwagon of trashing of said product.. I wanted to demo but I don't feel like I need to pay $249 or even $149 for an emulation of distortion when I have ( cheap ) HW that produces real saturation and harmonics ( properties of gain staging the analog circuits ) 😀 Dude, it seems like every thread goes down like that. Most times I'm there looking for information, but I'm always just sifting through pages and pages of bickering. Good lord.
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Post by ludwigvanbeartrap on Jan 29, 2017 12:58:33 GMT -6
This box has been intriguing me for awhile now. Anyone have an opinion on when one more tube device in the chain might be one too many? Right now I'm running a 2-buss that includes a Michelangelo, Hammer2 EQ, Avalon 747 and Pendulum OCL-2. Yeah, I'm a tube slut.
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Post by drbill on Jan 29, 2017 14:09:23 GMT -6
Personally - I'd say you've got enough tubes on your 2Bus, but on individual tracks or on a group bus in the mix - yeah, some more could be good. For me, a Manley Vari-Mu is plenty of tube on the mix bus. Individual tracks are a different story. Actually, I keep my mix bus solid state until mastering. Then I go for the tubes.
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 30, 2017 12:42:06 GMT -6
A little update: with some fiddling, I've managed to leave the plugin as a stand-in for the hardware in the drum buss. It's too early in the mix to print the drums, and I want to use the hardware on the 2-buss. There's some difference in sound, but the flexibility of not being forced to print the drums more than makes up for it.
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 30, 2017 15:15:20 GMT -6
This box has been intriguing me for awhile now. Anyone have an opinion on when one more tube device in the chain might be one too many? Right now I'm running a 2-buss that includes a Michelangelo, Hammer2 EQ, Avalon 747 and Pendulum OCL-2. Yeah, I'm a tube slut. That's a really silly question. The answer is "never" - with the qualifier that tubes are not effects processors, although they can be used that way. Well designed, high quality tube gear is just as clean, if not cleaner than solid state gear and generally has better headroom. "Tube color is not the 'thing'. Why would the most linear amplifying device have a color?" - Jonte Knif
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Post by ludwigvanbeartrap on Jan 31, 2017 12:58:07 GMT -6
Well, that's been my experience, for sure, John. I just like to hear others' viewpoints...and there are plenty out there. Tubey does not = tubby. I'll bet a lot of folks would pick the track recorded through my Phoenix DRS instead of Pendulum MDP-1 if they were asked to choose which was a tube preamp. I think Greg Gualtieri designs amazing sounding tube gear. I would say that cheap tube gear (not "well designed", as you say) gives a bad name to tube gear in general.
Anyway, sorry to get off topic here. I'm interested in the HG-2 and appreciate the input so far. If it sounds much like a Culture Vulture, though, it's not really what I'm looking for.
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 1, 2017 0:33:12 GMT -6
Well, that's been my experience, for sure, John. I just like to hear others' viewpoints...and there are plenty out there. Tubey does not = tubby. I'll bet a lot of folks would pick the track recorded through my Phoenix DRS instead of Pendulum MDP-1 if they were asked to choose which was a tube preamp. I think Greg Gualtieri designs amazing sounding tube gear. I would say that cheap tube gear (not "well designed", as you say) gives a bad name to tube gear in general. Anyway, sorry to get off topic here. I'm interested in the HG-2 and appreciate the input so far. If it sounds much like a Culture Vulture, though, it's not really what I'm looking for. Of course. I was just responding to the bit about "too many tube devices in the chain", which I find a bit offensive in a purple-ish sort of way....
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Post by drbill on Feb 1, 2017 10:49:10 GMT -6
It's no more offensive than putting too many FET devices on your 2 Bus. My answer was of course just my personal opinion. Not a law.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 5, 2017 3:11:10 GMT -6
If you join or are a member of the plugin alliance they are offering intro pricing on the hg2 plugin due to the feedback they received on GS when the $249 price was announced in guessing. It was $149 plus a $25 dollar coupon like UAD does. I accidentally deleted the email or I would have posted direct quotes of the email. I was hoping the Acme Audio xla2 plug was on sale for that price 😂😂😂
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 7, 2017 19:38:01 GMT -6
Well, that's been my experience, for sure, John. I just like to hear others' viewpoints...and there are plenty out there. Tubey does not = tubby. I'll bet a lot of folks would pick the track recorded through my Phoenix DRS instead of Pendulum MDP-1 if they were asked to choose which was a tube preamp. I think Greg Gualtieri designs amazing sounding tube gear. I would say that cheap tube gear (not "well designed", as you say) gives a bad name to tube gear in general. Anyway, sorry to get off topic here. I'm interested in the HG-2 and appreciate the input so far. If it sounds much like a Culture Vulture, though, it's not really what I'm looking for. nah it doesn't sound like the CV.I find it more useful on mixes. Save
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Post by roundbadge on Feb 7, 2017 19:39:16 GMT -6
This box has been intriguing me for awhile now. Anyone have an opinion on when one more tube device in the chain might be one too many? Right now I'm running a 2-buss that includes a Michelangelo, Hammer2 EQ, Avalon 747 and Pendulum OCL-2. Yeah, I'm a tube slut. I'm running Shadow Hills MC - Pultecs - HG..sounds pretty good to me. Save
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Post by ludwigvanbeartrap on Feb 7, 2017 20:54:38 GMT -6
I'd be embarrassed to go public with a shabby rig like that! IIRC you've got the tube Pultecs, no? I'll bet that mix of gear sounds big and sweet. Thanks for the CV comparison info.
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Post by jdc on Feb 8, 2017 9:02:36 GMT -6
A little update: with some fiddling, I've managed to leave the plugin as a stand-in for the hardware in the drum buss. It's too early in the mix to print the drums, and I want to use the hardware on the 2-buss. There's some difference in sound, but the flexibility of not being forced to print the drums more than makes up for it. Thanks for the update! In what ways specifically, to your ears, does the plug in fall short of the hardware? Are there ways in which it exceeds the hardware? (Mostly talking about sound, everyone at this point knows plugins are more convenient etc.) If you had never heard the hardware what would you think about this plugin? Thanks!
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Post by stormymondays on Feb 8, 2017 17:14:39 GMT -6
I haven't spent enough time with the plugin to answer all your questions. My first impression wasn't that it fell short, only that it sounded different with the same settings. The hardware has a bit more depth to my ears.
I bought the hardware for almost philosophical reasons... I just wanted my mixes to go through tubes and transformers, to supplement the analog emulating plugins.
I've only done one mix through the hardware and it does some magic, for sure!
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 17, 2017 14:56:46 GMT -6
I just picked up the plug for $71. They're having a flash sale on some SPL plugs for $9 a pop. Add enough copies to your cart for a 50% discount, plus they sent out vouchers earlier this month. I had one for $35. It's a cool enough plug for 70 bucks.
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