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Post by Guitar on Mar 2, 2017 10:57:25 GMT -6
Jesse PM me your email too, I want to send you one or two tracks to put some Weight Tank on. Thanks for the offer!
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Post by drbill on Mar 2, 2017 10:59:37 GMT -6
Further Mix notes : This compressor can make bass sustain like nothing else I have. Almost too much. LOL I find myself backing off the compression and/or EQ a bit because of the huge bottom it's imparting on the track. And it will just HOLD things there. Nice.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 2, 2017 17:08:09 GMT -6
Further Mix notes : This compressor can make bass sustain like nothing else I have. Almost too much. LOL I find myself backing off the compression and/or EQ a bit because of the huge bottom it's imparting on the track. And it will just HOLD things there. Nice. I sent jcoutu1 a pristine 808 that slammmmmms as is so I'm interested to see what the weight tank can do to the sustain and punch
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 2, 2017 17:20:54 GMT -6
Further Mix notes : This compressor can make bass sustain like nothing else I have. Almost too much. LOL I find myself backing off the compression and/or EQ a bit because of the huge bottom it's imparting on the track. And it will just HOLD things there. Nice. I sent jcoutu1 a pristine 808 that slammmmmms as is so I'm interested to see what the weight tank can do to the sustain and punch Hey Chase and Guitar. I ran some stuff through this afternoon, but didn't get a chance to send them off before my gig. Didn't get very in depth with the settings. Ran a round and drive version of each file. Big gain reduction.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 2, 2017 18:09:01 GMT -6
Very cool! I'm interested to see what's going to happen. I certainly don't own anything that could do the same thing here.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 9, 2017 12:15:45 GMT -6
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0Bym1m85ha75RRzJBT0FYdWdaamMLink with orig files plus weight tank files 👆 Ok fellow RGO members I got some tasty files with 15 Db of gain reduction yes you heard that correct 15 Db of gain reduction. So we have the Weight Tank with both round and drive modes on an 808 bass as well as LD Vox. Let me tell you I am impressed. The vocal chain was thiersch blue line m7 schoeps single ended fet based transformed coupled mic into stock Apollo preamps gain set to 30 and HPF 80hz engaged on Apollo. Drive Vox: fastest attack and release knockin off 15 Db ( +15db of GR ) Round Vox: medium fast Attack, medium fast release smacking 15 Db off the tops 😫😀 and it sounds excellent so yes I would blend the drive Vox under the Round Vox if I were to dump these into this mix ( and believe me this is straight weight tank compression and blue line m7 and me!) 808 drive : this baby got spanked fastest attack and fastest release jcoutu1 how much GR? This file was already hot ( -3dbfs peaking ) so I live the saturation this added. The harmonics come out I will post the orig 808 just not at studio right now.. 808 round : medium fast attack and similar release. This is more of what is sounds like however I feel the attack or click part was enhanced by the weight tank super dope 808.... Ok so what do I think ::: I want a pair and this isn't even scratching the surface of what these babies can do, I mean real deal distortion, grit, saturation, harmonics comin to life. The drive Vox is something I always try for ITB however it never sounds like that. And again that a naked recording and the weight tank 80 hz HPF -12db oct
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Post by winetree on Mar 9, 2017 12:20:17 GMT -6
Too bad I need a Google Account to listen to the files.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 9, 2017 12:24:06 GMT -6
Too bad I need a Google Account to listen to the files. What do you mean I clicked the link from RGO not logged in... how else should I post them? I can send you a wetransfer if you like Ok I see what you mean it's not my google drive.. I tried posting a couple more links don't know if they will work tho. I apologize for the issues
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 9, 2017 12:27:50 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 9, 2017 12:51:18 GMT -6
This is the correct link. This should allow you to play the tracks in your browser or download them and you don't need a Google account for accessing, they're just hosted by Google.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 9, 2017 13:04:02 GMT -6
jcoutu1 I can play and DL all of them was trying to have everybody have access 😀
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 9, 2017 13:13:35 GMT -6
jcoutu1 I can play and DL all of them was trying to have everybody have access 😀 Yeah, this link gives global access, not just to you. Anyone should be able to use it.
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Post by drbill on Mar 10, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6
The one thing that strikes me every time I use the WT's is the grip and hold aspect. They can make an electric bass sound like a synth bass with sustain all the way up. It just HOLDS and sustains almost forever. Very cool. I almost always I end up backing off the compression more than I thought I would use on electric bass. Combining it with an LC25 is allowing for some really magical stuff on the HF of the bass without thinning things out. On stuff like thin, plinky, no sustain single note acoustic steel string melodies, the WT is magic. Adds body, girth, sustain, a touch of grit and a nice HF lift. These are staying for a long, long time.
For those who want MORE grit, I know Eric is working on a simple mod that can easily be accomplished in a few minutes.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2017 22:55:38 GMT -6
I really need to get a chance to listen. And send something to you.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2017 22:56:15 GMT -6
How transparent is the gain reduction?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 10, 2017 23:54:39 GMT -6
It definitely thickens things. I'm running significant gain reduction though, and it sounds boss.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 16, 2017 12:53:22 GMT -6
I've spent some more time with the Weight Tank and spoken with Eric via email a bit. He's come up with a mod for the unit to make the Drive switch slightly more aggressive. We're still not talking distortion pedal type drive, just a bit more harmonic content/bite. Since releasing the units, they now come standard featuring this mod, which is now incorporated into the design. He sent me the parts with some instructions and I just finished modding and testing 1 unit. Here's ChaseUTB's vocal, now through the modded drive section. drive.google.com/open?id=0Bym1m85ha75RRkx3ZzNQcE9BUnchttp://instagram.com/p/BRtYO1MBe2a
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 16, 2017 13:07:29 GMT -6
How transparent is the gain reduction? If you listen to my raw Vox and the round file he is knocking off 15 Db and to me it " sounds " great... I would have said maybe 10 Db max at the loudest, so in my opinion, yes this is pretty transparent for the amount of GR these units are pulling on the Vox... jcoutu1 Thanks bro, I can't wait to get back to the studio and A/B between the mod and standard files! I really am diggin the way the weight tank round holds the vocal in place and locks in the center image. Great grab and control. The Vox is one take no comps, me rapping straight through. Yes I control my dynamics pretty well, but the WT just locked it in place it seems, plus added some sheen on top is phenomenal. The WT also helped the nuanced grit/ bite of my vocal character ( which the blue line capsule captures great nuances and qualities) and my vocal chords come thru and be more present after compression.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2017 13:21:11 GMT -6
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Post by drbill on Mar 16, 2017 13:30:05 GMT -6
The WT can certainly lock things in place. No doubt. But I would never call it "transparent". LOL Especially in drive mode. Eric sent me the mods as well. I have yet to do them, and honestly, I don't know if I ever will. As much as I thought I would use "drive", I'm using that far less than "round". I have to wait until I have more experience on a wider variety of projects. If there was a 3 way switch (I suggested it to Eric), then I'd definitely like the option - but as of today I'm not sure I want to lose the current "drive" model for a dirtier one.....
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 16, 2017 13:33:11 GMT -6
Yeah, I hardly ever want to gross something out with the comp...maybe a bass...or slamming a drum bus for parallel...
As far as transparent, I meant the "slew" of the compression. Is it natural? I guess that has to do with attack and release too, but I just like a natural, linear slew rate. i.e. does it sound like a transient falls off a cliff when it compresses.
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Post by drbill on Mar 16, 2017 13:33:28 GMT -6
Johns take thru the Sta sounded more "hi fi" to me. Somehow I don't think that's what jcoutu1 was going for. LOL
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 16, 2017 13:33:37 GMT -6
Haha wow that Sta is smacking that vocal's face with a baby powdered pimp hand... 🗣👋 😂 Wow talk about gain reduction you can hear that Sta locking the vocal down and not letting go... Wow the Vox still sound good albeit more squashed than the WT in round mode, but a lot cleaner blanket type compression than the drive mode on the WT... I would love to have a Sta as a parallel Comp smashing the piss out of things cause man that sounds great for 15 Db... Thanks Johnkenn and ya there is a few F and mother F words in there.... This is average flow for me I usually rap faster so IMO Vox files like these are great to see what the HW comps do vs the SW.. Not starting anything here guys but to do 15 Db of GR with SW I would need UAD 1176 Rev E ( -3 to -4 Db GR ) + 1176 AE ( -3 to -4Db GR)+ UAD LA3A ( -2 Db GR) + TT CL1B (-2 to -3db GR) to do a good nice sounding, tonally shaped, compressed vocal, and it still wouldn't sound like these two HW comps that soon...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 16, 2017 13:37:48 GMT -6
Yeah, I hardly ever want to gross something out with the comp...maybe a bass...or slamming a drum bus for parallel... As far as transparent, I meant the "slew" of the compression. Is it natural? I guess that has to do with attack and release too, but I just like a natural, linear slew rate. i.e. does it sound like a transient falls off a cliff when it compresses. Ya the round file of the WT sounds amazing to me and the drive part I would use as parallel. The Sta has a sheen like Dr Bill described .. More hi fi.. I guess I hear the round WT with medium fast doing -15db GR as transparent considering a SW comp doing the same will sound like a steaming pile of 💩
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Post by drbill on Mar 16, 2017 13:39:21 GMT -6
Yeah, I hardly ever want to gross something out with the comp...maybe a bass...or slamming a drum bus for parallel... As far as transparent, I meant the "slew" of the compression. Is it natural? I guess that has to do with attack and release too, but I just like a natural, linear slew rate. i.e. does it sound like a transient falls off a cliff when it compresses. So far I've had one on bass constantly, then thru a LC25. 20 mixes, all working well. Sweet, ultimate sustain, nice semi dirty sound. More like a tube amp type of sustain without trying to get gnarly with saturated distortion. Works killer for that. The second has been skating around on various sources. Some acoustics, fiddle, etc.. I'm going cleaner on those generally, with less compression. It's working well. I still wouldn't call it transparent. But I would say it's capable of a lot of GR without killing and flattening out a sound. natural? I guess that's in the ears of the listener. I wouldn't call almost any compression natural. (661 being the exception) It's a biggerizer, sizerizer, weighterizer. I suppose that's why Eric calls em weight tanks instead of slim tanks.
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