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Post by NoFilterChuck on Aug 31, 2016 23:44:29 GMT -6
For who knows whatever reason, I stumbled on the Eventide website and ran across the H9 stompbox. So i picked up an H9 Max for pretty cheap on Ebay. and, maaaaaaan the tap delays and reverbs in this thing are RIDICULOUS. I use it as a send in Logic and it sounds sooo much better than the Logic Delays or reverbs that I have. I don't know what it is about outboard hardware, but it always ends up sounding amazing at the 1 or 2 things it's reaally good at. In this case, this pedal can load all of the algorithms from all of Eventide's other stomp boxes. If you can scoop an H9 MAX up on ebay or wherever, do it.
Here's a dude that sounds like Jack Black testing out some presets:
Seriously, this thing is AWESOME as an outboard studio FX box.
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Post by wiz on Sept 1, 2016 0:31:25 GMT -6
I had a quick look.. how much did you pay?
All the ones I see, aint what I would describe as cheap 8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Sept 1, 2016 0:51:21 GMT -6
I paid 565 for a Max and 265 for a Core. Compared to some other Reverb/Delay/Modulator/Pitch outboard effect units for the studio, the amount of power and the sound in these two pedals is cheap. Compare it to a lexicon PCM96, for example. Since both of mine are linked under one account, they both have access to all of the algorithms too.
I'm just now learning how many producers use guitar pedals as their secret weapon for sounds in the studio, not just for guitar. These things are awesome! It's just great not having to work to find a tap delay sound.
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 1, 2016 2:43:53 GMT -6
I think Popmann and I both have the TC Electronic M1. I like the reverbs and I like having the huge array of presets for singers when they get bored or I have to do something like make an edit cause the band played a part 4 bars too short or something stupid. Gives them something to do.
Ive never printed the output and I dont know why.
I often use my RNC when doing vox, bass or ac gtr overdubs. Great little thing for adding a little more sheen from the get go.
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Post by subspace on Sept 1, 2016 5:54:03 GMT -6
I picked up a Korg SDD-3000 Pedal for both guitar and mixing use. It switches from pedal to line level and is great as an easily manipulated tap delay line with modulation/pitch options.
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Post by rocinante on Sept 1, 2016 7:12:23 GMT -6
+1 for the TC Electronic M1. Best suggestion regarding gear (Svart) I've read in a good while. Ive printed with it. I had it on top of valahala on some guitar solos that I kept. Ive also used it on accordion with excellent repeatable results.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 3, 2016 19:41:20 GMT -6
I can also recommend the TC Electronic D-Two delay, it's pretty dang good, especially if you buy it for second hand prices.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 3, 2016 19:54:45 GMT -6
TC M-ONE XL here also. It hasn't been used for ages but I just installed it in the new racking so I figure it's probably time to give it a spin!
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Post by strangeways on Sept 4, 2016 5:44:54 GMT -6
Behringer V-verb. If you disregard the Behringer logo and get a good unit that doesn't crap out within a year, its an amazing and tweakable unit. Used they are sub $200. Got both of mine for $100.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 4, 2016 6:06:52 GMT -6
TC M-ONE XL here also. It hasn't been used for ages but I just installed it in the new racking so I figure it's probably time to give it a spin! If you do a lot with guitars the modulation department in the old Mididverbs II and III are killer. Some of the reverbs are great too, but noisy as hell... I got both on e-bay for about 40$ Another great one for reverb is the Yamaha Reverb 500 I got two for about 75$ The 500 is a killer up front LV Verb, or for solo guitar 80s stile sustain solos, long tail and wide as hell. I was after the M One XL but the used prices are too high in the EU.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 4, 2016 6:36:47 GMT -6
TC M-ONE XL here also. It hasn't been used for ages but I just installed it in the new racking so I figure it's probably time to give it a spin! If you do a lot with guitars the modulation department in the old Mididverbs II and III are killer. Some of the reverbs are great too, but noisy as hell... I got both on e-bay for about 40$ Another great one for reverb is the Yamaha Reverb 500 I got two for about 75$ The 500 is a killer up front LV Verb, or for solo guitar 80s stile sustain solos, long tail and wide as hell. I was after the M One XL but the used prices are too high in the EU. Believe or not I still have a Midiverb II I bought brand new back in the 1980's! It was about the equivalent in cost back then as a Bricasti is today! From memory Reverb patches 15 and 7 were great on drums and I think 4 was kind of a dark ambience. Maybe I should dig the Midiverb II out as well and stick it with the M-ONE XL. I'm just a bit worried the Midiverb may feel a bit insecure sitting beside the 480L.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 4, 2016 6:43:54 GMT -6
Tommy Emannuel still uses a Midiverb II on stage.. at least he did up until a few years ago. Although his engineer uses a TC for FOH.
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Post by rocinante on Sept 4, 2016 8:29:41 GMT -6
TC M-ONE XL here also. It hasn't been used for ages but I just installed it in the new racking so I figure it's probably time to give it a spin! If you do a lot with guitars the modulation department in the old Mididverbs II and III are killer. Some of the reverbs are great too, but noisy as hell... I got both on e-bay for about 40$ Another great one for reverb is the Yamaha Reverb 500 I got two for about 75$ The 500 is a killer up front LV Verb, or for solo guitar 80s stile sustain solos, long tail and wide as hell. I was after the M One XL but the used prices are too high in the EU. Wow I have everyone of the aforementioned units and they really do each have their ownexcellent uses. I use the 500 for guitars as well and its super lush.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 4, 2016 8:41:07 GMT -6
I have this super cheap thing from Yamaha an EMP-700 in my rack, that I have used a few times. It's similar to the SPX-90 and 990, but lesser known, and even cheaper. It's got some cool and weird pitch stuff in it.
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Post by popmann on Sept 4, 2016 10:32:53 GMT -6
While I've never owned a TC....outboard FX are usually better, IMO/E. There's a bizarre false equation that "all digital is digital is digital.....thus newer=better"....but, truth is, we've taken a lot of steps backwards in the digital world--and if you've grown up using software, you're not aware of that. From the 56 and 48bit fixed mix summing or past hardware to reverbs that aren't simply an echoy repetition of the sound "as effect"....
Sometimes I wonder how many people, when they're comparing an analog mix and a software mix, part of what they're hearing is the reverbs being hardware on the analog mix.
I even had an Alesis Quadraverb2 for a very specific reason--I found that it was easier to craft and save Egtr multieffect "stacks" there that seemed to universally "work"--where every time I'd make one with software and save it, it never worked again. Like--it was fine on the tune I sculpted it for....but, that stack never worked on the next song.
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Post by EmRR on Sept 4, 2016 10:37:02 GMT -6
Someone should get excited about my Quadraverb2 in the classifieds...... : ) Or my Space Echo.....
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Post by wiz on Sept 4, 2016 14:07:11 GMT -6
Someone should get excited about my Quadraverb2 in the classifieds...... : ) Or my Space Echo..... You can keep the quadraverb 2, I never got on with it.. 8) I would love the 201 though... shipping to Oz though.. would be cheaper to fly over and pick it up just about 8) cheers Wiz
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Post by EmRR on Sept 4, 2016 14:39:27 GMT -6
Shipping an RE-201 to Oz is probably under $150US. Shipping a half lb of anything insured to Oz doesn't come in under $50US anymore.
The Q2 does all sorts of neat things via ADAT optical, but since I'm rarely working in 44.1 or 48 it doesn't see action here.
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 4, 2016 16:05:15 GMT -6
If you do a lot with guitars the modulation department in the old Mididverbs II and III are killer. Some of the reverbs are great too, but noisy as hell... I got both on e-bay for about 40$ Another great one for reverb is the Yamaha Reverb 500 I got two for about 75$ The 500 is a killer up front LV Verb, or for solo guitar 80s stile sustain solos, long tail and wide as hell. I was after the M One XL but the used prices are too high in the EU. Believe or not I still have a Midiverb II I bought brand new back in the 1980's! It was about the equivalent in cost back then as a Bricasti is today! From memory Reverb patches 15 and 7 were great on drums and I think 4 was kind of a dark ambience. Maybe I should dig the Midiverb II out as well and stick it with the M-ONE XL. I'm just a bit worried the Midiverb may feel a bit insecure sitting beside the 480L. I think some of the verbs are lame but great for snares because they cut the mix. Its fun to use tools which are outdated, cheap old low end gear. In the past I thought its about the gear. Today I think its about what I make out of it. As long as it sounds good I don't see problem to tell the client that you use a Midiverb II as well. Why sounding like all the others...?? If I listen to band camp. Its about the right time to take out the old 80s fxs. Massive modulation and verbs are coming back.
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Post by jdc on Sept 4, 2016 17:37:44 GMT -6
As far as guitar pedals doubling as studio effects goes, it's hard to beat the Strymon stuff. I have three of their pedals on my board (flint, deco, and el capistan) and they sound incredible. The deco is also able to accept line level signal to be used as a piece of studio gear by easily swapping a jumper inside.
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Post by donr on Sept 4, 2016 19:25:32 GMT -6
Tommy Emannuel still uses a Midiverb II on stage.. at least he did up until a few years ago. Although his engineer uses a TC for FOH. I still use an Alesis Quadraverb in my stage rig for delays and mod effects. It sounds thick and full in a way that TC effects don't, even as TC set the standard for "hi-fi." Sometimes you want thick and lush and stays out of the way of direct.
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Post by drsax on Sept 4, 2016 21:32:20 GMT -6
Agreed NoFilterChuck - The Eventide H9 is amazing. Setting up my pedal board with two this week (H9 Max & H9 Core) and they will double as outboard effects when I mix as well. Maybe the biggest bang for the buck that I've seen in years - not to mention the cool factor with the iOS Bluetooth control. It doesn't just sound good for something that is cheap. It's really high quality sounding period.
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Post by jazznoise on Sept 5, 2016 3:28:16 GMT -6
Ah, it was Svart not Popmann! Sorry for the confusion. Speaking of guitar pedals, the Watkins Copycat is a great vocal delay. We have an old one here, the tape is beat to shit but it's perfect for some things. I also have my Deluxe Memory Boy - the really nice thing being the feedback loop. You can stick a wah, EQ, pitch shifter or chorus/flange in there and get the repeats to go crazy and distort. Plug a harmonica mic into it and get your singer/violin player/trumpet player to play in and you'll get some crazy sounds going. I really can't recommend the whole harmonica mic thing more, check out this Violin in a big room playing into a Deluxe Memory Boy into my Vox AD50VT, just a 57 on the cab: www.dropbox.com/s/u5jbb2i4m20e65w/Violin%20Amp.mp3?dl=0
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Post by ericn on Sept 5, 2016 10:36:42 GMT -6
The Yamaha Pro3r was their last and best alogrithm based reverb box, there's one on GS for $275 that's a bargain.
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Post by ericn on Sept 5, 2016 10:36:53 GMT -6
The Yamaha Pro3r was their last and best alogrithm based reverb box, there's one on GS for $275 that's a bargain.
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