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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2016 7:53:54 GMT -6
I'm looking for bass control, limiting and "audio analysis". In other words, I want a visual representation of why my mixes are lame, and deeper control so I can mangle them even more. Nugen has something called the "Monofilter" for low-end management, and it looks interesting.
Ozone seems to be the 800lb gorilla in this class of plugins - so much so, that I almost feel like I'm having a "me too" moment when considering buying it. It certainly has some nice features though.
My friends, what are you using, and why?
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Post by joseph on Jun 21, 2016 9:16:15 GMT -6
DMG limitless is a really really great limiter, with loudness metrics and flexible parameters.
Flux stereo tool is free.
For monoizing low end, TDR Slick eq mastering can do that, and it's pretty affordable. Great parallel eq, for gentle shaping and bus work.
Izotope Insight, DMG Dualism are pretty full featured stereo analysis tools.
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Post by tasteliketape on Jun 21, 2016 10:00:12 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 22, 2016 22:17:17 GMT -6
Blue cat Audio has a free analyzer you can download from their site! I use ozone and it's great for having access to multiple tools in one, however the exorbitant fee to break the modules out is ridiculous. Idk, maybe this has changed with newer versions but ozone 5 adv was almost $1000 with insight where as regular ozone 5 I got for around $200. The prices have changed, and now it's on ozone 7, with new irc4 limiter/ Maximizer. I enjoy using 5 but since upgrading to pt12.4, I cannot use it and cannot seem to find the 64 bit version, maybe I haven't looked hard enough.
I also use Pro-L, and find it great with plenty of modes and ways to tailor your limiting. The auto gain limiting feature is nice as well, overall I find Pro-L can make things lifeless if pushed, where as other limiters keep going. I love L1, not Maximizer but good old L1 and the brainworx XL v2 Limiter is awesome as well, without altering the perception or balance when that is wanted, also can get things loud.
All in one plugs are IMO seldom better than the individual plugs doing individual tasks! Also, there is new AOM invisible limiter v2, DMG Limitless which has gotten amazing reviews from mastering engineers, and IK multimedia Stealth Limiter is also fairly new and popular. So many choices, demo some and use in your workflow, you may find you need more than one!
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Post by popmann on Jun 23, 2016 21:07:31 GMT -6
I tried Monofilter a while back when I was knee deep in vinyl master comparisons to CD....anyway....it's effectively just a fancier elliptical filter like they used in cutting lathes to remove low frequencies from the difference/side component. THere are some "digital" options like some sort of phase manipulation of the low frequencies....but....not really what you're looking for to reshape a mix.
....which is probably not a sound idea. Punny. Have you posted any of your work here? Post a fader up like I just did....and then your actual "mix" of it. given those two, we can assess what the issue is.....are you tracking OK but overprocessing the mix....or tracking weirdness and expecting you can "remedy" that in the mix process. You're not going to find a visual representation of why it's not what you had hoped.
Do cover recordings in your genre. I say cover recordings (not songs) because you want to try to duplicate the recording as close as you can. Outside of the vocal, you should get pretty close or you have a different problem--if you can't hear and replicate....how are you supposed to "hear" from your inner ear and manifest that into reality?
If you want to learn, you can....but, you're not going to find visuals useful in audio production. certainly not for anything panned back and complex as a whole mix of X number of tracks and FX.
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