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Post by matt on Jun 14, 2016 10:15:26 GMT -6
I'm going through a bit of a gear crisis. Is it JK syndrome? Maybe, maybe not, only time will tell. Anyway, I am not using my 500 series A-Designs EM-PEQs lately, they just don't do it for me anymore. Just switching them in thins the mix a bit, with all controls set to minimum position, and that's a violation for me. I want to move to a stereo parametric. Choices include all the majors plus esoteric brands too. API, Neve, SSL, Chandler (mmm Curvebender), etc - all sexxxy.
My real inner debate is: just how badly do I want to be able to turn knobs? I mean, how often do you really change the EQ curve of the stereo mix? I'm having trouble justifying the cost. Plugs are MUCH cheaper, and can be automated. But . . .
My friends, your opinions, please!
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Post by dandeurloo on Jun 14, 2016 10:22:08 GMT -6
The Great River Eq does great. Sometimes just for the HPF and other times when I need a little more it has all the tone and flexibility needed. The bottom end on it roars! BTW, I usually use my Pultecs in the mix not on the mix. www.greweb.com/eq-2nv.html
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Post by matt on Jun 14, 2016 10:27:42 GMT -6
The Great River Eq does great. I usually use my Pultecs in the mix not on the mix. Yes, considering both. I'm gonna try the EMs on drum overheads or something. Love the GR stuff, too. I hate not using gear, it seems like a waste of $$$$. Which it is.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 14, 2016 10:29:07 GMT -6
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Post by swurveman on Jun 14, 2016 10:36:37 GMT -6
I use a GML 8200. I mix with the 80 Hz filter boosted and 10K filter boosted. If after the mix is done I still feel the need to tweak in the lower mids or mids I do.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jun 14, 2016 10:37:15 GMT -6
Neumann W495b. There is another model that is similar called the PEQ, I think the Q is slightly different. They also made stereo versions.
Originally designed for mastering consoles.
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Post by Randge on Jun 14, 2016 10:47:55 GMT -6
RTZ PEQ 1549's. Matchable as they are stepped with a super sweet top and clean very dialable mids. Bottom is tight and does what it should.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 14, 2016 10:48:18 GMT -6
OK - I'll be the plugin guy...
Try the MusEQ Master plug with M/S on a mix. Just demo it. Tell me it's not badass.
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Post by Randge on Jun 14, 2016 10:49:22 GMT -6
I have used my Elysia X-filter on some acoustic music and it worked well, too. Most of the time I have very little on my 2 buss though. I get it before that stage and let my mastering guy do his thing.
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Post by 79sg on Jun 14, 2016 11:00:54 GMT -6
I'll have to agree with JK on the MuseEQ master plug and would add the new TDR SlickEQ Mastering as it is quite good as far as plugins go. You can have M, S, L and R all in the same plugin instance, really cool and useful. I'm not sure there's another eq plugin that can do that.
Next on my eq purchase list is the Tube-Tech HLT2A or HLT2AM.
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Post by Randge on Jun 14, 2016 11:17:59 GMT -6
I have found myself using the Elysia Museq lately, too. I realize that its on the mix I am working on now and thought I should mention it.
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Post by drbill on Jun 14, 2016 11:28:49 GMT -6
LOL, but THAT is the opposite of what I want as a 2Bus EQ when mixing. I want simplicity, ease of recall, gentle tone control, absolute killer "vibe", a sense of "alive-ness" and LIMITED - but useful - options. Sweetening, not carving. Gentle not Aggressive. Simple not complex. The Silver Bullet EQ is KILLING it for me right now. Super sweet, vibey, and quickly recallable. The Vintage (Neve) filter is knocking it out of the park combined with the "Air" boost. The "Tight" filter is perfect and opening up headroom so I can drive to my hearts content. Of course I'm biased. I admit it. But I mix at least a couple hundred tracks a year, and I wouldn't let McGowan stop until we had something special and unique. OK, I admit it, Brad was the instigator and driving force in this EQ although several others (not to mention Brad himself who is an qualified EQ genius) had input as well. But I NEEDED it, and it's got my dam name on it!! LOL I need fast, recallable and great. Mastering engineers have been raving about the EQ in the SB - calling the HF better than their high end, high cost Bax EQ's. The HF is unattainable anywhere else in my experience and worth the cost of admission on it's own. This would be a KILLER EQ for LTL to release on it's own, but Brad is going to keep it attached to the SB which I think is a good thing. It's an all around package for mixing!!! Before that I was using the original Eisen LilPeQr's with Marinairs. Really great, but not as dialed as the SB's for me. I've relegated those to vocal duties now.
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Post by jin167 on Jun 14, 2016 11:38:07 GMT -6
If you wish to sweeten your mix (adding a touch of low and top ends) + pseudo limiting + a bit of saturation to bring out an edge try the overstayer MAS. It's been on my main buss ever since I purchased it and all I can say is that it is stunning. BTW, I'm not a fan of an eq on 2 buss and I usually leave it to the mastering engineer.
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Post by sean on Jun 14, 2016 11:38:53 GMT -6
When I mix in the box most of the time I get close, and pop on the UAD Ampex ATR-102 and sift through the ultralinear mastering presets until I hear one that does something I like. Sometimes it doesn't do anything I like, and I take it off.
I like to have the Pro Q-2 on the master and when I'm feeling close to done I do a little sweeping around and use the listening feature because it's a good way for me to find what there's too much off, or what's missing, and allows me to hear what the instrument is in that range. A lot of times it's tubiness in a bass or guitar, and a lack of sparkle certain instruments. I think that works better than brightening or thinning out everything on the mix buss.
The E27 has worked nicely as a mix buss EQ, I like the high frequency shelf. Same was the EQ2/EQ4. Occasionally I'll knock out a little around 300Hz. A little does a long way with the E27. Like, barely a nudge.
And sometimes it's nothing. I'm not a big fan of mix buss compression. Everything I've used in plug-in world seems to collapse the width. The ATR-102 just works better for that "glue" thing for me.
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Post by pope on Jun 14, 2016 12:01:38 GMT -6
MIAD EQs here. Kind of secret weapon for me. Well, not anymore I guess
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 14, 2016 12:44:26 GMT -6
I start with the Master preset in MusEQ and then adjust...but it's already setup M/S and really adds some width.
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Post by warrenfirehouse on Jun 14, 2016 12:49:32 GMT -6
Crane Song Insignas
Bought these because I wanted something different from the usual suspects and I really dig them. They live on my 2bus. 1.6k is like crack and the LPF is super useful on itb mixes.
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Post by joseph on Jun 14, 2016 15:13:41 GMT -6
TDR mastering is great, as is DMG equilibrium with Sontec curves.
Most of my hardware eqs are too colored for 2bus, and I get better results treating tracks separately, but I'll use the GSSL, slowest attack, auto release.
Buzz eq with new low end card, Sontec, Curve Bender, Knif Soma are things to drool over!
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Post by EmRR on Jun 14, 2016 15:16:34 GMT -6
None. Sorry! Really only when I'm handed a mix that needs some repair or mastering, never during mix process. Then it's usually a hybrid of DAW and whatever flavor 'broad stroke' outboard helps most.
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Post by nomatic on Jun 14, 2016 15:17:55 GMT -6
The Hendyamps Michelangelo on the 2 buss is my holy grail..........
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Post by hasbeen on Jun 14, 2016 15:24:14 GMT -6
I am still using the original Eisen LilPeQr's with Mariners.
Gotta try that Silver Bullet someday.
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Post by stratboy on Jun 14, 2016 15:41:46 GMT -6
Hardware: elysia xfilter Software: brainworx bx_digital set to m/s With a very light touch of course
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Post by sozocaps on Jun 14, 2016 18:00:38 GMT -6
GR EQ-2NV
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 18:04:46 GMT -6
I am not really a fan of the 2bus EQ but when i have used them the best to me in different situations / time periods have been the API 5500, VAC RAC 4000 Eq's & an old ITI 230.. They all added someting really special and tight to the bottom end which can be cool for some songs..
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Post by sozocaps on Jun 14, 2016 18:13:22 GMT -6
I am not really a fan of the 2bus EQ but when i have used them the best to me in different situations / time periods have been the API 5500, VAC RAC 4000 Eq's & an old ITI 230.. They all added someting really special and tight to the bottom end which can be cool for some songs.. I agree no 2 bus eq until mastering is what I was referring to. (Yes I have with no detented eq) LOL
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