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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 18:31:50 GMT -6
Somehow like this, you might get the idea...  EDIT: Just saw you posted already about it while i was googleing the picture.... |
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Post by kilroyrock on Aug 15, 2016 6:35:24 GMT -6
Somehow like this, you might get the idea... EDIT: Just saw you posted already about it while i was googleing the picture.... This is what I did. I was able to take out one of the sockets. We are free and clear now!  |
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Post by jdc on Aug 15, 2016 8:04:01 GMT -6
Nice! How does it sound?
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Post by kilroyrock on Aug 15, 2016 10:58:18 GMT -6
Haven't gotten a chance to record anything out, probably won't get to until Wednesday.
I did however, Saturday, fix my vu meter, create a 600 ohm impedence xlr adapter for my sm57 and refit the pip chip in a respectable manner! I guess i'll go update those threads now!
I'm planning on setting my microbute into a sequence and playing it back with both chips, that way I can guarantee the exact same performance. It's not perfect, but I am expecting a bit of a difference between the two. I guess we'll see! I'll post when done.
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Post by scumbum on Jan 27, 2017 1:09:24 GMT -6
Haven't gotten a chance to record anything out, probably won't get to until Wednesday.
I did however, Saturday, fix my vu meter, create a 600 ohm impedence xlr adapter for my sm57 and refit the pip chip in a respectable manner! I guess i'll go update those threads now!
I'm planning on setting my microbute into a sequence and playing it back with both chips, that way I can guarantee the exact same performance. It's not perfect, but I am expecting a bit of a difference between the two. I guess we'll see! I'll post when done.
So how does it sound ? |
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Post by kilroyrock on Jan 27, 2017 5:41:31 GMT -6
Clear! There is never a hint of noise on that channel. When other pres may put "character" on a signal, this imparts nothing. That's the point though!
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Post by scumbum on Jan 27, 2017 10:31:25 GMT -6
I'm a newbie when it comes to this stuff . Did you stack 5 sockets on top of each other to fit the PIP chip in that spot ? Is that the best way to do it ??
I might tackle this project . Is the mic pre super high end clean sounding ? Better than say clean mic pres in a typical modern console like a Mackie Onyx , steinberg d-pre , Soundcraft .
I've read the Midas XL4 is Super nice and I believe a clean pre as well .
Would the CP5 with the Jim Williams PIP chip beat those mic pres in a shoot out ?
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Post by scumbum on Jan 27, 2017 10:36:28 GMT -6
Another question if anyone knows ,
Are the super clean pres good about vocal sibilance ? Some mic pres are more sibilant than others . I would imagine a super clean mic pre like the CP5 with PIP would not add any extra vocal sibilance , it would only capture what is there . Correct ? I'm on a quest to eliminate as much sibilance as possible , I hate dealing with it at mix time .
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Post by jimwilliams on Jan 27, 2017 10:44:13 GMT -6
Very clean mic preamps have always prevented unnatural or excessive spit. That's why I've never had the need for a de-esser here.
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Post by ericn on Jan 27, 2017 11:21:57 GMT -6
Very clean mic preamps have always prevented unnatural or excessive spit. That's why I've never had the need for a de-esser here. Of course it also helps to have singers who can well, sing! |
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Post by scumbum on Jan 28, 2017 16:38:38 GMT -6
Very clean mic preamps have always prevented unnatural or excessive spit. That's why I've never had the need for a de-esser here. what mics do you use with your clean pres that help avoid sibilance ? Any dynamic mics ? |
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Post by popmann on Jan 28, 2017 17:33:04 GMT -6
Any mic that doesn't suck and a compressor with fully adjustable time constants and an engineer who knows how they work?
Just a guess.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 28, 2017 21:54:39 GMT -6
Slower release times
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Post by popmann on Jan 28, 2017 23:13:36 GMT -6
Well, on both sides. The release times effect the word ending silibanCCCe. The attack time effects the SSSilibance. But, you can also read anywhere how you should use lots of compression "stages"....THEY ALL have a time constant---other than look heads, none instantaneous.....so, two rounds of compression will make the SSSibilanCCCe more and more because neither round touch those, right? So if the first one quickly reduces the vowel by 5db......and the second is a leveling VCA set to reduce it 10db....with ANY mic, and those constants set incorrectly really on either, your esses are 15db out of balance. It's not about "the amount of high end" in a mic or a production--boosting the highs just makes it more painfully clear to everyone HOW unbalanced they are....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 5:58:45 GMT -6
Very clean mic preamps have always prevented unnatural or excessive spit. That's why I've never had the need for a de-esser here. what mics do you use with your clean pres that help avoid sibilance ? Any dynamic mics ? Not sure if this is relevant as you've specifically asked about dynamic mics. I had a nightmare with the NT1a I had. Got rid of it, and tried a CAD D 82 ribbon (Illacov had mentioned these). Really inexpensive, but really smooth. No chinese zing as Jonkenn calls it. It also takes eq really well - no harshness on top end lift. The 'plosives need careful control, but at last no sibilance! |
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Post by kilroyrock on Feb 1, 2017 22:03:27 GMT -6
I stacked em like Jim said to do. It's a that 1512 chip design I believe. A very clean modern transparent circuit. Jim turns it into a -132db ein capable device. Not sure I understand it all but it's clean without sounding shitty. I dig that.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 2, 2017 16:43:25 GMT -6
Excellent stuff. I'm intrigued! This is the kind of DIY that I really love.
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