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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 9, 2016 4:56:11 GMT -6
Slamthecrank a regular poster at ua forum posted this:
"Fender Tweed D'luxe
Had a recording session over the past weekend where I used my own Victoria 20112 amp (essentially a tweed deluxe), then had to do an overdub late this afternoon without access to my Victoria. So, I used the new UAD amp... see if you can guess where the punch in/out is.
soundcloud.com/user-629804947/rattlesnake-blues
For reference, the Victoria amp is mic'd using a Sennheiser md409 and a brand new BeyerD M160. On the UAD plugin, I used the closest I could find to the sound. The track was then bussed to both an EMT140 and Oceanway Studios B.
The acoustic is a Martin D18, mic'd with an AKG414 and a Neumann 102 (the tiny little bugger with a big heart). " |
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Post by mrholmes on Jun 9, 2016 7:02:03 GMT -6
Slamthecrank a regular poster at ua forum posted this:
"Fender Tweed D'luxe
Had a recording session over the past weekend where I used my own Victoria 20112 amp (essentially a tweed deluxe), then had to do an overdub late this afternoon without access to my Victoria. So, I used the new UAD amp... see if you can guess where the punch in/out is.
soundcloud.com/user-629804947/rattlesnake-blues
For reference, the Victoria amp is mic'd using a Sennheiser md409 and a brand new BeyerD M160. On the UAD plugin, I used the closest I could find to the sound. The track was then bussed to both an EMT140 and Oceanway Studios B.
The acoustic is a Martin D18, mic'd with an AKG414 and a Neumann 102 (the tiny little bugger with a big heart). " If the solos in the end where the overdubs in this case the two are very very close and you may just need to EQ in a few mids and you are done. If the Amp sims get better and better I am sold to a new UAD Apollo.... May the distortion of the solos in the beginning is more forgiving rounder sweeter smother. But that is not a lot it could be differences between amp models.... If its true in this case UA used to build a game changer. But I am getting old and I still like my amps. |
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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 9, 2016 8:53:13 GMT -6
either at 6 seconds, or at 1:19, but that guess is only because I hear a hard punch artifact in need of a crossfade friend.
That track is awesome btw. In my next life time I'm gonna learn to play slide. I hear they're running out of good session players in Nashville..
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Post by ragan on Jun 10, 2016 0:35:00 GMT -6
I hear the punch no-fades too.
It's not that hard to make a single note dirty sound be convincing with a sim, though this person certainly did a good job stitching this together.
But man, I just demo'd the UAD Deluxe. It sounds just like every other sim I've tried (mostly just UAD stuff I guess, and Scuffham and Eleven Rack and some others). Always creates the Can't Put Down the Guitar Fast Enough feeling. I just rented an actual 1955 Deluxe for this record I'm working on. The sim most certainly does not sound like it.
I mean, it sounds as much like it as any other sim I've heard, which is to say it sounds a lot like it, if it were being played back on an iPhone. Underwater. Through a piece of PVC.
It's a shame because I would totally use a great sounding sim. I just absolutely despise the way they sound. Pan a couple tracks of them wide and instead of that Electric Guitar Grin you get the Phasey Hazy Sim Cringe.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jun 10, 2016 11:39:49 GMT -6
I hear the punch no-fades too. It's not that hard to make a single note dirty sound be convincing with a sim, though this person certainly did a good job stitching this together. But man, I just demo'd the UAD Deluxe. It sounds just like every other sim I've tried (mostly just UAD stuff I guess, and Scuffham and Eleven Rack and some others). Always creates the Can't Put Down the Guitar Fast Enough feeling. I just rented an actual 1955 Deluxe for this record I'm working on. The sim most certainly does not sound like it. I mean, it sounds as much like it as any other sim I've heard, which is to say it sounds a lot like it, if it were being played back on an iPhone. Underwater. Through a piece of PVC. It's a shame because I would totally use a great sounding sim. I just absolutely despise the way they sound. Pan a couple tracks of them wide and instead of that Electric Guitar Grin you get the Phasey Hazy Sim Cringe. I have an eleven rack, and an old kidney pod that I used before that. the pod kinda makes me embarrassed at times at how crappy that sounds, but the eleven rack jcm800 sounds just like my vertical jack jcm800 2x12 combo. I don't really use the other amp sims in it, but I think they got the jcm800 one down. sometimes I take the same signal, and put it through two of their separate mics on two channels, like the ribbon and the u87 and mix those two, but I've never been disappointed. I think the biggest problem with amp sims, is you don't have this big giant amp that you hear rumbling through the floor, and your monitor speakers just can't replicate the sound of a guitar speaker, so you don't trust that it sounds right. I could be biased, but I think the eleven rack has saved many an album for me. |
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Post by ragan on Jun 10, 2016 12:16:30 GMT -6
I hear the punch no-fades too. It's not that hard to make a single note dirty sound be convincing with a sim, though this person certainly did a good job stitching this together. But man, I just demo'd the UAD Deluxe. It sounds just like every other sim I've tried (mostly just UAD stuff I guess, and Scuffham and Eleven Rack and some others). Always creates the Can't Put Down the Guitar Fast Enough feeling. I just rented an actual 1955 Deluxe for this record I'm working on. The sim most certainly does not sound like it. I mean, it sounds as much like it as any other sim I've heard, which is to say it sounds a lot like it, if it were being played back on an iPhone. Underwater. Through a piece of PVC. It's a shame because I would totally use a great sounding sim. I just absolutely despise the way they sound. Pan a couple tracks of them wide and instead of that Electric Guitar Grin you get the Phasey Hazy Sim Cringe. I have an eleven rack, and an old kidney pod that I used before that. the pod kinda makes me embarrassed at times at how crappy that sounds, but the eleven rack jcm800 sounds just like my vertical jack jcm800 2x12 combo. I don't really use the other amp sims in it, but I think they got the jcm800 one down. sometimes I take the same signal, and put it through two of their separate mics on two channels, like the ribbon and the u87 and mix those two, but I've never been disappointed. I think the biggest problem with amp sims, is you don't have this big giant amp that you hear rumbling through the floor, and your monitor speakers just can't replicate the sound of a guitar speaker, so you don't trust that it sounds right. I could be biased, but I think the eleven rack has saved many an album for me. Yeah I know a lot of guys can get convincing tone out of some sims. And I should say, I think really high gain stuff is easier for sims to do. Like if I was a metal guy? I'd be Kemper all the way. That chugga chugga shred shred just isn't a very nuanced, breathing kind of sound. Easier to do with a sim in my experience. But I do overdriven, clean, twangy, crunchy 70s type stuff. Tom Petty/Mike Campbell sonics. I can't get anywhere near that with sims. They illicit involuntary, sour facial expressions when I plug them in (and then immediately unplug). The amp rumble is a good point in general, very different playing to a bare mic'd signal. But I use and ISO cab and then re-amp from a separate building so it's not that in my case. I'm all ears though. Maybe someday someone will nail it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 14:43:09 GMT -6
Can't really tell, sounds phenomenal, great playing.
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