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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2016 9:00:10 GMT -6
OK...maybe I'm just feeling extra cynical and bitter right now...but is this not everything that is wrong with music right now? 35 year old men wearing Boy George hats...shaved armpits...fake dancing...lowest common denominator lyrics...mediocre musicianship
The ultimate in "posing." Pop is no better than Country. Ten years ago, these guys wore leather wristbands and sounded like Nickleback. Sigh...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2016 9:01:41 GMT -6
And the cockiness in the post interview. Good Lord.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on May 16, 2016 11:30:52 GMT -6
OK...maybe I'm just feeling extra cynical and bitter right now YES! Embrace your inner jazz musician! |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 16, 2016 17:32:08 GMT -6
ah who is playing the keyboard part anyway 1:17 ?
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Post by yotonic on May 16, 2016 18:42:23 GMT -6
"Brooklyn Based" the only place more fucked than Nashville by wannabes. These guys suck. And yes "Video Killed The Radio Star", with cut and paste.
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Post by yotonic on May 16, 2016 18:47:04 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2016 19:19:23 GMT -6
WHAT THE FUCK! Is that a Spotify link?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2016 19:21:34 GMT -6
I don't mind mindless pop music...as long as it's good...
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Post by yotonic on May 16, 2016 20:23:58 GMT -6
LOL. I know I have never signed in to Spotify in my life but a friend insisted I check out these two writing partners from Nashville. Interesting but, not a record I would buy. I'm burned out on pop. I'm waiting for the next Eagles.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 17, 2016 6:55:28 GMT -6
I think there's a HUGE hole in the genre for an Eagles-type band...
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Post by yotonic on May 17, 2016 16:20:26 GMT -6
Especially with a focus in today's industry on touring. The majority of acts I see filling 1000 cap plus rooms in metro markets, are "jam oriented". An Eagles type group would kill, but the trick is the high level of song writing. All great singers, and songwriters in their own right.
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Post by swurveman on May 18, 2016 7:50:38 GMT -6
I think there's a HUGE hole in the genre for an Eagles-type band... Except that the Eagles didn't write about how wonderful life is. No cross branding in that. No placements in Coke commercials, or on "The Good Wife". You know, the important thing about music-selling products. This is from the "Authors" (ironic, huh) Wiki page: "Their second single, "Best Day of My Life", was featured in, among other things, a Lowe's television advertisement in the United States, a Hyundai television advertisement in the United Kingdom, an advertisement in South Africa for Castle Lager,[10] a Telecom New Zealand advertisement,[11] a trailer for the film Delivery Man, PES 2015 video game, the opening sequence for ESPN's 2013 World Series of Poker coverage, a trailer for the film Earth to Echo, a trailer for the film How to Train Your Dragon 2, the film Humpback Whales, and a trailer for the film St. Vincent. The song is also featured in the video game "Guitar Hero Live".[12] The song was also used in an advert for Centerparcs in the UK. " This is what we live for This is what we live for This is what we live for This is what we live for This is what we live for This is what we live for |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 18, 2016 8:57:48 GMT -6
Maybe I'm the stupid one...
Anyway...it's all about selling a brand. It's just not really about the song these days (as long as it's mid-up tempo)...For instance, I don't think you and I could write that tune (and lets say it turned out exactly the same) and have the success they're having. It's a combination of being signed to a big-money label that is pursuing major sync and other opportunities. That being said - the band has worked hard to put themselves in the the position to be successful. The ability to play live (for better or worse), the willingness to be a 35 year old man wearing that hat, the touring, enduring the politics of a label (no doubt shaping their creative direction)...I guess what I'm saying is - it's about SO much more than the song.
Right now, in this industry, the tail more often than not, is wagging the dog. The labels aren't looking for "new..."; they're looking for "now." They're looking for a commodity to sell. Of course, it has always been a business...but mostly the business of music was born out of the demand for the song, not the other way around. I attribute most of this to the rise of corporate radio...Now, the people hear ONLY what corporate radio is getting paid for.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 18, 2016 9:24:14 GMT -6
Huh. Apparently I went to school with these guys and have fistfuls of mutual friends. I'm surprised that I'm unfamiliar with them (well, personally, I know these hit AA songs from the radio/Target). I imagine that we were playing the same clubs and stuff when my band was active in the Boston scene. Here's an old one...
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Post by swurveman on May 18, 2016 10:36:20 GMT -6
Maybe I'm the stupid one... Of course, it has always been a business...but mostly the business of music was born out of the demand for the song, not the other way around. I attribute most of this to the rise of corporate radio...Now, the people hear ONLY what corporate radio is getting paid for. Yeah, did you catch how they were calling this "the song of the summer". If this song is "the song of the summer", it's gonna be a shitty summer for music. Hell, it doesn't even have any allusions to summer. It's an "escape to the road" song and pales in comparison to this song, which blows it away in intelligence, vibe, dynamics and mood. Of course, as you stated by the time "Thunder Road" hit the airwaves, Springsteen had earned his audience. Nobody had to tell his audience it was a great song. |
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Post by yotonic on May 19, 2016 16:28:25 GMT -6
Kennedy is right, the labels want to spend money on the proven artists they own. Especially becuse you can just buy them their songs as is the case for most big artists today from Adele to Gavin DeGraw, to Keith Urban. If a label is going to pay $200,000 to Max Martin for a track, or fund writing sessions, they are going to do it for their own employees.
All that said, it's still REALLY hard to write a great song. I have friends that are staff writers and I personally know how freaking talented they are, and I still find myself turning up my nose at 95% of their stuff. Writing great songs is incredibly difficult for so many reasons.
That said, I'm in the concert business and my jaded, old ass, is always stunned at how much talent is constantly coming up through the ranks. And how every breaking artist seems to have a few really great songs in their bag that just seem to fit them like a suit. It's better for them to stick with music that only fits them and to build an audience around that, then to compete in the top 40 genre with 500 of the best staff writers in the country. It saddens me to see so many artists abandoning the music that is uniquely them to jump into the "pop market" because that's the only place where any money is left. It sucks...
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Post by yotonic on May 19, 2016 17:09:05 GMT -6
I would invest in this...  |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 20, 2016 8:53:55 GMT -6
Haha... donr, you see that pic? ^^ |
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Post by donr on May 20, 2016 9:19:27 GMT -6
Ha yeah. Dirks Bentley wore a BOC T in one of his videos and TV appearances.
BOC says country in 2015.
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Post by matt on May 22, 2016 12:39:10 GMT -6
I would invest in this... I want this T-shirt. And everything inside. |
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Post by matt on May 22, 2016 12:48:59 GMT -6
Maybe I'm the stupid one... Of course, it has always been a business Yeah, did you catch how they were calling this "the song of the summer" Nah. Here's the real Feel Good Hit of the Summer: |
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