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Post by gevermil on Apr 24, 2016 11:55:18 GMT -6
I've built the mk47 the du67 and du47fet .
The fet sits on the kick drum and the mk47 although not earth shattering , usually does a good job on anything . The du67 -I've been tweeking to get something more out out it .
It's lacking something .
So what DIY Mics were successes for you ?
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 24, 2016 12:11:33 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum pal, My C12 is quite nice, and my MKU47(s) is pretty badass, as well as my MK47, I'm thinking of turning my MK47 into a super cardoid for more punchy FET47 type duties, the DIY 67's i've heard aren't very much like the real deal Neumann U67's from what i've heard with my own ears, not sure why that is?
search "winecamp shootout" for some good DIY clips comparing diy's/and some real deal stuff as well.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 25, 2016 12:35:44 GMT -6
Welcome, gevermilTony, should I post your artwork you sent back with my pre? lol |
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Post by gevermil on Apr 25, 2016 17:45:16 GMT -6
Thanks guys
I know this may be a tired subject
I was able to do some real world comparisons
And found the mk47 hangs in there with the
Real deal . Not the same but nice .
But the mku47 is tempting .
I'm gonna. Listen to that shootout now
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Post by rocinante on Apr 27, 2016 7:50:44 GMT -6
Happy owner of d-u87 x 2 and mk47 and d-47fet. Cambell capsule on one 87 and rk-67 capsule on another.
Use and like them all.
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Post by svart on Apr 27, 2016 7:58:49 GMT -6
I've built a handful of mics over the years..
I machined my own frame and sourced/diamond cut my own magnets for a ribbon mic (before there were kits and cheap chinese ribbons.. But it was only marginal in performance).
I built my own electret mics..
More recently I built a C12.
And the last one was building a non-kit U47. Thiersch capsule, TAB transformer, 10$ NOS ebay tube, russian military surplus caps, generic donor body and a variety of parts from the scrap bin. Cost me about 800$ and Shannon said it was one of the best ones he's heard.
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Post by ericn on May 14, 2016 21:21:10 GMT -6
I've built a handful of mics over the years.. I machined my own frame and sourced/diamond cut my own magnets for a ribbon mic (before there were kits and cheap chinese ribbons.. But it was only marginal in performance). I built my own electret mics.. More recently I built a C12. And the last one was building a non-kit U47. Thiersch capsule, TAB transformer, 10$ NOS ebay tube, russian military surplus caps, generic donor body and a variety of parts from the scrap bin. Cost me about 800$ and Shannon said it was one of the best ones he's heard. I loved Chris's 47 on our own Herbie's voice at JKs place! Nice to know my taste and DR Microphone are pretty much in line! Though Chris is a pretty smart guy, and his stories of sewer robots will amaze you ! |
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Post by Hendyamps on Oct 13, 2016 12:54:30 GMT -6
So I bought a crappy Apex generic tube mic in order to gut it and see if I could design and build a high voltage Mosfet mic using an LND150 with a C12 capsule. Totally worked and it is now used on a continual basis in the studio for vocals.
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Post by dmp on Nov 30, 2016 12:55:05 GMT -6
I've built a few LDC tube mics - here they are with my thoughts. I grouped them with what they've gotten the most use for since that dominates my observations
Guitars, sometimes vocals:
G7 EF86 with dale capsule
- nice darkish sound. I don't reach for this mic much, probably because it's not quite as special for some reason
Poctop D67 w/ Beezneez capsule
- very nice mic but like others have found, not a real vintage U67. Great on elec guitars. vintage (dark smeared) sound
Poctop M269 w/ Chinese capsule
- haven't used enough to say, but pretty similar to the D67
Drum overheads (pairs)
Royer 5840 mics with Chinese C12 capsule
- Really good --- on drum overheads they get a thicker roomier sound than the 251 style mics
251 style mics (ptp) 12ay7 with Chinese 47 capsules
- Really good -- on drum overheads they get a more present, tighter sound than the Royers
Main Vocal / Instrument mics
Matador C12 with TC capsule
- Awesome, brighter than the u47
U47 EF800 (ptp) with Threisch blueline
- Awesome.
I definitely have moved towards PTP mics built on Acrylic vs. PCB mics.
I built a version of the Royer with and without a blocking cap between the capsule and grid and didn't notice a difference.
I've used the Beyer peanut transformers on several of the mics. A cheap AND awesome option.
I think the capsule is the difference between a pretty good mic and an awesome mic. The Threisch is the only center terminated capsule I've heard that is awesome. The TC capsule is great, but I don't sense as big a difference from the Chinese edge terminated capsules.
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Post by rocinante on Dec 1, 2016 9:49:15 GMT -6
Any pics of the Royers or Matadors c12 by any chance? Ive been leaning in the direction of those two mics? Whose built Microphone Parts mics? I've built a few LDC tube mics - here they are with my thoughts. I grouped them with what they've gotten the most use for since that dominates my observations Guitars, sometimes vocals:G7 EF86 with dale capsule - nice darkish sound. I don't reach for this mic much, probably because it's not quite as special for some reason Poctop D67 w/ Beezneez capsule - very nice mic but like others have found, not a real vintage U67. Great on elec guitars. vintage (dark smeared) soundPoctop M269 w/ Chinese capsule - haven't used enough to say, but pretty similar to the D67 Drum overheads (pairs)Royer 5840 mics with Chinese C12 capsule - Really good --- on drum overheads they get a thicker roomier sound than the 251 style mics 251 style mics (ptp) 12ay7 with Chinese 47 capsules - Really good -- on drum overheads they get a more present, tighter sound than the Royers Main Vocal / Instrument micsMatador C12 with TC capsule - Awesome, brighter than the u47U47 EF800 (ptp) with Threisch blueline - Awesome. I definitely have moved towards PTP mics built on Acrylic vs. PCB mics. I built a version of the Royer with and without a blocking cap between the capsule and grid and didn't notice a difference. I've used the Beyer peanut transformers on several of the mics. A cheap AND awesome option. I think the capsule is the difference between a pretty good mic and an awesome mic. The Threisch is the only center terminated capsule I've heard that is awesome. The TC capsule is great, but I don't sense as big a difference from the Chinese edge terminated capsules. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 1, 2016 10:56:06 GMT -6
A buddy built the older Microphone Parts C12: nice mike and they have since upgraded their capsule.
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Post by dmp on Dec 1, 2016 11:13:31 GMT -6
Here's the Royer pair - the bodies are gutted & painted MXL 2001 I'll see if I can get a pic of the C12. It is in a Apex body. Attachments:
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Post by dmp on Dec 1, 2016 11:18:33 GMT -6
Well I found a pic of the U47 so I thought I'd post it. First body I made from scratch, with soldered brass stock. Attachments:
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Post by gevermil on Dec 4, 2016 14:45:49 GMT -6
What transformer did you go with for the ef800 mic ?
This is my next build
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Post by rowmat on Dec 4, 2016 17:10:44 GMT -6
I built a Matador C12 with a parts kit from Chunger, a Tim Campbell CK12 capsule and a NOS GE-6072 tube from Bowie. I still need to tweak it a bit, but so far, so good. Here's pic of it under final construction about six weeks ago fitted with a Mullard 12AT7 tube prior to receiving the 6072.  |
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Post by dmp on Dec 5, 2016 10:34:35 GMT -6
I used a Beyer 10:1 in reverse in that ef800 mic.
I have a similar pair in the works in u47 clone bodies that I'm going to try AMI.
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Post by dandeurloo on Dec 5, 2016 10:51:27 GMT -6
I have been PTP mine lately as well. It seems like the best way to keep the HIz stuff clean!
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 5, 2016 13:15:20 GMT -6
"The TC capsule is great, but I don't sense as big a difference from the Chinese edge terminated capsules."
Hey dmp, drop me a line. This I'd like to hear more about.
Do you mean that a chinese fake CK12 type capsule sounds closer to mine than a chinese k47 sounds compared to Thiersch's?
Could it be something else about your build?
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Post by dmp on Dec 15, 2016 9:00:29 GMT -6
"Hey dmp, drop me a line. This I'd like to hear more about.
Do you mean that a chinese fake CK12 type capsule sounds closer to mine than a chinese k47 sounds compared to Thiersch's?
Could it be something else about your build?"
I probably could have put that a lot better. Basically I've been disappointed in Chinese center terminated capsules (47 type). I like the Chinese edge terminated more (c12 type).
That's what I meant to say. Both the TC capsule and the Thiersch are fantastic. Different in what they give you (in a good way) - but both sound really special.
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