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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 20:31:18 GMT -6
Saw him in '04. Best musicianship in a band I've ever seen. Did his old songs acoustic solo.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 21, 2016 20:45:25 GMT -6
Prince is one of our main MN exports. Everyone here has a prince story. Some are good, some are bad, they are all very interesting. One thing for sure is he was EXTREMELY talented. He is hands down the best guitar player I have ever seen play live. He was a freak of nature. I don't love all of his song but I do love some, and again his talent was something to admire. His super bowl performance was amazing and so was his solo in the link below. He made everyone else look silly. What did I say.... amazing performance.... balls.... full of faith....Amazing.... God made a mistake yesterday.... sigh....
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Post by joseph on Apr 21, 2016 20:53:28 GMT -6
Prince makes you doubt your assumptions about what kind of music you like and what music should sound like period.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 21:02:10 GMT -6
I've always heard this - that Purple Rain was a live recording...wonder if that's just legend?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 21:02:44 GMT -6
I know that video isn't it obviously...
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Post by ericn on Apr 21, 2016 21:15:15 GMT -6
I've always heard this - that Purple Rain was a live recording...wonder if that's just legend? "Live" but with overdubs? think it was 1st ave club?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 21:44:37 GMT -6
Yeah - live with OD's...David Z recorded it...think he's still here in Nashville.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 21, 2016 21:53:23 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Apr 21, 2016 21:57:07 GMT -6
The best had to be Prince covering The foo fighters at the Super Bowl , in response to Grohls Darling Nicki , and Gyohls reaction! genuine rock and roll emotion.
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Post by popmann on Apr 21, 2016 21:57:10 GMT -6
Saw him in '04. Best musicianship in a band I've ever seen. Did his old songs acoustic solo. Pretty sure that was the last time I saw him, too. Arena downtown? First being on the Purple Rain tour when I was 11 or 12. Actually, those night've been the only times. I feel like he stopped touring in the 80s....no? Other than maybe special engagements. And then picked it back up once internet subscription music proved not profitable....
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Post by ericn on Apr 21, 2016 22:09:53 GMT -6
Yeah I always admired Prince's rock sensibilities more than his funk. He was a fu@king rock star. While I was never part of the inner circle, I did spend enough time around him to know he would have wanted you to say musical or Jazz sense, he wanted to be the next Miles or Motzart. Take us to another level.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 21, 2016 22:10:12 GMT -6
"And then picked it back up once internet subscription music proved not profitable...."
That seems a little snarky popmann, not sure if you meant it that way.
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Post by ericn on Apr 21, 2016 22:20:24 GMT -6
Prince is one of our main MN exports. Everyone here has a prince story. Some are good, some are bad, they are all very interesting. One thing for sure is he was EXTREMELY talented. He is hands down the best guitar player I have ever seen play live. He was a freak of nature. I don't love all of his song but I do love some, and again his talent was something to admire. His super bowl performance was amazing and so was his solo in the link below. He made everyone else look silly. Often people were put off by what they thought was his attitude, really he was this shy little guy, except for when he was playing, it was like 2 different people. he was lucky enough to have made the money to do what ever whim he had and did. His life as a kid was far from easy and his relationship with his father was a tough one. Because I had lost my father at 10, we spent a bit of time talking about our fathers, and those and many other things will remain private. I think part of what got me the chance to spend time working with him was that even at 16 I knew enough to keep my mouth shut, in fact a girl dumped me because she thought I was cheating because I was spending my weekends driving back and forth between Wausau and the Twin Cities sleeping on a sofa at the studio and tracking the man.
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Post by levon on Apr 21, 2016 23:00:58 GMT -6
Wow, Eric, that must've been a blast. What a loss.
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Post by levon on Apr 21, 2016 23:11:35 GMT -6
Just read some rumors about an overdose. They say he was treated for OD a week ago after his plane made an emergency landing, when officially he had the flu. Stupid. Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 3:51:32 GMT -6
Interesting stories, Eric, indeed. I always wondered about his androgynic style which was obviously rebellion against the generation of "old men". I.e. the fathers... It was the same that time with the "hairspray metal" guys. How can you rebel against a conservative gemeration of parents which do not understand what you do? Sure, you can do with androgynic look - long hair, unisex clothes. Maybe nothing is more provoking in a world of old men that lay claim to constant adaption of the nex generation to their values. Let's say i had a quite bad relationship to my father, started to refusing to cut my hair with 12 (until now, it seems...) and later broke with him, totally, did not speak to him for 20 years now... This story of yours makes perfect sense to me, Eric, very interesting and enlightening about Prince as a private person. I can imagine there are some strong motivations to choose to express yourself with music in quite extreme or unique ways. Rebellion beeing one, overcoming shyness and maybe even low self esteem from childhood maybe another. It is not surprising many very good frontmen are at least one foot larger on stage than in "real life". And i would npt be surprised if many great musicians had ... tough ... relationships to their fathers. Now that i think about it - the father of my ex died early...having no fathers (one way or the other) was really something we shared and often talked about... Thanks for the story, Eric.
Btw. Tony - i hope you did not misunderstand my statement. Prince was huuuge here in Europe, too. I barely know a musician who does not admit he was a genious, from whatever musical scene they come... It is just that he probably was not hyped like Michael Jackson, and probably not as commercially successful despite his incredible talent. I just think he was at least on par with talent, in my opinion he was more talented (- and more sane and mature in life as in musical expression)... And as was said - he sure had the funk, a very unique style, perfectionism, stage presence, everything needed to become a star- but when i saw him live, i also saw this rockstar thing. This guy and his guitar, that was pure rock'n'roll. Sex, power, rebellion, all that stuff... a phenomenon indeed. he was so incredibly talented that i sometimes thought that playing in his band must have been somehow like playing in Zappa's band. You know he is a genious, and you have to be a genious on your instrument, too, to be chosen to play with him. Because he could not play all instruments himself for live situations. AFAIK he was an incredible multiinstrumentalist...
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Post by ericn on Apr 22, 2016 7:34:49 GMT -6
Prince probably out sold Micheal, but he did it with 39 records, not a handful. The music was his life there is probably enough stuff in the vault at PP ready for release of at least another 39 albums, not early takes, but music you have never heard. Somebody once was comparing him to one of the old Brill building song writers and a guy who was in the know responded " No, his out out wasn't like a Brill building guy, it was like the Whole Brill Building" Music was his favorite drug, it was his real voice. With his music he wasn't a 5'2 quiet shy guy, he was bigger than life.
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Post by rocinante on Apr 22, 2016 10:16:50 GMT -6
Seriously all of Minneapolis is in mourning over Prince's death and it's understandable he was a poor boy from the local neighborhood lived in the burbs in Chanhassen and whether or not you like his music there was no doubting his talent. Sylvia Massey's story of going to his studio and recording him is a really great description of what Prince was like and his ingeniousness. I wasn't a fan but there was no doubt at how gifted he was. There's many a story of him now that he's gone and that he can't stop them from telling them and from what I heard he was actually really really funny and incredibly smart. 2016 has taken another.
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Post by drbill on Apr 22, 2016 14:12:08 GMT -6
He is hands down the best guitar player I have ever seen play live. He was a freak of nature. No denying that. Amazing talent. Off the charts guitarist. Scary amazing businessman. All around phenom. RIP Prince. Thx for that video Dan.
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Post by stratboy on Apr 22, 2016 16:11:31 GMT -6
Saw him in '04. Best musicianship in a band I've ever seen. Did his old songs acoustic solo. I saw that tour! Little Red Corvette acoustic was amazing. Made me reconsider the whole song in new ways.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 11:21:21 GMT -6
Yes, Eric, this is indeed another crazy fact about Prince - the amazing quantity of great creative output. Something he also shares with Zappa and maybe every real supergenious of music.... If you are incredibly good doing a creative musical work, it seems logical to get obsessive with it and get used to output music with every breath...
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