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Post by ericn on Aug 24, 2023 10:20:44 GMT -6
Holy thread restarter Batman! I started this thread in 2016 .... and I still haven't decided on an 1176! I'd demo the Acme Opticom 500, it can do the 2A style thing (a bit clearer with extra tone under heavier comp) although it can also absolutely smash drums etc. in fast mode. I had the UA 1176's in the 6176 channel and the Acme's replaced them. Danny, I’m sure the Acme is great, but 6176 really was a UA bastardized 1176, sure it was FET based said UA on the box but man those things never really had the tone of an 1176. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 10:44:07 GMT -6
You're not wrong Eric but I've used 1176's in various forms for many years (in studio's, plugs, clones etc). I just find the Acme more versatile, track some acoustic or vox in 2A mode then flip to fast for a grand old parallel drum bus smasher.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 24, 2023 11:03:32 GMT -6
Stam 76 adf or adg for the win, 3 76’s in one.
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Post by drbill on Aug 24, 2023 11:08:12 GMT -6
For me, it would either be the AudioScape or the Splice. I've had over the top exemplary service from both companies.
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Post by smashlord on Aug 24, 2023 11:24:27 GMT -6
Splice hands down. 4 different revisions in one, blend knob, HPF and it sounds great.
Only con is I don't think the SLAM mode sounds like doing ABI... its more like the Brit mode on a Distressor, which doesn't sound like ABI, either.
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 24, 2023 11:26:19 GMT -6
Holy thread restarter Batman! I started this thread in 2016 .... and I still haven't decided on an 1176! I'd demo the Acme Opticom 500, it can do the 2A style thing (a bit clearer with extra tone under heavier comp) although it can also absolutely smash drums etc. in fast mode. I had the UA 1176's in the 6176 channel and the Acme's replaced them. I just bought an Audioscape Opto Comp (which sounds stunning) So I’m good for tube opto compression. Just want a great FET 1176  |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 24, 2023 12:40:09 GMT -6
Great review. Josh does do excellent review videos! After watching the video, I'm thinking the Bluey is probably going to be the best pick for me as it has the Mix knob perfect for tracking and dialing in the right amount of hair and edge and it has a great vibe. Plus, Josh makes a good point, I also really like the Waves CLA 76 - it has a very different vibe to the UAD 1176 Mk2 plugins and I often find myself reaching for it over everything else. So if I track with this Bluey then the Waves CLA 76 will get more action from the signal and allow me to continue with my ITB workflow. Decision made :-) Thanks |
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Post by drbill on Aug 24, 2023 14:00:22 GMT -6
Great review. Josh does do excellent review videos! After watching the video, I'm thinking the Bluey is probably going to be the best pick for me as it has the Mix knob perfect for tracking and dialing in the right amount of hair and edge and it has a great vibe. Plus, Josh makes a good point, I also really like the Waves CLA 76 - it has a very different vibe to the UAD 1176 Mk2 plugins and I often find myself reaching for it over everything else. So if I track with this Bluey then the Waves CLA 76 will get more action from the signal and allow me to continue with my ITB workflow. Decision made :-) Thanks Not to confuse things, but the Splice has mix knob as well, and more options on the various A/D combinations. |
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Post by seawell on Aug 24, 2023 14:09:18 GMT -6
Great review. Josh does do excellent review videos! After watching the video, I'm thinking the Bluey is probably going to be the best pick for me as it has the Mix knob perfect for tracking and dialing in the right amount of hair and edge and it has a great vibe. Plus, Josh makes a good point, I also really like the Waves CLA 76 - it has a very different vibe to the UAD 1176 Mk2 plugins and I often find myself reaching for it over everything else. So if I track with this Bluey then the Waves CLA 76 will get more action from the signal and allow me to continue with my ITB workflow. Decision made :-) Thanks Thanks guys! I appreciate the kind words. Just to add a little to it, the Bluey doesn’t really sound anything like the Stam, AudioScape or Splice. Whatever mods happened to CLA’s unit over the years to keep it working were definitely a happy accident. As a matter of fact, I still happily own/use the Bluey and a Stam ADG. They are different enough to justify owning both and cover a ton of ground 👍🏻 |
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Post by niklas1073 on Aug 24, 2023 14:45:50 GMT -6
I can vouch for the wes beta76. I use it for tracking. Great sound, great build. The vintage/ modern (carnhill/transformerless) sits usually on the carnhill. But today I was tracking some acoustics in the morning for an americana project and in the afternoon I did a voice over for some commercials, switched over to modern and bam, from sweet character to transparent and boring in a good way. The sc. filters are a neat add on too.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 24, 2023 15:34:48 GMT -6
I’ve really liked my AS 76F
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Post by hadaja on Aug 24, 2023 15:59:51 GMT -6
+1 another satisfied Bluey customer here.
I Did also own the Splice as well but thats gone.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 24, 2023 16:00:08 GMT -6
I'll just say this about the AS. I had a Retro 176 at the same time I had first gotten my 76F. Had a client I was recording vocals on for a project and we both preferred the sound of the chain with the 76F over the 176. Which was very surprising to me. Take that for what it's worth. Anecdotal...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 23:12:44 GMT -6
Just want a great FET 1176 You know what's cheaper and sounds better than a 1176? A blanking plate.
Ward if you're feeling nostalgic for Fletcher there we go.
P.S jokes aside they're not that bad, I just always find something I prefer like an API 2500, SSL G bus etc.
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 25, 2023 1:17:09 GMT -6
Just want a great FET 1176 You know what's cheaper and sounds better than a 1176? A blanking plate.
Ward if you're feeling nostalgic for Fletcher there we go.
P.S jokes aside they're not that bad, I just always find something I prefer like an API 2500, SSL G bus etc.
I’m not sure how two stereo bus compressors one I already use the SSL VCA and one I really don’t like at all and would rather use “a blanking plate” the API 2500 (personally speaking) has to do with an industry standard vocal tracking compressor like a 76a - which I do love the sound of. You got me there, it’s a strange comparison if we’re talking Apples to Apples (so to speak) But I did like your Fletcher impression Though he always ended with. You might, I wouldn’t. And YMMV and clearly it does. I actually bought quite a few pieces of my set up from recommendations by Fletcher he does seem to know his gear. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 1:51:35 GMT -6
I’m not sure how two stereo bus compressors one I already use the SSL VCA and one I really don’t like at all and would rather use “a blanking plate” the API 2500 (personally speaking) has to do with an industry standard vocal tracking compressor like a 76a - which I do love the sound of. You got me there, it’s a strange comparison if we’re talking Apples to Apples (so to speak) But I did like your Fletcher impression Though he always ended with. You might, I wouldn’t. And YMMV and clearly it does. I actually bought quite a few pieces of my set up from recommendations by Fletcher he does seem to know his gear. Ha, well in more than one studio's they either had 1176's (Rev A & D if I remember right) hooked into an aux as a stereo pair for drum bus compression (because that's what they mainly used them for). Some also had a 1176 inline from an external mic amp for vox but there was usually something before it like a 2A. Yes, there's also the 1176 "guitar trick" where you essentially don't actually compress anything and just use it as a fuzz box. That's quite common in rock / metal..
Personally I reuse outboard for different tasks, for example again with the Acme's I'll track mono vox with it then flip it to use on a number of busses etc. (drums, synths) saves a bit of $$$'s in places.
There's many things you can do outside of a specific person's use case (I know you were asking about bass & vox but we do meander), also I can't read minds Tenor so I wouldn't have known about your opinion on the API 2500. I had the 529 in my studio quite recently, I found it a bit finnicky but it does love a drum bus. For single mono recording there's ample amounts of choices but if your heart is set on a 1176 then cool. Serpent Splice was pretty good, lots of features, does multiple types, well built etc.
Although just to mimic: You might, I wouldn't. YMMV and clearly it does  .. |
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Post by Chad on Aug 25, 2023 9:11:48 GMT -6
Just want a great FET 1176 You know what's cheaper and sounds better than a 1176? A blanking plate.
Ward if you're feeling nostalgic for Fletcher there we go.
P.S jokes aside they're not that bad, I just always find something I prefer like an API 2500, SSL G bus etc.
I’ll add… “Stay positive. Test negative.” |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 25, 2023 15:14:20 GMT -6
WesAudio ng76s showing up here later today! Having kinda decided on a Bluey, I looked up the Wes Audio NG76s after you mentioned it and it's got a really amazing feature set! Can you give any feedback yet as to how it sounds? Thanks |
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Post by Ward on Aug 25, 2023 15:18:10 GMT -6
Just want a great FET 1176 Bet you can't stop at one! Get back to me after you have an A, a D and an F and then I'll let you know what to get next. FETs are fabulous. Don't mind @soriantis. He will be a believer yet. |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 25, 2023 18:26:25 GMT -6
Just want a great FET 1176 Bet you can't stop at one! Get back to me after you have an A, a D and an F and then I'll let you know what to get next. FETs are fabulous. Don't mind @soriantis. He will be a believer yet. I have literally one 2U rack space and two 500 series slots and that’s it, absolutely no room for anything thing else. So it has to be one only I’m afraid - I’m going to be 1176 monogamous! You obviously get around a bit with those FET comps |
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Post by deaconblues on Aug 25, 2023 21:26:56 GMT -6
WesAudio ng76s showing up here later today! Having kinda decided on a Bluey, I looked up the Wes Audio NG76s after you mentioned it and it's got a really amazing feature set! Can you give any feedback yet as to how it sounds? Thanks Initial testing: excellent tonal/saturation options, useful sidechain filters, stereo matching is tight, and the plugins just work. I'm hoping to spend some time getting a feel for all of the different saturation options this weekend. I will say these are not the 1176s for those prone to decision paralysis while tracking/mixing. Impressed with WesAudio gear and software. |
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Post by spindrift on Aug 26, 2023 8:04:24 GMT -6
I’ve been collecting Mohog MoFET76 units lately. What a versatile and great sounding limiter! Do any of these more recent 1176 attempts stack up to what Brandon accomplished with his short lived Mohog operation?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 8:37:38 GMT -6
I’ve been collecting Mohog MoFET76 units lately. What a versatile and great sounding limiter! Do any of these more recent 1176 attempts stack up to what Brandon accomplished with his short lived Mohog operation? Send me one and I'll let you know. |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 26, 2023 10:16:23 GMT -6
I’ve been collecting Mohog MoFET76 units lately. What a versatile and great sounding limiter! Do any of these more recent 1176 attempts stack up to what Brandon accomplished with his short lived Mohog operation? I've never heard anyone ever say anything negative about a Mohog 76 .... I wonder why he stopped making them? |
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Post by drbill on Aug 26, 2023 12:42:18 GMT -6
Bet you can't stop at one! Get back to me after you have an A, a D and an F and then I'll let you know what to get next. FETs are fabulous. Don't mind @soriantis . He will be a believer yet. <snipped irrelevant anti-GAS stuff> Then the answer is crystal clear - (2) 500 Splices. So you can have stereo A's, Stereo D's or a combo setup. Then a 2RU Rev F from Audioscape. Perfect, and DONE! |
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