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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:38:48 GMT -6
I ordered a 4000. Can compare to my RJR if and when it gets here. Very interested cause I'll have both those two as well, my hunch is that the RJR will be a cleaner/hifi take on what the SSL does.
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 18, 2016 19:17:48 GMT -6
Not to mention the sa2a were wired incorrectly where the input would be phase reversed with the output. This worries me because I don't have multimeter and soldering kit anymore, so this would be added expense to be fixed if Stam " mistakenly" wired the sa4000 incorrectly. Hoping this is not the case and am still rooting for Stam and definitely want the sa4000 to be a grand slam in all regards. What does this mean? What would this sound like? I have an SA-2A. Do I need to be worried about this? I haven't noticed anything weird sounding. Would the output be attenuated or something?
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 18, 2016 20:03:33 GMT -6
In the demo vido shown here, someone noticed that one of the pots was apparently reversed. Stam said it was a prototype and that the production models would be wired correctly. I don't think this had anything to do with the 2a.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 19, 2016 11:31:57 GMT -6
Not to mention the sa2a were wired incorrectly where the input would be phase reversed with the output. This worries me because I don't have multimeter and soldering kit anymore, so this would be added expense to be fixed if Stam " mistakenly" wired the sa4000 incorrectly. Hoping this is not the case and am still rooting for Stam and definitely want the sa4000 to be a grand slam in all regards. What does this mean? What would this sound like? I have an SA-2A. Do I need to be worried about this? I haven't noticed anything weird sounding. Would the output be attenuated or something? The input and output ate phase reversed since it's a mono signal it should not affect it drastically if anything maybe the output is reduced by a db or two. There was a big thread on the purple site ( got moved to moan zone) that has been deleted that had stated the fix for it. I posted a link above to verify the phase reversal issue. Maybe contact the OP of the thread I copied and ask. I will post the link again as long as I'm not frustrating SeƱor John Kenn my apologies if I'm going against the grain. www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-shoot-outs-sound-file-comparisons-audio-tests/1101100-stam-sa-2a-transformer-swap-utc-ha-100x-24-a.htmlPost 2 In short, I don't see how the mono signal is affected other than being out of phase with the input signal, phase affects two or more audio signals recorded together (from my knowledge) It appears the trafo needs to be rewired correctly to give a in phase input and output. The op details with the vintage trafos, but not the cinemags, maybe Stam can assist you. The new batch of SA2a should be corrected, as that was one of the reasons the OP made the thread, so others SA2A's would be wired in phase! Too bad it's deleted.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 19, 2016 11:40:04 GMT -6
In the demo vido shown here, someone noticed that one of the pots was apparently reversed. Stam said it was a prototype and that the production models would be wired correctly. I don't think this had anything to do with the 2a. Yes the threshold is backwards on the sa4000 video and Gustav pointed that out to Stam, saying they needed to be changed if not assembled to be "correct" layout. I am talking about the SA2A in my other posts regarding "phase" and "transformers". This has no association with SA4000. Hope that clarifies a bit! Have a great day recording
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Post by wiz on Aug 22, 2016 23:29:47 GMT -6
anyone got their invoice to pay the remainder yet?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by properagenda on Aug 22, 2016 23:50:09 GMT -6
Yes! I got mine earlier today.
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Post by wiz on Aug 23, 2016 0:02:58 GMT -6
Yes! I got mine earlier today. just curious, what date did you place your order.. mine was 8 Dec. cheers Wiz
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Post by properagenda on Aug 23, 2016 0:53:05 GMT -6
Yes! I got mine earlier today. just curious, what date did you place your order.. mine was 8 Dec. cheers Wiz Had to look it up...it was December 10th.
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Post by wiz on Aug 23, 2016 0:54:33 GMT -6
just curious, what date did you place your order.. mine was 8 Dec. cheers Wiz Had to look it up...it was December 10th. Thanks for chasing that up... cheers wiz
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 23, 2016 3:51:58 GMT -6
Wow y'all have been waiting way longer than I, I also have no invoice for further payment. Glad y'all will be getting your units!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 23, 2016 6:09:17 GMT -6
December 10 for me. No final invoice yet here.
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Post by wiz on Aug 23, 2016 16:25:43 GMT -6
I wrote to Joshua.
I got an email back this morning.. he is working through the invoices and will have sent all out by this week.
cool
cheers
Wiz
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 23, 2016 16:58:46 GMT -6
Paid my invoice today. Already got an SSL style comp, but man, the price I got on this was too good to pass up.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 23, 2016 20:48:05 GMT -6
Can't wait to hear the first impressions. Good luck guys.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Aug 24, 2016 8:10:56 GMT -6
Not to mention the sa2a were wired incorrectly where the input would be phase reversed with the output. This worries me because I don't have multimeter and soldering kit anymore, so this would be added expense to be fixed if Stam " mistakenly" wired the sa4000 incorrectly. Hoping this is not the case and am still rooting for Stam and definitely want the sa4000 to be a grand slam in all regards. What does this mean? What would this sound like? I have an SA-2A. Do I need to be worried about this? I haven't noticed anything weird sounding. Would the output be attenuated or something? Lets say you have an electric bass with both a DI and an amp signal. When you recorded it they were both in phase with one another. Now, you send the amp track to the compressor, which flips it out of phase. When the signal comes back in, it will be out of phase with the DI signal. Definitely something anybody who is listening will notice. You could simply reverse the phase of the new signal and it would be fine - but it is a fix that you shouldn't have to deal with when things are wired properly.
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 24, 2016 8:48:18 GMT -6
What does this mean? What would this sound like? I have an SA-2A. Do I need to be worried about this? I haven't noticed anything weird sounding. Would the output be attenuated or something? Lets say you have an electric bass with both a DI and an amp signal. When you recorded it they were both in phase with one another. Now, you send the amp track to the compressor, which flips it out of phase. When the signal comes back in, it will be out of phase with the DI signal. Definitely something anybody who is listening will notice. You could simply reverse the phase of the new signal and it would be fine - but it is a fix that you shouldn't have to deal with when things are wired properly. Yeah, I was just thinking that last night. Looks like I gotta get in there and give this a look.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Aug 24, 2016 9:12:43 GMT -6
Just print a click track to an audio channel ITB
Take the same click and print it to another audio track after sending it to the compressor.
You'll know if 2 mins if its in phase or not. If it isn't, switch pins 2 and 3 on the input xlr on the comp.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 30, 2016 14:35:38 GMT -6
Any more invoices or units shipped? The Stam site said xlr I/o however, the pics posted on FB are trs I/o. Still looking forward to receiving an invoice and putting the unit thru its paces
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 30, 2016 14:37:38 GMT -6
Any more invoices or units shipped? The Stam site said xlr I/o however, the pics posted on FB are trs I/o. Still looking forward to receiving an invoice and putting the unit thru its paces I got an invoice, price was wrong, got that squared away and paid, still waiting on a tracking number though.
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Post by jdc on Aug 30, 2016 15:42:29 GMT -6
still waiting on my invoice
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Post by jeremygillespie on Aug 30, 2016 15:51:34 GMT -6
No invoice as of yet, I ordered in March. Slightly annoyed at the TRS only input and output. I'll be changing that when I get the unit.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 30, 2016 15:57:55 GMT -6
No invoice as of yet, I ordered in March. Slightly annoyed at the TRS only input and output. I'll be changing that when I get the unit. Why the dislike for TRS? Just because they don't lock?
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Post by wiz on Aug 30, 2016 16:23:39 GMT -6
No invoice as of yet, I ordered in March. Slightly annoyed at the TRS only input and output. I'll be changing that when I get the unit. Why the dislike for TRS? Just because they don't lock? week I will have to check, I think I ordered XLR to TRS cables to go to the patch bay... 8| Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 30, 2016 16:56:08 GMT -6
Haven't heard anything about mine either.
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