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Post by mobeach on Oct 26, 2015 18:04:35 GMT -6
I'm going with this one I think, after weighing all the variables I think the Casio Privia has more versatile functions and sounds.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 26, 2015 18:11:32 GMT -6
I don't know anything about this stuff, but I haven't seen anyone come through on tour with a Casio. Most guys come through with a Yamaha for piano sounds and a Nord for their organ and synths.
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Post by Guitar on Oct 26, 2015 19:00:27 GMT -6
Yamaha knows keyboards. They make one of the most famous grand pianos the C7, and the most famous digital synthesizer of all time the DX7, and the most successful workstation series Motif. I think they know 1 or 2 things about the keyboard.
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Post by yotonic on Oct 26, 2015 20:47:13 GMT -6
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Post by mobeach on Oct 27, 2015 4:48:09 GMT -6
I don't know anything about this stuff, but I haven't seen anyone come through on tour with a Casio. Most guys come through with a Yamaha for piano sounds and a Nord for their organ and synths. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 27, 2015 5:29:50 GMT -6
I don't know anything about this stuff, but I haven't seen anyone come through on tour with a Casio. Most guys come through with a Yamaha for piano sounds and a Nord for their organ and synths. I don't trust guys opinions if they get their stuff for free. |
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Post by mobeach on Oct 27, 2015 12:36:03 GMT -6
I don't trust guys opinions if they get their stuff for free. Casio has been making $1000+ synths and keyboards for quite a while now, I've owned a bunch and this one seems to offer more than the others in the same price bracket. I love Korg but the Krome, which is a few hundred more than this, has horrible weighted action. |
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Post by popmann on Oct 27, 2015 23:40:09 GMT -6
Yamaha has the biggest artist relations dept in a keyboard company EVER. Casio is just doing the same thing--giving away boards to anyone who might be seen playing them. I know someone who loves his Px5s. He's a lot better (and objectively VERY different styled) player than me....he replaced his S90ES with it. I don't remember if the Yammy died or he bought this as a "upgrade"--I do remember he had a SV1, which I told him to ignore, but he didn't listen to me. I think he just liked how cool it looked and felt--and it DOES both....just didn't SOUND good. In that spirit, the Krome shouldn't be a contender, IMO. It's not related to the Kronos in anyway other than being sold by the same company--not the same RH3 board, it's a ROMpler rather than a disk streamer with an actual electric and acoustic piano engine(s). I don't know anything in the (NEW) price range I'd look at other than the Privia. I mean, it's "just" on par with S90es/ex era DPs which I don't know what those run used....but, the reason they've gotten SO much market share so quickly is they made a solid ROMpler DP for a grand, where the other companies charge twice that for theirs. But, I also would encourage you to go play the premiere DPs....your Yammy C4....Kawai MP11 (good luck finding on of those)...maybe the Kronos, though, for live it's gonna be a much more complex beast since it's not just a DP. If as a player I could appreciate and exploitthe difference....I'd so eat rice and beans for a while or buy on credit if there's a time crunch....I don't tend to scrimp on instruments. Part of my being a cheap ass about a lot of other things allows that.  I had my previous two DPs for 8-9 years each. 88s are not disposable tech like 61 note synths. I paid $1600 for the Pc2x back in the early 00s....and traded it for $700 credit towards the Kronos a few years ago. So, I paid LESS than a grand to play it for a decade or so....just another way to look at the financial end of thing. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 29, 2015 8:54:00 GMT -6
For $350 a used Kurzweil PC88 is hard to beat, but A Digital piano is as much about feel as a 68 Givson or 1920 Stienway!
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Post by mobeach on Oct 29, 2015 10:24:55 GMT -6
Yamaha has the biggest artist relations dept in a keyboard company EVER. Casio is just doing the same thing--giving away boards to anyone who might be seen playing them. I know someone who loves his Px5s. He's a lot better (and objectively VERY different styled) player than me....he replaced his S90ES with it. I don't remember if the Yammy died or he bought this as a "upgrade"--I do remember he had a SV1, which I told him to ignore, but he didn't listen to me. I think he just liked how cool it looked and felt--and it DOES both....just didn't SOUND good. In that spirit, the Krome shouldn't be a contender, IMO. It's not related to the Kronos in anyway other than being sold by the same company--not the same RH3 board, it's a ROMpler rather than a disk streamer with an actual electric and acoustic piano engine(s). I don't know anything in the (NEW) price range I'd look at other than the Privia. I mean, it's "just" on par with S90es/ex era DPs which I don't know what those run used....but, the reason they've gotten SO much market share so quickly is they made a solid ROMpler DP for a grand, where the other companies charge twice that for theirs. But, I also would encourage you to go play the premiere DPs....your Yammy C4....Kawai MP11 (good luck finding on of those)...maybe the Kronos, though, for live it's gonna be a much more complex beast since it's not just a DP. If as a player I could appreciate and exploitthe difference....I'd so eat rice and beans for a while or buy on credit if there's a time crunch....I don't tend to scrimp on instruments. Part of my being a cheap ass about a lot of other things allows that. I had my previous two DPs for 8-9 years each. 88s are not disposable tech like 61 note synths. I paid $1600 for the Pc2x back in the early 00s....and traded it for $700 credit towards the Kronos a few years ago. So, I paid LESS than a grand to play it for a decade or so....just another way to look at the financial end of thing. It was delivered yesterday, the digital piano sounds are pretty good, just about all of them sound artificial so nothing new there.. it has some good strings and some really cool synths. It's also very deep with a definite learning curve to it. It's basically a DP, synth and workstation all rolled into one. I'm happy with it. |
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Post by popmann on Oct 29, 2015 10:32:01 GMT -6
Now use it to play Alicia's Keys.  |
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Post by mobeach on Oct 29, 2015 12:17:42 GMT -6
Now use it to play Alicia's Keys. I probably will, it'll make a good 88 key controller too. |
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Post by Quint on Jun 3, 2019 19:55:54 GMT -6
So who here has used the Casio Privia PX-160 as a midi controller?
I've been looking at controllers and need something with good 88 key piano action and good electronics/connectivity for hooking up to the computer for playing sample libraries.
I've heard good things about the PX-160, but most of the comments seem to revolve around using it with the built in sounds and not as a controller for sample libraries.
Sweetwater has it on sale right now for $399 (regularly $499), so I'm tempted.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 4, 2019 10:11:35 GMT -6
So who here has used the Casio Privia PX-160 as a midi controller? I've been looking at controllers and need something with good 88 key piano action and good electronics/connectivity for hooking up to the computer for playing sample libraries. I've heard good things about the PX-160, but most of the comments seem to revolve around using it with the built in sounds and not as a controller for sample libraries. Sweetwater has it on sale right now for $399 (regularly $499), so I'm tempted. FWIW, i think it only has MIDI over USB if I’m not mistaken. How big a deal that is for you is your call. I think the Casios play really nicely. |
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Post by Quint on Jun 4, 2019 11:54:06 GMT -6
So who here has used the Casio Privia PX-160 as a midi controller? I've been looking at controllers and need something with good 88 key piano action and good electronics/connectivity for hooking up to the computer for playing sample libraries. I've heard good things about the PX-160, but most of the comments seem to revolve around using it with the built in sounds and not as a controller for sample libraries. Sweetwater has it on sale right now for $399 (regularly $499), so I'm tempted. FWIW, i think it only has MIDI over USB if I’m not mistaken. How big a deal that is for you is your call. I think the Casios play really nicely. I don't think midi over usb should be an issue for me, that is unless there is some additional amount of latency that will incur over and above a traditional midi connection? |
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 4, 2019 11:57:24 GMT -6
Casio's have great keybeds. I have a cheapo Privia that we use just to practice piano on. They have their place. Don't know anything about the higher end models.
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Post by Quint on Jun 4, 2019 12:44:34 GMT -6
Casio's have great keybeds. I have a cheapo Privia that we use just to practice piano on. They have their place. Don't know anything about the higher end models. I keep hearing that about their keybeds, which is why I've been interested in them, especially for the price. I don't need a lot of frills, as this will just be used as a controller for piano sample libraries but what I do need is a good keybed and good connectivity. The keybed seems to be good, so at this point I'm mostly just trying to make sure that there aren't any issues with connectivity when using it as a controller. Have you had any midi issues with your Privia? Any latency to speak of? |
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 4, 2019 13:22:41 GMT -6
Look for a used Yamaha CP300 you can find them for $400-$500 I have one of those - great weighted keyboard, lots of great sounds not limited to only piano. Capable of using multiple pedals.
Not light, but very well built.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 4, 2019 13:27:23 GMT -6
I don't know anything about this stuff, but I haven't seen anyone come through on tour with a Casio. Most guys come through with a Yamaha for piano sounds and a Nord for their organ and synths. You can't ever trust those pages. Do they actually use the gear or did they just allow use of their name and photo for a payoff? |
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 4, 2019 13:34:41 GMT -6
Casio's have great keybeds. I have a cheapo Privia that we use just to practice piano on. They have their place. Don't know anything about the higher end models. I keep hearing that about their keybeds, which is why I've been interested in them, especially for the price. I don't need a lot of frills, as this will just be used as a controller for piano sample libraries but what I do need is a good keybed and good connectivity. The keybed seems to be good, so at this point I'm mostly just trying to make sure that there aren't any issues with connectivity when using it as a controller. Have you had any midi issues with your Privia? Any latency to speak of? Never used the midi actually, it just sits in the living room forbto play on through the little on board speakers |
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Post by geoff738 on Jun 4, 2019 14:49:34 GMT -6
I think you need to sit down at a Casio and a Roland and a Yamaha and whatever else is in your price range as they will all feel a bit different. Especially if you are a piano player and have a preference to how « weighted » for lack of a better term you like the keyboard to feel. I ended up with a Privia but I was coming at this as a guitar player and Best Buy was blowing the one I bought out as it was being replaced.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Quint on Jun 4, 2019 15:04:48 GMT -6
I think you need to sit down at a Casio and a Roland and a Yamaha and whatever else is in your price range as they will all feel a bit different. Especially if you are a piano player and have a preference to how « weighted » for lack of a better term you like the keyboard to feel. I ended up with a Privia but I was coming at this as a guitar player and Best Buy was blowing the one I bought out as it was being replaced. Cheers, Geoff I've already done a bit of that and I'm perfectly happy with the action on the Privia. I had heard the action was nice and the playing I've tried on the Privia left me feeling the same way. I too am approaching this from a standpoint of not being a true blue piano "player". I'm primarily a drummer and guitar player, so while I have heard good things and personally felt that the action felt nice and comparable to the real piano I have, I also realize that I'm not maybe as discerning as someone who plays the piano as THEIR instrument. I need this for other people to play/record on more than for me, hence, I was curious if any real piano players had an opinion on the keybed of the Privia. Overall comments I've seen seem to be pretty positive on the keybed. Other than seeking out opinions from real piano players on the keybed, I was mostly asking about the "other" stuff like connectivity. |
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I had my previous two DPs for 8-9 years each. 88s are not disposable tech like 61 note synths. I paid $1600 for the Pc2x back in the early 00s....and traded it for $700 credit towards the Kronos a few years ago. So, I paid LESS than a grand to play it for a decade or so....just another way to look at the financial end of thing.
