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Post by gouge on Oct 19, 2015 19:21:15 GMT -6
I use a fully modified creation audio labs ghost with their upspec power supply. gotta say I like it very much. the preamps are fine and so are the eq's. I use the eq fairly regular at mixdown. I still prefer the outboard preamps. one reason is because I tend to record direct to the converters. the ghost is half normalled to the patch so it gets used for monitoring or mixing into the converters as needed. at mixdown everything goes through the ghost and I use it as one would expect a console to be used. there is not much around that has the features of the ghost and that becomes apparent during mixdown. the modified board I would say is clean.
prior to the ghost I had a spirit. there is a lot of confusion with the spirit because they had several versions. the one I had was the spirit studio which was the precursor to the ghost. it sounded warm and had nearly as much flexibility as the ghost. it was also a split design.
there is also the non studio versions of the spirit which are meant for live work or monitor mixes and aren't split designs.
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Post by ericn on Oct 19, 2015 20:30:26 GMT -6
I wouldn't buy a Ghost If it wasn't local, or had a crate! That frame isn't designed for transport.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 19, 2015 20:34:03 GMT -6
That 32 channel in Nashville is a whale of a deal!!thats what a fully modified 24 channel goes for from Creation Audio, which is btw the same mods mine has.
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Post by rocinante on Oct 19, 2015 22:14:05 GMT -6
Im working my way; albeit slowly, on fully modding my ghost cause so far so good with my master and 4 channels. I'm definitely satisfied thus far. Ive heard a few times from very trusted sources how great the fully modded ghost sounds. For now though its a good damn board but really mostly I use it for workflow and routing. I actually use an mc mix in front of it setting all the ghost faders flat so i can recall sessions easier. The eq is definitely usuable on the ghost though. I've debated building some totally badass carnhill saturated ba283 or helios 22113 based summing mixer and some kind of switch system routing thingamabob just to make my life a little easier, but I like having a console too much I guess. Using the car comparison if a Neve is a Ferrari than the ghost is a Trans am. Mod it and you'll get a mustang. It certainly isnt a Masseratti but it'll still get you laid every so often and at least its not a hyundai. Ive heard some pretty nice things about the X2 which was surprising. Definitely a few Grammy's mixed on them. I almost got one once but the state it was in was unknown and the horror stories I read of bad models made me too hesitant. Anyone use a digital board still? Are Tascam dm3200 or yammie o2r96 still considerable? Ive seen a few dm2000s still up there in price, still good stuff? Damn Ramsas digital boards went up.
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Post by rocinante on Oct 19, 2015 22:33:50 GMT -6
I wouldn't buy a Ghost If it wasn't local, or had a crate! That frame isn't designed for transport. I actually picked mine up from an npr in a university where they been using it to teach an audio engineering 101 course of some kind. It had actually been thoroughly cleaned often (as was part of the class?) and was one of the last models made. I had it crated and freighted from AZ to here in Mpls. Wasnt cheap by any means but when the shipping dudes showed up then brought it down to the studio and I opened the crate up I knew it was worth the expense. And that it definitely was not designed for transport.
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Post by svart on Oct 19, 2015 22:40:58 GMT -6
They said it's "neve quality" and "beat" an SSL! It's a deal! /sarcasm
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Post by swurveman on Oct 20, 2015 8:49:22 GMT -6
That 32 channel in Nashville is a whale of a deal!!thats what a fully modified 24 channel goes for from Creation Audio, which is btw the same mods mine has. It looks to me like it's got a "been on the road" look. Or, are these just old consoles and that beat up look is par for the course? BTW- If you don't mind Cowboy: How long are those mods good for until you have to revisit them?
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Post by Guitar on Oct 20, 2015 17:37:17 GMT -6
My humble submission is that a console is really golden bright for tracking operations. No latency, immediate muting, gain, and minor tweak controls. If we face reality the PC and MAC computers have basically replaced the console for mixing. The operator being the ruler of the machine to produce the required results and and all. But I also see the appeal of a limited and homogenous sonic palette and some of my analog mixes have indeed sounded better than some of my pure digital mixes of the same songs.
"Recall" really is the grim reaper in this situation. Are you good enough to nail it on the first mix? This is not a light point.
My humble suggestion is that you look for a small "mixer" for your tracking duties that might also work for your sometimes analog mixing or summing needs. From a low to high price point maybe something like Mackie > Midas > Toft / API / Aurora Audio. In a small studio like mine, space is a major concern so some of these larger desks are out of the question. In my personal rig I have a couple 1202 and a DIY summing mixer that go up to 24 channels. Along with the computer, I am never left wanting for channels in any possible combination of analog or digital mixing situations.
But by all means if you have space and funding, a bigger console seems like a pretty appealing purchase. Especially if it's got good preamps and mix bus.
My point is though, you can break off a smaller piece of the pie for less money and in a smaller form factor if you want or need to. Go as big as you need. There's a lot of room for living between a 12 channel Mackie and a 96 channel SSL. It's a tasty pie though and I would recommend a piece. The computer and your rack gear has got your back for the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 13:42:44 GMT -6
I'd go Toft if I had to get a console in that price range, but at that price you can probably get yourself a nicer summing mixer from Pheonix/Rascal and some killer outboard and have a more recallable workflow with pieces you're not going to feel the need to upgrade.
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Post by ragan on Oct 23, 2015 10:56:21 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Oct 23, 2015 11:40:49 GMT -6
Just buy that thing, if you got the cash jump on it !
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Post by ragan on Oct 23, 2015 11:42:42 GMT -6
Just buy that thing, if you got the cash jump on it ! I don't. Part of me wishes I did though. It's a little unclear what exactly it needs to be "running on all cylinders". I don't have the dough or the time or know how to dig into it but it's a pretty cool find for somebody.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Oct 23, 2015 12:32:03 GMT -6
Every harrison I've seen for sale is from people who 'planned to restore it.' From what I gather, they can be a challenge to get up and running (and maintained).
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Post by ragan on Oct 23, 2015 12:50:06 GMT -6
Every harrison I've seen for sale is from people who 'planned to restore it.' From what I gather, they can be a challenge to get up and running (and maintained). Good point and my thought exactly.
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Post by ericn on Oct 23, 2015 20:50:47 GMT -6
Every harrison I've seen for sale is from people who 'planned to restore it.' From what I gather, they can be a challenge to get up and running (and maintained). Most give up whn they get the $500 quote for manual and schematics. Other wise no different than any other of the same vintage. But those docs are for their very console coppied by a human.
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Post by schmalzy on Oct 29, 2015 14:07:30 GMT -6
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