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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 15, 2015 5:29:41 GMT -6
I can think of a lot of things that I would spend $4,500.00+ on that would do a lot more to my mixes than one preamp. That being said, everybody has their own gear love. So, if you've got the jones go for it! Edit: I didn't see that the last one closed at $2400. Now were talking. Will be fun to see the final price. I wonder how you can make a profit spending that much on gear. Pharrel Williams made $2400 on 8 million downloads of his hit "Happy". Seems if you do spend that much it's a gamble you might not make it all back. Your right. I don't think anyone makes it back with music. Ever. Music is free. But the equity is in the unit itself. They never or will ever go down in price. Always up as the clock tics. I've never lost a nickel on vintage gear but I have made money with it. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 15, 2015 5:34:05 GMT -6
From those that prefer it in situations, my understanding is that the 1081 circuit is leaner than the 1084 or 1073, which makes it better for certain types of vocals (pop, R&B) and potentially less enhancing for others. Yeah the 1081's I had where lush. Sounds like a halo is placed around the signal. Hard to explain but recognizable when you hear it. Never heard anything close to it in a class A circuit. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 15, 2015 8:54:59 GMT -6
I wonder how you can make a profit spending that much on gear. Pharrel Williams made $2400 on 8 million downloads of his hit "Happy". Seems if you do spend that much it's a gamble you might not make it all back. Your right. I don't think anyone makes it back with music. Ever. Music is free. But the equity is in the unit itself. They never or will ever go down in price. Always up as the clock tics. I've never lost a nickel on vintage gear but I have made money with it. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is still money to be made in music. Every form of media still pays the same as it always has, ie, performance royalties for radio, TV and film. There are still hundreds of thousands and even millions available in performance royalties if you have a hit song. The only thing that has been devastated is the mechanicals - the sales of physical copies. That has mostly affected the publishing industry, as there is no money in album cuts. They are much less willing to invest in a writer's career because there are less opportunities for them to recoup. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Aug 15, 2015 9:31:27 GMT -6
With this economic reality, it makes sense to cut the overhead as much as possible. If I were involved in current commercial music production, I would get the cheapest stuff that is passable since the audience has now been dumbed down to accept low fi audio productions. Anything more spent on this stuff will only be money out of your pocket.
When someone like Williams gets $2400 for 8 million downloads, the cost of that production was probably far more than the money made on it from streaming.
I like to go broke as much as anyone else, I just don't want to do it faster than everyone else.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 15, 2015 9:57:44 GMT -6
all revenue streams(no pun 8) said and done, I'd bet the farm that Pharrell/his owners made no less than $5 million off that tune, probably closer to $10 million
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Post by swurveman on Aug 15, 2015 13:12:49 GMT -6
With this economic reality, it makes sense to cut the overhead as much as possible. If I were involved in current commercial music production, I would get the cheapest stuff that is passable since the audience has now been dumbed down to accept low fi audio productions. "Happy" was recorded at Circle House Studios in Miami, which according to PMT Audio has a Neve 5088 for tracking and according to SSL has a Duende for mixing. There's not a lot of information about the studio, which is privately owned, but I'd be surprised that "Happy" wasn't tracked with the finest microphones and outboard hardware available. That being said, maybe they will be going out of business soon.... Lots of heavy hitters in the Pop world going in and out of that studio over the years.  |
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Post by popmann on Aug 15, 2015 14:16:35 GMT -6
"do you know how many pounds of fish you'd have to catch to recoup that bass boat?"
#QuestionsNeverAsked
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 15, 2015 16:19:50 GMT -6
Your right. I don't think anyone makes it back with music. Ever. Music is free. But the equity is in the unit itself. They never or will ever go down in price. Always up as the clock tics. I've never lost a nickel on vintage gear but I have made money with it. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is still money to be made in music. Every form of media still pays the same as it always has, ie, performance royalties for radio, TV and film. There are still hundreds of thousands and even millions available in performance royalties if you have a hit song. The only thing that has been devastated is the mechanicals - the sales of physical copies. That has mostly affected the publishing industry, as there is no money in album cuts. They are much less willing to invest in a writer's career because there are less opportunities for them to recoup. You're right of coarse. My sweeping statement of "no money" should have been clarified. When I think of making money on music, my mind goes back to the days of Alan Jackson selling a zillion albums and everyone who had a hand in the record making a lot of money. Because people actually BOUGHT it. A physical thing (the record). So the selling of physical copies is what I should have said. |
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Post by Ward on Aug 15, 2015 16:48:31 GMT -6
All 10-series preamps had the same class-a 1073 preamp... Or at least some bozo named Neve said that. |
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 15, 2015 17:07:05 GMT -6
"Happy" was recorded at Circle House Studios in Miami, which according to PMT Audio has a Neve 5088 for tracking and according to SSL has a Duende for mixing. There's not a lot of information about the studio, which is privately owned, but I'd be surprised that "Happy" wasn't tracked with the finest microphones and outboard hardware available. That being said, maybe they will be going out of business soon.... Lots of heavy hitters in the Pop world going in and out of that studio over the years. ...Circle House Studio (Circle House Village) is a multi-studio complex owned by the reggae-band Inner Circle, and it was built up primarily on the dividends from their tune "Bad Boys", the theme-song of one of the most syndicated TV shows of all time, "Cops"...along with Criteria/Hit Factory, it is one of the premier studio venues in Miami...major-league studio, no doubt... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 15, 2015 18:52:48 GMT -6
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Post by yotonic on Aug 15, 2015 20:56:11 GMT -6
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 16, 2015 9:39:01 GMT -6
2600 is a good price. Stereo AMS units go for 8K. This is a real Neve. Can't imagine why the buyer backed out really. |
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Post by yotonic on Aug 16, 2015 9:46:41 GMT -6
My exact thoughts. The last 2 buyers reportedly backed out. I'd grab that thing in a second for $2600.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 16, 2015 10:11:12 GMT -6
That would make me nervous. Used BAE units go for more than that.
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Post by tasteliketape on Aug 16, 2015 11:26:06 GMT -6
It's on there now at 1625.00
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Post by wiz on Aug 16, 2015 16:30:07 GMT -6
is it feasible, the seller didn't sell... you know, didn't get what he wanted so cancelled the transaction?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by yotonic on Aug 16, 2015 18:22:52 GMT -6
Boy it would be nice to see the price of these things come back to earth.
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Post by ericn on Aug 16, 2015 18:29:47 GMT -6
is it feasible, the seller didn't sell... you know, didn't get what he wanted so cancelled the transaction? cheers Wiz Technically if he wants a certain amount he needs to set a reserve, if a couple of bidders complain he would get banned. He probably is ending it early for outside offers that don't come to a close. |
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Post by yotonic on Aug 16, 2015 20:51:06 GMT -6
it went cheap.
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Post by category5 on Aug 17, 2015 11:32:30 GMT -6
Damn! That's a good price for that preamp assuming it's in perfect operating condition. Did you get it Herbie?
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 17, 2015 12:24:22 GMT -6
Damn! That's a good price for that preamp assuming it's in perfect operating condition. Did you get it Herbie? even if there was something wrong with it, thats pretty nice price, their are a zillion schemo's out there on em, and you can find NOS parts all day long for a simple fix(depending of course) |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 17, 2015 13:46:21 GMT -6
Wow...paint me surprised...
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Post by category5 on Aug 17, 2015 18:38:50 GMT -6
Damn! That's a good price for that preamp assuming it's in perfect operating condition. Did you get it Herbie? even if there was something wrong with it, thats pretty nice price, their are a zillion schemo's out there on em, and you can find NOS parts all day long for a simple fix(depending of course) My guess is he re-lists it and goes for more. That went too cheap, IMO. Good quality clones do it for me, but the original is mighty sexy. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 17, 2015 19:34:30 GMT -6
Nope. Let this one pass. Probably should have jumped on it..
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