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Post by Guitar on Jul 2, 2020 6:20:55 GMT -6
I know why they default to slow. Pianos are latent. It takes some mental adjustment, but it can feel a lot more real and I don't hit as hard once I lean into it. The problem is--if you have any systemic latency, it feels weird and stupid ADDED to that... Interesting. I just wonder why those particular pianos (the three Chocolate Audio I tried) are so much slower than all the other pianos I have. I'm talking like a 17 ms delay or something. I didn't have that problem with my other instruments. But at least they have a provision for tweaking it!
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 4, 2020 21:23:43 GMT -6
Pianoteq and Waves’ Grand Rhapsody Piano are all over my Christmas Album.
I have never heard anything like the Fazioli F308 piano I sang with at AUPAC years ago. It s like no piano I had ever heard. Just incredible. I love VIs, but...
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Post by seawell on Jul 5, 2020 11:22:16 GMT -6
I finally broke down and bought the Spitfire Audio Hans Zimmer Piano. I've been using all the imperfect samples pianos for years but the HZ library is giving me much more flexibility. I'm very happy with it!
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Post by Guitar on Jul 5, 2020 11:35:35 GMT -6
I finally broke down and bought the Spitfire Audio Hans Zimmer Piano. I've been using all the imperfect samples pianos for years but the HZ library is giving me much more flexibility. I'm very happy with it! What does it do that the other ones don't do? I've been listening to Hans Zimmer Inception soundtrack a lot lately, for no good reason other than to try to hear what's going on there.
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Post by seawell on Jul 5, 2020 12:00:57 GMT -6
I finally broke down and bought the Spitfire Audio Hans Zimmer Piano. I've been using all the imperfect samples pianos for years but the HZ library is giving me much more flexibility. I'm very happy with it! What does it do that the other ones don't do? I've been listening to Hans Zimmer Inception soundtrack a lot lately, for no good reason other than to try to hear what's going on there. For example with the imperfect samples I would have a track that was too bright/harsh through the steinway, too dark/muffled through the Fazioli. The HZ has so many more mic choices that I'm able to find the perfect blend. In addition to that the super soft patches are really nice and a much different and more detailed feel than just dragging the velocity down a bunch on the midi notes. The boom and crack knobs in the easy tweaks section are really cool too. Turning the boom up can get you into felt territory. I wish it weren't so expensive but I'm working on my wife's album now which is all piano instrumental music so the cost was more easily justified to the Mrs. than some others have been
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Post by Guitar on Jul 5, 2020 12:38:30 GMT -6
What does it do that the other ones don't do? I've been listening to Hans Zimmer Inception soundtrack a lot lately, for no good reason other than to try to hear what's going on there. For example with the imperfect samples I would have a track that was too bright/harsh through the steinway, too dark/muffled through the Fazioli. The HZ has so many more mic choices that I'm able to find the perfect blend. In addition to that the super soft patches are really nice and a much different and more detailed feel than just dragging the velocity down a bunch on the midi notes. The boom and crack knobs in the easy tweaks section are really cool too. Turning the boom up can get you into felt territory. I wish it weren't so expensive but I'm working on my wife's album now which is all piano instrumental music so the cost was more easily justified to the Mrs. than some others have been Cool! Good luck with the album, haha, post it here when you're done! I was noticing the "superior" qualities of some of the Spitfire stuff, so I'm not surprised that the expensive ones have that quality. I just got the entire LABS thing for free and my reaction was sort of what the heck, why is this free? For example their drum set, which is just one tiny part of the library, sounds better than many "expensive" software drum kits I have heard. The way they design the interface and what those controls do seems kind of unique. It's not just basic mechanical stuff like pitch, volume, delay etc. I kind of like the way the cram it into a smaller set of big macro controls, they seem to work. So yeah Spitfire got my attention too. They have some good tutorial videos for free also, this woman Homay just broke down a track and it helped me a lot.
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Post by seawell on Jul 6, 2020 12:56:41 GMT -6
For example with the imperfect samples I would have a track that was too bright/harsh through the steinway, too dark/muffled through the Fazioli. The HZ has so many more mic choices that I'm able to find the perfect blend. In addition to that the super soft patches are really nice and a much different and more detailed feel than just dragging the velocity down a bunch on the midi notes. The boom and crack knobs in the easy tweaks section are really cool too. Turning the boom up can get you into felt territory. I wish it weren't so expensive but I'm working on my wife's album now which is all piano instrumental music so the cost was more easily justified to the Mrs. than some others have been Cool! Good luck with the album, haha, post it here when you're done! I was noticing the "superior" qualities of some of the Spitfire stuff, so I'm not surprised that the expensive ones have that quality. I just got the entire LABS thing for free and my reaction was sort of what the heck, why is this free? For example their drum set, which is just one tiny part of the library, sounds better than many "expensive" software drum kits I have heard. The way they design the interface and what those controls do seems kind of unique. It's not just basic mechanical stuff like pitch, volume, delay etc. I kind of like the way the cram it into a smaller set of big macro controls, they seem to work. So yeah Spitfire got my attention too. They have some good tutorial videos for free also, this woman Homay just broke down a track and it helped me a lot. Thank you! I'll be glad to share some of it once it's done. I discovered Spitfire through the Olafur Arnalds Composer Toolkit. I'm a big fan of his work and that library was the first Spitfire product I picked up. You're right about the labs, they really are great! I didn't pay them much attention at first but have found them to be very useful. If anyone here is looking for a different, darker/more moody piano check out the Spitfire Originals Felt Piano. It is only $29 and is a nice option to have when you need something not as pretty as the grand piano stuff.
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Post by Ward on Jul 6, 2020 17:02:52 GMT -6
Most jazz pianists I know say Ivory is the tits!
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Post by delcampo on Jul 8, 2020 10:41:24 GMT -6
I was just playing Imperfect Samples Fazioli Grand and it was just gorgeous. Also currently looking at the Sound Dust Ships Piano as it's only 35 euros and seems to sound great. Curious what everyone else is thinking in 2020. I have Kontakt now so I am "in the market" of sampled instruments. For anyone interested in off the beaten path, slightly Tom Waits dodgy etc... As described here, one can mix the Ships with the Spitfire felt and it's not an expensive solution. I also use & like the Imperfect piano stuff. Fazioli & Braunschweig.
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