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Post by keymod on Jan 25, 2016 4:16:12 GMT -6
So now with support for controllers, how long before they release their own? Is a Harrison controller still in the works?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 5:17:05 GMT -6
Yes. It is, but according to the Harrison people it is still in a very early state. They just want to make the software great before concentrating on the controller. They were still in the evaluation of suitable controller chips the last time i heard of it. Actually, the Mixbus team are just a few people, who do some awesome work but have to concentrate on single goals at the time obviously.... But i am pretty sure it will come. And i guess it will come after the Mixbus 3 software reaches final state and some people get very curious and ready to pry the controller out of Harrisons hands...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 15:57:55 GMT -6
@smallbutfine does Melodyne 4 work in the new version? If so I would never have to leave mixbus Mixbus 3.0.3146 64bit + Melodyne essential 4.0.2.002 vst Win 8.1 works. Just corrected a note in the voice track of a female singer...
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Post by formatcyes on Jan 26, 2016 19:30:54 GMT -6
@smallbutfine does Melodyne 4 work in the new version? If so I would never have to leave mixbus Mixbus 3.0.3146 64bit + Melodyne essential 4.0.2.002 vst Win 8.1 works. Just corrected a note in the voice track of a female singer... Great news just have to chase down 3.0.3146 Thanks
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Post by formatcyes on Jan 27, 2016 20:38:11 GMT -6
Got my hands on 3.0.3 OSX melodyne shows up but it does not work will still have to tune up in logic and mix in mixbus for now I love the sound of this DAW and it is taking giant steps forward so I am sure they will get it sorted, happy to wait.
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Post by ericn on Jan 27, 2016 21:31:18 GMT -6
At NAMM the guys from Harrison seam to be the most motivated of the DAW developers. They actually understand what their customers want, the Yamaha/ Cubase crew were great , but the Harrison guys were awesome!
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Post by keymod on Jan 28, 2016 9:49:28 GMT -6
I'm dreaming of a Radar Studio machine with the latest Mixbus version installed.
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 28, 2016 10:36:08 GMT -6
Is anyone recording into mixbus or just editing? all I hear about is importing and mixing
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Post by formatcyes on Jan 28, 2016 14:29:02 GMT -6
Is anyone recording into mixbus or just editing? all I hear about is importing and mixing First up not a pro. I edit in mixbus but have to take vocals out for tuning. Its ok and a lot better than it use to be really depends on how much editing you need to do if you are doing a lot of deep edits taking it out would be the go. It works very well recording it to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 15:25:52 GMT -6
With the last installed version of Mixbus, i started with content creation right inside this DAW,i.e. i have 3 instances of Jamstix 3 - one puts out MIDI for Addictive Drums 2, one for Session Drummer 3 and one with Jamstix' own drum lib. So i have JS3 -> AD2 - JS3 -> SD3 - JS3 as stereo channels (I use presets and sum outputs from the drummachines until now, but plan to route channels for individual drums, too. Will give a nice no. of channels for the project.) Three times Jamstix, so i don't have to fiddle with drum maps inside Jamstix anymore, no menu stuff. Now i *bypass* each softsynth except the 2 or 1 in use / complete active sets later...muting doesn't do the trick, the synths eat processing power still. Now i have plenty of room to be creative and record live while sound experimenting and turning settings in Jamstix. Normally i record 2 tracks, the active MIDI and the active audio tracks. I route each sum/drumset out to a different bus, where i touch up sound, too. When i am due with rhythm experimenting and sounddesign, i have audio and midi tracks recorded, often i set marker while doing different things and recording, so later editing is easier. This way, the drums go through a complete console emulation in the end. I edit, i choose what to keep, if i like the channel sounds, i just export the clip from the strip, with the accompanied midi track clip. makes for a cleaner sound, but with EQ and dynamics and possibly effects i want to use. If i go for full sound, i export the master out, too. There i have the drums going through the busses with bus effects, filters, tape sat. and dynamics, and after that thru the master section. I can tweak all gain stages until i like the sound, use channel, bus and master eqs/filters/dyn/tape etc...# I can also use dynamics in stages. It is pure fun to go for cleaner up to vintage sound, with sharp transient or smashed busses, changing the dynamics type on channels and busses, use different tape saturation points in busses and master bux, all with excellent sound options, just like, who might have thought that, a console. Sometimes i throw in spares effects like the klanghelm, a stereo touchup and similar toos, but more often some analysis tools. I guess this counts as "recording", but i plan to use it also on vocals and "real" instruments in future. Right now, i still use Sonar for that, but i will see, how stable 3.1 is for me and switch, if i feel it's alright... So far, sometimes i had some heavy processing load, if this counts as obstacle, but, well, it's because i am processing heavily. Nothing wrong so far. All my exports go right to "double" wave format files, which is it's native floating point format i assume. Perfect for later mixing, mastering, whatever. Full resolution up to the final premaster conversion. Ahm, i guess one can read that i am having fun with it, right? I don't do this for a living, so i am absolutely allowed to have fun with it, i guess. :-)
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Post by tasteliketape on Feb 8, 2016 16:53:04 GMT -6
Just received the update in email
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 19:57:16 GMT -6
Yeah. Just firing it up the first time. Wow! Cool! The Nomad Factory BusDriver issue is gone! Loads my previously unloadable project file. I had little hope this could be fixed because VST standard had been carefully implemented and chances were low that the issue could be fixed between the last interim and 3.1, according to Ben. Who btw. makes awesome support - timely, friendly, to the point. (very appreciated) But somehow they did it - fixed. Great. The BusDriver plugin really is a nice Mixbus enhancement to bring some other classic compressor flavour and tube saturation. This and the klanghelm may be my 2 go-to comps besides the Harrison dynamics. Man - they listen to their customers closely. Just great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:17:34 GMT -6
Ah - my cheer was a bit too early. One project loads now, another one still not. But gives hope that part of the issue has been fixed. While the question might be, if the issue is not in BusDriver? I will try Ben's suggestion to use jBridge to encapsulate plugins i might have troubles with as i do with 32bit plugins.
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Post by formatcyes on Feb 10, 2016 4:49:57 GMT -6
Mixbus 3.1, OSX, melodyne working great thanks Harrison will use logic for midi editing everything else mixbus swweeeeet.
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 16, 2016 4:25:05 GMT -6
Can someone please tell me definitively what the deal is with Mixbus plugin delay compensation? I've done tons of searching online and over at the Mixbus forum and cannot find a consistent answer.
Does Mixbus calculate delay comp on 3rd party plugs or only their own? Is it for all sends/returns or just the 4 group busses. I'm really liking the sound and workflow of this DAW right now but if it's going to counteract the workflow by making me calculate my own delay comp then I'm going to give up on it and stick with Logic for mixing. Thanks!
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Post by formatcyes on Feb 16, 2016 5:33:02 GMT -6
I have been doing a bit of testing its simple enough just plug your output to an input and record. See how much slip as you get adding plugin's I haven't found one that causes trouble yet so mixbus must have some delay compensation working. BTW its calibrate audio is not that accurate you have to manually adjust it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 5:51:56 GMT -6
AFAIK Mixbus uses read-ahead latency compensation on plugins. This is also the reason why you can't route back from a bus to a track (with the exception, that a route from master to track is allowed for bounce). According to Ben, since routing can also be automated, the latency compensation calculation becomes impossible in Mixbus the moment you route back on tracks. Master-to-track is a useful exception because bounces are used by many in their workflow. Ardour documentation is more about latency compensation overall, including system latency, VI latency... I did not notice any problem with high latency plugins yet, so i think it's working ... I know different DAWs handle latency compensation for plugins differently. Some e.g. rely on the self-reported latency of a plugin, some do it's own measurement on this, because not all plugin developers implement this properly or report a wrong latency ... but i don't know how Mixbus is handling this - as i don't do from most other DAWs....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 9:21:43 GMT -6
Here is an interesting (technically more detailed) discussion about latency compensation in Ardour. Seems that the latency compensation code has already been implemented in 2006 in months of work. We know how essential this is for phase coherent mixing, and, IMHO, the exceptional quality of the mix results would not be possible if this would represent a problem in Mixbus. I am pretty sure that developers at Harrison are aware of this. Harrison has a long experience in digital console programming and it would be a shame if there would be a serious problem in erroneous or omitted latency compensation that lead to phase problems in the mix... community.ardour.org/node/761
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 13:21:39 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 13:59:32 GMT -6
And while we are at it... Visit Robin Gareus' x42 plugin page and get the freebies, too! The equalizer is a 4-band with spectrum analyzer. I just tested it, and it seems pretty good compared to the other more rudimentary LV2 filter plugins i tried before - a keeper for surgical things, available for all OSes incl. Linux. x42-plugins.com/x42/
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Post by odyssey76 on Mar 5, 2016 14:15:55 GMT -6
@smallbutfine and formatcyes - I missed your responses the first time through, thanks for the info! Are either of you using hardware at mix down with Mixbus? I was having issues with delay compensation using hardware. I'd ping the send/return and it would work but if I had it in cycle playback it would get delayed as soon as it started the passage over again. A bit quirky but I really like it anyway so I'll have to download the update, I'm a bit behind the eight ball. Maybe some of the quirkiness will go away. Also, since you only get 4 busses, how are you setting them up. I know you can create a stereo aux but I like using the busses. I was thinking 1 - vocals (including backing) 2 - drums and bass 3 - guitars/keys 4 - either fx or other instruments that are in the arrangement.
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Post by formatcyes on Mar 5, 2016 14:43:10 GMT -6
@smallbutfine and formatcyes - I missed your responses the first time through, thanks for the info! Are either of you using hardware at mix down with Mixbus? I was having issues with delay compensation using hardware. I'd ping the send/return and it would work but if I had it in cycle playback it would get delayed as soon as it started the passage over again. A bit quirky but I really like it anyway so I'll have to download the update, I'm a bit behind the eight ball. Maybe some of the quirkiness will go away. Also, since you only get 4 busses, how are you setting them up. I know you can create a stereo aux but I like using the busses. I was thinking 1 - vocals (including backing) 2 - drums and bass 3 - guitars/keys 4 - either fx or other instruments that are in the arrangement. You have to manually adjust the delay compensation Its easy to do as you can keep the adjustment window open while you tweek it. Go window then audio/midi setup. Loop back and adjust loop again untill its perfect. I don't use external hardware I just don't want any difference when tracking. You get 8 busses while in mixer window left hand side scroll down and tick 5 buss to 8 I use my busses for reverbs and effects only but I am not a pro so probably doing the opposite is best
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Post by odyssey76 on Mar 5, 2016 19:17:30 GMT -6
@smallbutfine and formatcyes - I missed your responses the first time through, thanks for the info! Are either of you using hardware at mix down with Mixbus? I was having issues with delay compensation using hardware. I'd ping the send/return and it would work but if I had it in cycle playback it would get delayed as soon as it started the passage over again. A bit quirky but I really like it anyway so I'll have to download the update, I'm a bit behind the eight ball. Maybe some of the quirkiness will go away. Also, since you only get 4 busses, how are you setting them up. I know you can create a stereo aux but I like using the busses. I was thinking 1 - vocals (including backing) 2 - drums and bass 3 - guitars/keys 4 - either fx or other instruments that are in the arrangement. You have to manually adjust the delay compensation Its easy to do as you can keep the adjustment window open while you tweek it. Go window then audio/midi setup. Loop back and adjust loop again untill its perfect. I don't use external hardware I just don't want any difference when tracking. You get 8 busses while in mixer window left hand side scroll down and tick 5 buss to 8 I use my busses for reverbs and effects only but I am not a pro so probably doing the opposite is best Great tips formatcyes. I'll give these a try tomorrow and thanks for the info!
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Post by keymod on Mar 13, 2016 11:41:51 GMT -6
Is it possible to install Mixbus on a USB drive in order to use it on different computers?
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Post by winetree on Mar 13, 2016 13:28:49 GMT -6
Is it possible to install Mixbus on a USB drive in order to use it on different computers? Yes. You have to download the exe install file to the USB drive and then install the program in the other computer.
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