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Post by wiz on Jul 11, 2015 18:05:41 GMT -6
Who's to say Harrison's Digital Board sounds like their analog boards? That's all I'm saying. If they do, then why in the heck would you pay for the analog board. It's cheap enough that I might try it, though. Maybe I'll be a convert. It dose not sound like their analog board, it sounds like their digital boards! The Harrison digital boards though sound the most like analog boards of any of the digital mixing systems. The reason is you have a company that has built some great sounding analog boards that understands the fact that the way to make a great sounding digital board is to not try to emulate analog, instead they realize if you go into to digital trying to do what digital can do best low and behold it sounds pretty good and well more like analog than those who are trying to make bits sound like resistors caps opamps and transformers! Try it you'll like it! I put this with Stiegers Stuff and Warm as great sounding bargains. Plus with some great conversion that has that Tape like quality , Burl, 2192 or Radar one might find in the box livable! you're killing me ericn8) cheers Wiz
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Post by jeromemason on Jul 11, 2015 18:25:22 GMT -6
Well, each channel has the 32 series eq on it, for me that's my fav eq on guitars and when I bought the plugin through UAD it was over 100 bux. I can tell you that this is not a simple "this daw is better sounding that this daw." I think the debate of DAW's today is in the mixing and summing engine, where this is more about the flow of signal through the daw channels, and then to the mixbus. I tried to use this a couple of years ago, and when I did get a mix loaded into it I could tell a major difference, and I didn't have to work nearly as hard when I was "mixing." Now, what turned me off was the editing and the bugs. The Harrison guys will tell you if you call them up that a lot of folks were just using Mixbus as a summing mixer, like you would an analog one. I'm sure they were doing this because they were having those same issues I was. But, there's no debating, this does actually sound better than any DAW I've ever used. I've briefly opened this version up and messed around and the editing is much easier, and the workflow has vastly improved. If I can get the feature of locking protools to this and using it that way then I will definitely be using it from here on out. I might even get used to it enough to go ahead and do all my DAW work in it, but for the price, it's really hard not to pick this up. If you only use it for a summing stage, you'll be glad you paid $79 for it.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 12, 2015 10:01:31 GMT -6
I guess I'll just have to try a mix with it - to see if it "sounds" better...because it would cause a major workflow slowdown. And I'll admit...I'm somewhat un-interested because the whole "this daw sounds better than this one" seems like such hyperbole. I already use Pro Tools, Cubase and Logic and have had great mixes in all of them...I'm just leery in believing all of a sudden Harrison has found the magic bullet. Maybe its not too much the sound, taste dependend, but from the Video the Workflow seems to be more like on the console. I never was a fan of opening plug in windows, and I always asked myslef why there was not something layed out like MB. I still not in it because I am a bit afraid to learn a new DAW. Let is know how hard it was,mor if MB is pretty easy to learn!?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 10:21:44 GMT -6
I guess it depends how much you are settled in your previous DAW program, if you are a guy who works himself fastly into new concepts, and last but not least what your current DAW is. Coming from Sonar, it wasn't too hard for me to find my way into it, i rarely have to take a look into the manual. This may be different if you come from other DAWs. E.g., i tried to get familiar with Cubase again a few years ago, which i also used as my first DAW ever, cannot even remember which version.....and i dropped the idea completely after a very frustrating hour or so...while others find it somehow intuitive, i couldn't wrap my mind around it. I think it is pretty individual, how hard you find the switch to a specific new DAW and workflow. I find the learning curve very shallow, but others may have a completely different opinion about this...
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 12, 2015 11:03:01 GMT -6
I've learned three DAW's...why not 4? lol
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Post by ericn on Jul 12, 2015 11:55:03 GMT -6
I've learned three DAW's...why not 4? lol Think of the days when they were far less stable and I had to know them all !
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 12, 2015 15:30:51 GMT -6
man I am surprised this has gone on for 4 pages I tried this about a year ago and I thought why bother using a new daw, workflow and just stuck with pro tools and UA.
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Post by formatcyes on Jul 12, 2015 16:40:54 GMT -6
Working great with linux mint this is the first linux daw I have run that just works out of the box. Needs more testing but seems super stable.
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Post by formatcyes on Jul 13, 2015 1:20:06 GMT -6
Spent the day with this DAW in OSX. I love it love the work flow and the whole "virtual" console idea works great with all my AU plugin's, found it really intuitive and it sounds fantastic. Tomorrow linux gets a run with my Xair. Happy days..
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Post by keymod on Jul 13, 2015 4:21:34 GMT -6
The only potential problem I see with this is that it will impart the "Harrison" sound on whatever you run through it. Wouldn't bother me at all, but some people might not feel it matches their sonic goals. I am looking forward to learning more about it and utilizing it. I tried getting my Faderport to work in a test project, but had no luck. Is there a tab somewhere for controller choices?
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Post by winetree on Jul 13, 2015 11:52:02 GMT -6
"The only potential problem I see with this is that it will impart the "Harrison" sound on whatever you run through it."
With all the hit records and movies that have run through Harrisons consoles, we should all be that fortunate to have that sound.
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Post by M57 on Jul 13, 2015 12:48:16 GMT -6
The only potential problem I see with this is that it will impart the "Harrison" sound on whatever you run through it. Wouldn't bother me at all, but some people might not feel it matches their sonic goals. I am looking forward to learning more about it and utilizing it. I tried getting my Faderport to work in a test project, but had no luck. Is there a tab somewhere for controller choices? There's a bundle file that you need to download.. E.g. support.presonus.com/entries/53848710-Faderport-How-do-I-set-up-my-Faderport-in-Logic-64-bit-
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Post by keymod on Jul 13, 2015 13:14:18 GMT -6
"The only potential problem I see with this is that it will impart the "Harrison" sound on whatever you run through it." With all the hit records and movies that have run through Harrisons consoles, we should all be that fortunate to have that sound. Well, I did say that wouldn't bother me, but you know how some people can get.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 13, 2015 14:49:22 GMT -6
I do try to find a demo download, but there is none?
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Post by formatcyes on Jul 13, 2015 15:27:36 GMT -6
I do try to find a demo download, but there is none? They don't do demo's, weird but it's the way they have chosen to run their business.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 15:28:57 GMT -6
Obviously, as of their FAQ now, there is no demo version of Mixbus 3, which is somehow understandable as this is still a niche DAW, there is just a license file and no online or dongle copy protection (which is btw. pretty nice, hate these systems...). I had the demo experience, because i use a linux system, where i could install it in the package manager in Version 2....
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Post by formatcyes on Jul 13, 2015 15:35:33 GMT -6
I don't think it's going to stay niche for long V2 felt like a beta V3 feels like they have arrived. Not having a demo may hurt them a little but its their business and I think its all up from here.
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Post by mrholmes on Jul 13, 2015 15:42:43 GMT -6
I do try to find a demo download, but there is none? They don't do demo's, weird but it's the way they have chosen to run their business. Google tells me there was one for version 2.... Anyway will ask a friend to try.....
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Post by odyssey76 on Jul 13, 2015 16:20:55 GMT -6
@smallbutfine - you're a bad influence dude! Just bought this because the price is silly and I'll have to admit that I'm quite curious about the sound. I learned Logic X this year after switching from Pro Tools so why not keep going? Hopefully the console workflow and sound keep putting PT further back in the rear view mirror.
Thx for posting those vids, I'll be checking them out tonight......
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Post by formatcyes on Jul 13, 2015 22:48:38 GMT -6
Testing it with linux (mint) and my behringer Xair18 works great this is a fantastic setup I can now recorded 16 channels with a cheap linux laptop transfer the file straight to my studio minimac osx for mix down sweeeeeet. It was all plug and play and very stable ran it for over 4 hours without a single issue.. Thanks Harrison.
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Post by keymod on Jul 14, 2015 15:36:45 GMT -6
I want to give a thumb's up to Harrison Support. I just had an issue resolved in almost instantaneous fashion. Thanks Ben!
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Post by mikec on Jul 14, 2015 16:00:35 GMT -6
I spend a good amount of time with this over the weekend and really like it. I don't use a lot of midi so as long as my EZ drummer worked, which it did without any issues, I am happy. The work flow and the use of the mix busses just seems to be easier on my brain. It also worked with my Raven Mti. I could control everything I tried with it including adjusting plugins like Valhalla. I only recorded some guitars and vocals trying to get familiar with it, but everything worked great. The only crash I had was when I was renaming the mix busses for some reason. It was nice being able to get a quick mix that sounded good with out using any external plugins other than some reverb and delay.
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Post by benloftis on Jul 20, 2015 12:07:22 GMT -6
Hi Mikec, I'm glad your'e enjoying Mixbus!
The crash when right-clicking on mix-buses has been fixed. It will be available in the next update.
Best, -Ben at Harrison
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 20, 2015 12:10:38 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Jul 20, 2015 18:43:22 GMT -6
Hi Mikec, I'm glad your'e enjoying Mixbus! The crash when right-clicking on mix-buses has been fixed. It will be available in the next update. Best, -Ben at Harrison Hey Ben Glad to have you representing the Harrison Clan! How about a box like the SSL Sigma BUT with a MIX BUS like control software !!! Harrison style sort of umm like Just a modular mixer section of the Analog Engine for the Big live board? Pretty Please! note this is what happens when nobody is paying me and I haven't slept well in a couple of weeks
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