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Post by jeromemason on May 9, 2015 14:32:24 GMT -6
I've had Altiverb before and tried all the others, for $150 I like this the best. Being able to place the source in the IR's space is similar to what Oceanway does, and with the M7's IR's this really helps get depth. Try this one out if you're shopping for an IR reverb. hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/iq-reverb/ |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 9, 2015 21:23:18 GMT -6
Thanks Jerome. Looks good.
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Post by jeromemason on May 9, 2015 21:54:44 GMT -6
cowboycoalminer this could be even better than Oceanway..... I was floored by how it allows positioning and how realistic it sounds. Also in the viewer how you can see exactly what your verb is doing. Hell, me and Randy messed around with a plate that comes stock with it for 2 minutes and it was knocking on UAD EMT's door, actually it was busting through it. So, you gave to me the A.O.M limiter. I give to you, the Hofa 
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Post by Randge on May 10, 2015 14:30:29 GMT -6
I bought the Hofa verb today (Sunday) through Audio Deluxe. They don't have an automatic download of their plugs like Plugin Alliance or others do, so I get to wait till they feel like giving me the license. Not a good start for Audio Deluxe with me.
R
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Post by mrholmes on May 10, 2015 15:24:04 GMT -6
Before buying it: Keep in mind that all internal editing of an IR reduces the qualty of the reverb.
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Post by wiz on May 10, 2015 17:26:12 GMT -6
I just gave the demo a quick try...
the postion control is interesting, though it doesn't allow the dry signal to get all the way to the left and right.. it ends up a little over 2/3rds eg.. if you are trying to do LCR type mixing.
I used to do something similar, back when PCs didn't have buckets of horsepower..
I would instantiate a true stereo IR on a bus, and send instruments to it post pan, and control the depth by the mix control of the IR plug. That way you could "Place" instruments in the same virtual space, which was handy as I was working in a small dry room. Worked cool.
This is the first thing I tried with HOFA, as I used to really like that sort of result.
Just checking, that I aint doing something stupid here... can one of you guys just check using the plug, for a LCR type mix with the POS control...?
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Randge on May 11, 2015 8:24:56 GMT -6
Before buying it: Keep in mind that all internal editing of an IR reduces the qualty of the reverb. This verb sounds great, so any negative math is certainly getting by my ears. I have 16 different verbs already and this one holds it own with them all. |
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Post by jeromemason on May 11, 2015 9:00:14 GMT -6
Before buying it: Keep in mind that all internal editing of an IR reduces the qualty of the reverb. I think you would hear more problems if you tried to manually do what this plugin is doing. To push things to the back of a reverb I used to have to eq the source and do funky delay tricks etc. etc., with this I don't have to do anything and it definitely sounds better and wayyyy more realistic. The plate I loaded was what really got me. I've heard that UAD and a real plate more than a few times, and editing around with that plate made it sound just like them, maybe not the real deal plate, that's tough, but for sure the tail and tone was like a very expensive emulation. I'm not sure if you own this or have tried it yet or not, but maybe you should check it out and mess with it, I honestly cannot hear any degradation at all of the IR when it's being edited. It's just like I've got an external eq and I'm dialing in a drum room or a chamber in the studio, that's the feeling I get with it. |
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Post by odyssey76 on May 11, 2015 10:00:46 GMT -6
I've had Altiverb before and tried all the others, for $150 I like this the best. Being able to place the source in the IR's space is similar to what Oceanway does, and with the M7's IR's this really helps get depth. Try this one out if you're shopping for an IR reverb. hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/iq-reverb/ - where are you getting your M7 IR's? I was just looking for Bricasti impulses last night. I was checking out Samplicity. wiz - have you tried any Bricasti IR's in Space Designer? Sorry for the minor derail here but I was just looking into this. |
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Post by jeromemason on May 11, 2015 10:27:40 GMT -6
I've had Altiverb before and tried all the others, for $150 I like this the best. Being able to place the source in the IR's space is similar to what Oceanway does, and with the M7's IR's this really helps get depth. Try this one out if you're shopping for an IR reverb. hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/iq-reverb/ - where are you getting your M7 IR's? I was just looking for Bricasti impulses last night. I was checking out Samplicity. wiz - have you tried any Bricasti IR's in Space Designer? Sorry for the minor derail here but I was just looking into this. True M7 is the best ones I've used |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 11, 2015 16:23:17 GMT -6
jeromemason - where are you getting your M7 IR's? I was just looking for Bricasti impulses last night. I was checking out Samplicity. wiz - have you tried any Bricasti IR's in Space Designer? Sorry for the minor derail here but I was just looking into this. True M7 is the best ones I've used True M7 is left and right. How do I load both responses into the IR? |
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Post by jeromemason on May 11, 2015 16:46:50 GMT -6
Double click the left it will ask to load the right.
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Post by odyssey76 on May 11, 2015 17:05:01 GMT -6
True M7 is the best ones I've used True M7 is left and right. How do I load both responses into the IR? I'm going to pick this up thanks jeromemason. Herbie - be curious to hear your thoughts on this vs. Ocean Way? |
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Post by wiz on May 11, 2015 17:09:12 GMT -6
I've had Altiverb before and tried all the others, for $150 I like this the best. Being able to place the source in the IR's space is similar to what Oceanway does, and with the M7's IR's this really helps get depth. Try this one out if you're shopping for an IR reverb. hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/iq-reverb/ - where are you getting your M7 IR's? I was just looking for Bricasti impulses last night. I was checking out Samplicity. wiz - have you tried any Bricasti IR's in Space Designer? Sorry for the minor derail here but I was just looking into this. I have tried them... I own a bunch.... .I don't even know If i kept them. I sort of made the move away from convolution reverbs a couple three years back. I used to use 480L IRs a lot. Samplicity maybe? I also had Briscasti Impulses as well, and I remember a huge problem trying to load quad files into Space Designer and at the time I was on PC, i ended up using Voxengos Convo Reverb Host. I have been satisified with reverb for the last couple of years, with Relab and Valhalla Vintage.... But I must admit the Ocean Way Plug in pricked up my ears, as its sort of similar in idea to how I used to work. But jumping back onto the UAD bandwagon isn't somewhere I want to go... So this HOFA IR, might be cool... price is okay... I will have a play with it during the demo period.. cheers Wiz |
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Post by lpedrum on May 13, 2015 8:39:31 GMT -6
I've downloaded the Hofa demo and I'm trying it on a couple of mixes. I do like what I'm hearing, but I find reverbs can be deceptive. I didn't quite "get" Exponential Reverb when I first bought it. But now I understand and love what it does with small chambers especially. I think my main reason for actually purchasing the Hofa would be to upgrade my plate reverb plug in. I currently use Vahalla Room most of the time for that, but I like what I'm hearing in the Hofa. I can't A/B it with and actual plate here in my home studio. So after a few days of use, what's the consensus from those here on how the Hofa plate sounds measure up?
Also...I downloaded the demo directly from the Hofa site. Any suggestions or pitfalls I should be aware of if I buy from the site Randge mentioned? For a plugin this is "real money" so I want to make sure I get things right if I buy. Thanks folks.
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Post by Randge on May 14, 2015 7:32:57 GMT -6
Just don't buy it on a weekend, as you won't get it until the following business day.
R
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Post by Randge on May 14, 2015 7:36:47 GMT -6
This is a different beast than the Ocean Way. The ability to place an instrument in the mix where you want it dimensionally is slick. The OW is very nice and creates wood and breath around the instrument of choice, but you'll have to work to put it where you want it in a mix perspective.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 14, 2015 18:37:22 GMT -6
Honestly, I didn't really think the Ocean Way offered anything different from what I could get from a few other verbs.
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Post by donr on May 14, 2015 21:26:42 GMT -6
Honestly, I didn't really think the Ocean Way offered anything different from what I could get from a few other verbs. Ocean Way isn't really a 'verb. It's a room you can put stuff into and hear with their mics. I used it on Wiz' drums on my mix of "Fool Me Once." I didn't use it as reverb either, I put it across the drum bus and used the -aligned- setting with a C12 omni mic. Presto, different vibe on the kit. If you compare to the other mixes in that thread, it doesn't sound like Wiz' studio anymore. It's a color, and a nice color. I want more plugs like this, for those of us without great rooms and gear. www.dropbox.com/s/mmw7ofynhb4yrii/Foolme%20DonR%20mix7%20copy.mp3?dl=0 |
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Post by Randge on May 15, 2015 8:54:32 GMT -6
To me, any ambience creating plug is a reverb. It is a room reverb. I use the OW plug with up to 6 different verbs creating the sound stage I envision for the song. The OW plug creates air and dimension around the singer or instrument, making it feel more 3D in the mix. I am really enjoying this Hofa verb as it allows me to layer front to back atmosphere quickly where most of the other verbs I have are pretty linear by comparison without a lot of creative panning and delay combinations to get the front to back that I am looking for.
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Post by donr on May 15, 2015 9:06:38 GMT -6
Cool. Is that a buy recommendation, Randy?
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Post by Randge on May 15, 2015 17:22:14 GMT -6
Yes!
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Post by jeromemason on May 15, 2015 22:30:19 GMT -6
The more I use this plugin the more I can't help but get giddy about how theatric my mixes are going to sound. This is probably going to change the way I start a mix, the EFX including verbs and rooms usually came somewhere near the middle to end of the mix. Now, this will be the first thing I start to dime in before even balancing.
The engine this plugin uses to process the IR's is special as well, it almost feels like you're using a hardware unit or something. The M7 responses in this are so close to an M7 it's pretty incredible that this only cost's 150 bux. I don't know where I discovered this, but the lord was guiding my fingers on the touchpad that night brothers and sisters.
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Post by wiz on May 17, 2015 4:25:45 GMT -6
I used it to mix a tune today... It's certainly cool. Loading 3rd party responses into it was the most successful experience I have had with a convo reverb
The M7 responses you are are referring to are they the samplicity ones?
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on May 17, 2015 5:52:41 GMT -6
Hey Randge, I think you don't use UA so haven't tried its OWS; right ? |
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