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Post by peteje on Apr 7, 2015 12:02:30 GMT -6
I know it is early in this release, but looking for some input... Can anybody comment on these sonically when it comes to clarity / transparency in a light ratio (2:1) on clean vocal? As something more like a mastering touch on a vocal? Hoping to get depth and clarity and fullness in a light mode without too much harmonic or fuzzy coloration. Clearly these are fantastic for color and crushing parallel compression hugeness (I listened to the drum examples on realgear online - awesome), but wonder about a less colored use. For some reference have been using massey CT5 in plug in world and the JLM LA 500 in the analogue and have used just about all different models of the analogue classics over the years. Johnkennrobschnapf |
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Post by Randge on Apr 7, 2015 12:51:55 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2015 15:46:08 GMT -6
Yeah - I think they're pretty damn clean with the 1731's. They do add some color...but we're not talking tube-ness color. Anything you put in the chain is gonna add flavor unless it's designed to not. IMHO, these can add less of a sonic footprint than a 1176.
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Post by peteje on Apr 7, 2015 16:51:40 GMT -6
Thanks. I have 1731s and some ML918 (from whistle rock) that I am going to try when I pick up a couple of these FC526s.
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Post by peteje on Apr 7, 2015 23:25:24 GMT -6
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Post by robschnapf on May 25, 2015 20:54:46 GMT -6
i never tried it on 2:1 so i cant say.
but i can say that however i used it whether that was pounding on it or using it
more politely it always sounded good.
i loved what it added to the track.
i want some...
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2015 21:21:28 GMT -6
It's a total lockdown on Bass without hearing it work. 8:1...Beauty...
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 2, 2015 22:21:21 GMT -6
The Litz wire VP28 and FC526 has been CRUSHING vocal tracking at my place lately. Beautiful, full bodied, consistent sonically and dynamically through the frequency range and just immense amounts of headroom.
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Post by jayson on Sept 3, 2015 5:51:36 GMT -6
I've been wondering the opposite; how dirty do they get? Is this a good unit for doing some downright abusive, deliberately audible compression? Can they be aggressive and low-fi if that's where you want to drive them?
I'm sure it's inevitable that I'm going to build a bunch of these, but so far I have to confess I haven't heard enough scuttlebutt on what they actually sound like to know what to expect. So far my experience with the CAPI gear leads me to think that clean and pristine isn't likely to be too much of a problem; Jeff seems to place a pretty high priority on sonic transparency in the design phase. Figuratively speaking, I'm guessing it's like an 1176 with a college degree?
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Post by robschnapf on Sept 3, 2015 8:47:06 GMT -6
I wouldn't call them lofi but they aren't transparent either.
They can definitely be aggressive.
But they don't do the FET crunch.
I think they are really excellent and in general I'm not a fan of transparent.
I wanna hear my money at work....
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Post by Guitar on Sept 3, 2015 9:06:31 GMT -6
Just subscribing to the thread. I'm very interested in this one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 3, 2015 14:38:20 GMT -6
I've been wondering the opposite; how dirty do they get? Is this a good unit for doing some downright abusive, deliberately audible compression? Can they be aggressive and low-fi if that's where you want to drive them? I'm sure it's inevitable that I'm going to build a bunch of these, but so far I have to confess I haven't heard enough scuttlebutt on what they actually sound like to know what to expect. So far my experience with the CAPI gear leads me to think that clean and pristine isn't likely to be too much of a problem; Jeff seems to place a pretty high priority on sonic transparency in the design phase. Figuratively speaking, I'm guessing it's like an 1176 with a college degree? Excellent description. I've often said its what the 1176 was "supposed" to be. That's why I consider it more of a tracking compressor. Maybe I'll try to destroy something. What would you like to hear? Drums, bass? |
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Post by jayson on Sept 3, 2015 19:56:05 GMT -6
Awesome, Thanks! By all means take your pick, I'll take whatever you got!
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 4, 2015 15:50:01 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2015 13:31:18 GMT -6
Hey - jsteiger, you mentioned a mod to the input of the unit? |
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Post by dandeurloo on Nov 24, 2015 13:55:40 GMT -6
Between these and the Great River PWM 501's I really feel great about having most all of my bases covered for tracking. The beauty is, I also have a lot of other stuff for when I need something different but, these are getting a lot of use.
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Post by wiz on Nov 24, 2015 15:00:09 GMT -6
Its really great!
really great!
in the same quality compressor as my STAs and LA2A
sensational value
cheers
Wiz
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 24, 2015 15:27:50 GMT -6
Hey - jsteiger , you mentioned a mod to the input of the unit? Do tell! I'm gonna tackle a pair over the holiday. |
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Post by jsteiger on Nov 24, 2015 19:09:11 GMT -6
Hey - jsteiger , you mentioned a mod to the input of the unit? Indeed I did. It essentially limits the range of the input pot to appx 40dB so it cannot be turned "off" or all of the way down. This will make it a little less "touchy". FYI, the same mod can be done to the output pot, if someone is so inclined. Also, increasing the R value a little will decrease the range of the pot even more (for all you constant tweakers out there like dandeurloo  ) Pics are worth 1000 words:   |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2015 19:12:02 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 24, 2015 21:19:56 GMT -6
Hey - jsteiger , you mentioned a mod to the input of the unit? Indeed I did. It essentially limits the range of the input pot to appx 40dB so it cannot be turned "off" or all of the way down. This will make it a little less "touchy". FYI, the same mod can be done to the output pot, if someone is so inclined. Also, increasing the R value a little will decrease the range of the pot even more (for all you constant tweakers out there like dandeurloo ) Pics are worth 1000 words: Cool Jeff, man that looks really simple! I will definitely be doing this, generally if i use compression at all while tracking I like to just barely tickle with a very light ratio, and a low threshold that keeps the track in compression the whole time..., just to dense things up a bit heading into mix down round of compression, the 526 sounds bananas great, the 2;1 setting was a genius move imo, and now with this mod it should give me all the control that i need, I expect turning it into what could be the ultimate tracking comp? If it does what i think it will, I'll be picking up quite a few more of these. I will try my damndest to get some samples up with the AD4898's and Scotts 1731's over the holiday weekend, they are both quite impressive, i'm sorry to all for lagging so bad on that... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2015 21:28:41 GMT -6
So just gives the input knob a wider "throw" huh...? Couldn't you just turn the signal going into the unit down a little?
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Post by jsteiger on Nov 24, 2015 21:37:27 GMT -6
So just gives the input knob a wider "throw" huh...? Couldn't you just turn the signal going into the unit down a little? It actually gives the input pot a more narrow working range. Some may find that padding down the signal driving the FC526 will also help get them in a better position on the input pot. It only takes changing 2 R's and 2 C's if you want to permanently pad the input down a little more before the 2520 receiver.  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 24, 2015 21:42:57 GMT -6
So just gives the input knob a wider "throw" huh...? Couldn't you just turn the signal going into the unit down a little? It actually gives the input pot a more narrow working range. Some may find that padding down the signal driving the FC526 will also help get them in a better position on the input pot. It only takes changing 2 R's and 2 C's if you want to permanently pad the input down a little more before the 2520 receiver. a "more narrow range" represented by wider throw on the input knob.... right? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2015 22:11:16 GMT -6
That's what I was thinking, Tony...
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